Titantic Claims 5 more?

The Navy is reporting they recorded the sub breaking up pretty soon after it launched so if you are going to get into trouble down there and not be rescued then they went out the best possibly way and probably didn't even know anything was wrong. Most likely they went from excited to be there to being dead almost instantaneously.
 
They are saying the chance of finding remains is zero percent.

I guess it would be pretty hard to find the remains of people instantly turned into soup two miles under water.
They’re already turds by now
 
The waivers signed by the tourists are pretty comprehensive and hard to beat. The only ways to void them would be material misrepresentation or omission and fraudulent inducement.

@jjc2009 please chime in here.

Nothing is ironclad. The question is whether there are any assets to go after.
 
Really the funniest (in an ironic sense) of taking this trip is I'm pretty sure you don't actually see the Titanic but rather see a broadcast of it on a screen.
 
There's no way I'm the only one who doesn't find James Cameron's media blitz a little sickening. It's a gigantic "I told you so" the second they confirmed it was an implosion.

What's his latest trademark phrase he's using all over CNN? "macabre charade" or some such shit. pfft
 
The waivers signed by the tourists are pretty comprehensive and hard to beat. The only ways to void them would be material misrepresentation or omission and fraudulent inducement.

@jjc2009 please chime in here.

Well the attachment only showed page 1 of 3 so I don’t have the whole document.

If the article is accurate and they waive liability for Oceans Gate’s “negligence” then it does not expressly waive claims for gross negligence, or recklessness. Under the circumstances, they can easily be facing gross negligence or recklessness claims. An attorney should have no problem alleging facts to support those claims.

I do not know if there is a choice of law provision in there, but under maritime law, generally speaking the law of the flag country of the vessel controls. This was a Bahamian company and I’m assuming the vessel was flagged there so Bahamian law should govern, not US law. I couldn’t begin to tell you anything about Bahamian law but I am assuming it tends to be more favorable for ship owners.

There is a reason none of our major cruise lines are US flagged ships, because US maritime laws are very plaintiff friendly.

TLDR: it sounds like the waivers are not as “ironclad” as some believe and I expect this will end with settlements and not summary judgment for Oceans Gate.
 
There's no way I'm the only one who doesn't find James Cameron's media blitz a little sickening. It's a gigantic "I told you so" the second they confirmed it was an implosion.

What's his latest trademark phrase he's using all over CNN? "macabre charade" or some such shit. pfft

He is sort of rubbing it in.
 
Well the attachment only showed page 1 of 3 so I don’t have the whole document.

If the article is accurate and they waive liability for Oceans Gate’s “negligence” then it does not expressly waive claims for gross negligence, or recklessness. Under the circumstances, they can easily be facing gross negligence or recklessness claims. An attorney should have no problem alleging facts to support those claims.

I do not know if there is a choice of law provision in there, but under maritime law, generally speaking the law of the flag country of the vessel controls. This was a Bahamian company and I’m assuming the vessel was flagged there so Bahamian law should govern, not US law. I couldn’t begin to tell you anything about Bahamian law but I am assuming it tends to be more favorable for ship owners.

There is a reason none of our major cruise lines are US flagged ships, because US maritime laws are very plaintiff friendly.

TLDR: it sounds like the waivers are not as “ironclad” as some believe and I expect this will end with settlements and not summary judgment for Oceans Gate.

The agreement is in a scrollable window. The last paragraph says laws of theBahamas shall apply.
 
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