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ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
Good point.



So, hey, I was going to tag you, anyway, 'cause I have a question you may or may not be able to answer.
Do you have any thoughts about heat pumps?

I'm looking at getting my furnace replaced, all my ductowrk redone, and possible installing central air. One of the companies from which I'm getting estimates mentioned a heat pump, or a combo furnace and heat pump, with the heat pump serving as my AC.

The furnace has to be redone eventually, it's ancient, and so does all the ductwork, since it still has the lovely asbestos tape, so there's no way around all that (and I'm not trying to get around it).
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Depends on how much you use it I guess. Do you have a natural gas furnace right now?
 
Peter Gozintite said:
Depends on how much you use it I guess. Do you have a natural gas furnace right now?
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Yes, I have a gas furnace.
The suggestion of a traditional furnace (so I didn't have to switch to electric for that), then the heat pump for AC instead of a traditional AC sounded intriguing, but I figured I'd get your opinion, if you had one, first, before I did a bunch of research.
 
gobigred said:
Unfortunately you have to watch the Royals and Twins though.
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I watched the Royals play the Nats in KC. his bigger problem would have to be being surrounded by shitbag Minnesotans, not the product on the field…
 
ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) said:
Yes, I have a gas furnace.
The suggestion of a traditional furnace (so I didn't have to switch to electric for that), then the heat pump for AC instead of a traditional AC sounded intriguing, but I figured I'd get your opinion, if you had one, first, before I did a bunch of research.
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You are better off with a gas furnace and central ac unit. Heat pumps don't have as broad of a temperature differential, and its cheaper to heat with gas, so you get a break on power in the winter. I don't know how much you need heat, but I assume it gets cold there in the winter. Heat pumps should only be used where gas is not an option, or you have solar electricity and don't worry about getting some savings in the winter.

Temperature differential refers to the supply, to return, air temp differences. So the air going into the system at the air filter, compared to the temps at the vents where the conditioned air comes out. A heat pump typically is about 12 to 16 degrees different. So 80 degrees air comes out at between 68 to 64, typically.

Central AC unit should be more like 15 to 20 degrees. So 80 degrees comes out 65 to 60. Cools the house faster/more efficiently, and in the winter the gas is much cheaper. But you are in California, so when they ban natural gas in 2.75 years, you might be screwed.
 
Electrical service companies here are pushing heat pumps really hard due to the environmental wackos' pressure. On the other hand we have tons of dams producing electricity, but a lot of them are slated to be demolished in order to save a few salmon...
 
Peter Gozintite said:
You are better off with a gas furnace and central ac unit. Heat pumps don't have as broad of a temperature differential, and its cheaper to heat with gas, so you get a break on power in the winter. I don't know how much you need heat, but I assume it gets cold there in the winter. Heat pumps should only be used where gas is not an option, or you have solar electricity and don't worry about getting some savings in the winter.

Temperature differential refers to the supply, to return, air temp differences. So the air going into the system at the air filter, compared to the temps at the vents where the conditioned air comes out. A heat pump typically is about 12 to 16 degrees different. So 80 degrees air comes out at between 68 to 64, typically.

Central AC unit should be more like 15 to 20 degrees. So 80 degrees comes out 65 to 60. Cools the house faster/more efficiently, and in the winter the gas is much cheaper. But you are in California, so when they ban natural gas in 2.75 years, you might be screwed.
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Hahaha. Yeah, I figured I'd want to stick with a traditional furnace as far as heating goes, primarily because electricity is more expensive than gas, but I wasn't sure about the heat pump for an AC. I thought maybe since I wouldn't use the AC that much, it may be worth it to go with that instead of a Central Air unit.

Grassy ass, Pedro.
 
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