tOfficial PAC-12 Thread

duckboy33 said:
My guess is they are hearing that they need more inventory and they don’t have to pay those two schools a full share. I doubt they would be adding if the media partners weren’t telling them to do it. Nobody is suggesting that those two will add hundreds of millions to the media contract. That’s a WT posting tactic
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All of it is going to be moot when ASU & Arizona bolt for the Big 12 when your commissioner misses his deadline for a deal. Won’t take long for other schools to follow and the PAC will be done.

When that happens I’ll be looking for you start a thread titled “I Was Wrong” the B1G wasn’t looking at national expansion and Oregon will never join the B1G.
 
Wild Turkey said:
All of it is going to be moot when ASU & Arizona bolt for the Big 12 when your commissioner misses his deadline for a deal. Won’t take long for other schools to follow and the PAC will be done.

When that happens I’ll be looking for you start a thread titled “I Was Wrong” the B1G wasn’t looking at national expansion and Oregon will never join the B1G.
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Sure and when the existing PAC members sign a media contract, I look forward to you admitting you were wrong (although I’m confident you will just move the goal posts)
 
duckboy33 said:
Sure and when the existing PAC members sign a media contract, I look forward to you admitting you were wrong (although I’m confident you will just move the goal posts)
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If you guys get a deal for 40 million a school I’m fine with eating crow. I just don’t see anyway it’s going to happen because if it was it would have.

ESPN, FOX, CBS and NBC seem to be off the board having their marquee lineups pretty much set. At this point you guys are throwing Hail Marys trying to get a streaming deal but have fan bases that don't view college football as a religion.

PAC after dark is only worth so much and easily transferred to another conference.

Right now without USC and UCLA your bigger names have to play OOC games to get ratings anyone is going to pay attention to. No one is watching Cal vs SMU.
 
Wild Turkey said:
If you guys get a deal for 40 million a school I’m fine with eating crow. I just don’t see anyway it’s going to happen because if it was it would have.

ESPN, FOX, CBS and NBC seem to be off the board having their marquee lineups pretty much set. At this point you guys are throwing Hail Marys trying to get a streaming deal but have fan bases that don't view college football as a religion.

PAC after dark is only worth so much and easily transferred to another conference.

Right now without USC and UCLA your bigger names have to play OOC games to get ratings anyone is going to pay attention to. No one is watching Cal vs SMU.
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Nobody here is predicting 40M a year. I didn’t think you would move the goal posts within 2 minutes. My guess is the TV deal is in the ball park as the Big 12s and every existing PAC member will sign it.

Let’s stick with your original argument. You believe the PAC 12 will fold this media cycle and all the teams will join the Big 12. Let’s see who is right
 
TheReal_NU said:
Sounds like the AD saying the coach has my full support.
Right before they fire him.

I’ve heard that a lot in the last 20 years.
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^^ THIS ^^

Tell the media rights companies what they need to hear to at least get a contract presented for review.

I imagine 30% (or more) had their fingers crossed behind their backs.
 
Red_Alert said:
^^ THIS ^^

Tell the media rights companies what they need to hear to at least get a contract presented for review.

I imagine 30% (or more) had their fingers crossed behind their backs.
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The two most important ones seem to be Udub and Oregon.. and unless the BiG comes calling for them soon.. I don't see why the four corners bail out the PAC with them in it
 
FWIW Brett McMurphy is saying that SMU and SDSU to the PAC 12.. they have a deal in place already that will be announced within the next 2 weeks. GOR will only last til the BiG media contract is up.
 
it appears part of the problem is that everyone wants the best game of the week and apparently has no faith there will be more than 1 game in a week that is attractive.
Part of the pac's issues come from not knowing who will be good. so it would be hard to plan ahead and have multiple games a week with good games. you can only have Oregon Washington Utah Oregon State play each other so many times. plus you dont know when in a given year they will take a dive.
 
Wild Turkey said:
All of it is going to be moot when ASU & Arizona bolt for the Big 12 when your commissioner misses his deadline for a deal. Won’t take long for other schools to follow and the PAC will be done.

When that happens I’ll be looking for you start a thread titled “I Was Wrong” the B1G wasn’t looking at national expansion and Oregon will never join the B1G.
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ASU isn’t going to bolt until Oregon and Washington get an official invite from the B1G. Tempe has so much ridiculous power within the conference administratively and them joining the Big 12 they lose all the power because if they bolt it is only because the Big 12 wants Arizona’s basketball program.
 
OlyDuck said:
it appears part of the problem is that everyone wants the best game of the week and apparently has no faith there will be more than 1 game in a week that is attractive.
Part of the pac's issues come from not knowing who will be good. so it would be hard to plan ahead and have multiple games a week with good games. you can only have Oregon Washington Utah Oregon State play each other so many times. plus you dont know when in a given year they will take a dive.
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There is a way to get around that. Only release the OOC games then the rivalry games then let the network choose the rest of the schedule if they pony up. Kind of like my Amazon idea, let your partner have skin in the conference beyond just production and distribution.
 
we made so many other related threads this one hasnt been used since February. so bump for the season
 
Also here is my post week 1 Pac rankings not related to AP or coaches. just how i would rank the teams based on week 1 (0)

1. Colorado (beat P5 and National runner up on the road)
2. Utah (beat P5 at home)
3. Washington (10 win and division winner G5 team)
4. UCLA (G5 team that won 9 and their division)
5. Cal (G5 teams that won their division)
6. Oregon State (avg G5 team)
7. USC (2 wins vs G5 teams 1 avg 1 bad. Oregon state looked better beating the avg team)
8. Washington State (bad G5 team)
9. Stanford (bad G5 team)
10. Oregon (FCS)
11. Arizona (FCS)
12. Arizona State (FCS and struggled)
 
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duckboy33 said:
Nobody here is predicting 40M a year. I didn’t think you would move the goal posts within 2 minutes. My guess is the TV deal is in the ball park as the Big 12s and every existing PAC member will sign it.

Let’s stick with your original argument. You believe the PAC 12 will fold this media cycle and all the teams will join the Big 12. Let’s see who is right
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So technically I don’t think either of us was right.

1. PAC didn’t get a deal and all the teams are basically gone. However they didn’t all join the B12.

2. Oregon and Washington joined the B1G but at significantly reduced revenue so that skews predictions on that.

3. Neither of us would have dreamed the ACC would take Stanford, Cal and SMU.

I’m going with this as a push.
 
Wild Turkey said:
So technically I don’t think either of us was right.

1. PAC didn’t get a deal and all the teams are basically gone. However they didn’t all join the B12.

2. Oregon and Washington joined the B1G but at significantly reduced revenue so that skews predictions on that.

3. Neither of us would have dreamed the ACC would take Stanford, Cal and SMU.

I’m going with this as a push.
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i had Oregon UW and Stan in the Big Ten
4 corners to Big XIi
and Cal WSU and OSU to Mountain west
i hit on 6 so far
missed on 2
still waiting on 2
 
OlyDuck said:
i had Oregon UW and Stan in the Big Ten
4 corners to Big XIi
and Cal WSU and OSU to Mountain west
i hit on 6 so far
missed on 2
still waiting on 2
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Who did you have the B1G going in with Stanford?

3 is just odd.

Plus since Oregon and Washington went in at reduced revenue share you’re only getting credit for one.
 
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