Tough schedules in the future.

WhosYourDawggy said:
As I pointed out, it's nonsense that they SEC is protecting Bama or UGA ... the schedules were set in 2012 and haven't changed except for Covid 2020. If they go to 9 games, play everyone every 2 years, the imbalance largely goes away. It's the pods that could become imbalanced, IMO.
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I disagree with the imbalance part. The imbalance will always be there to varying degrees. No way to avoid it when conferences are large. It is a crapshoot as to which years you play which teams...especially the middling teams that happen to catch lightening in a bottle one year and totally crap the bed the other. The "always good" or "always bad" may not vary much.

I totally agree that the pods definitely have the potential to become imbalanced in the same way divisions have periodically.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
This isn't remotely true. We've known what our SEC schedule was going to be from 2012 - 2024 since 2012. It only changed in 2020 for COVID reasons. Otherwise, we will have played Bama twice in that 12 year period, exactly when we were supposed to.

Now, you can fairly criticize that we only played 8 IC games, and that resulted in us playing West teams once every 6 years. That's fair, and it appears they are going to fix that by going to 9 games and playing every other year. But no one is randomly protecting UGA or Bama ... it's been set in stone since we brought Mizzou and ATm into the conference.
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You must have missed when Missouri and Texas AM were added and funny thing, Florida and Georgia games got pushed off for like 5 years.
 
Thiefery said:
but let's be honest here, even with only 12 school conferences, it's like that as well. Only conference that isn't like that is the post 2011 Big12 conference where you play everyone and have a rematch in the CCG.

Kansas going 12-1 or so back in 2007 had a lot to do with avoiding certain schools in the south division that season. I don't think it's a coincidence that FPI had Nebraska as the odds on favorites to win the BiG West title, and that they avoid tosu.
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Pac has a pretty good balance going
Oregon plays 5 division games, USC and UCLA rotate every 2 years so a senior will have had an opportunity to see each home and away.
from 14 on Oregon has had Arizona @utah Colorado
Utah @Colorado @ASU
Colorado, @Utah ASU
@ASU, Utah Arizona
@AZ, ASU @Utah
Colorado, @ASU, Arizona
Arizona, Colorado @Utah

2020 was supposed to be @Colorado, @Arizona, ASU
and 22 will have @Arizona @colorado Utah

so in 9 years thats Arizona (4H, 3A), ASU (3H, 3A), Utah (3H, 4A) Colorado (4H, 3A)

I mean thats pretty balanced for rotating the teams and home away
 
OlyDuck said:
I mean thats pretty balanced for rotating the teams and home away
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I'll agree that is good as far as Wazzou playing in Tucson and Zona playing in Pullman...and the same for the rest of the conference.

But, that is only "balanced" in regards to frequency and location of play. It doesn't take into account the quality of teams at the time games are played. Playing USC recently is a lot different than playing USC during their up times. Same with Stanford. Unless conferences play a true round robing, unbalanced schedules will exist. No way around it.

Let's use the last year's B1G West as an example.

Illinois' crossover opponents: Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers
Iowa's crossover opponents: Indiana, Maryland, Penn State
Nebraska's crossover opponents: Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State.

That ain't close to balanced IMHO. Nebraska's was much more difficult.
 
7samurai13 said:
You must have missed when Missouri and Texas AM were added and funny thing, Florida and Georgia games got pushed off for like 5 years.
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UF and UGA 2012 - 2016 sucked for the most part, so Bama missing them wouldn’t have mattered.

That said, you are mistaken about the SEC protecting Bama, UGA, and UF. UF and Bama played regular season in 2010 and 2011 ( which is weird). The expansion happened in 2012, and Bama and UF played regular season in 2014. UGA and Bama played regular season in 2015 (a horrible loss). That’s 2 and 3 years after expansion, not 5 years and is well within a normal schedule.

So, I must have missed that because it didn’t happen.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
You don’t want to beat Mizzou every year?
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what i hated about mizzu when they were still in the Big12 conference was their graveyard of ligament tears, stadium turf. I hope they upgraded it since they switched to the SEC a decade ago
 
Thiefery said:
what i hated about mizzu when they were still in the Big12 conference was their graveyard of ligament tears, stadium turf. I hope they upgraded it since they switched to the SEC a decade ago
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They have made a lot of upgrades since they got out of that ghetto conference.
 
Deep Creek said:
I'll agree that is good as far as Wazzou playing in Tucson and Zona playing in Pullman...and the same for the rest of the conference.

But, that is only "balanced" in regards to frequency and location of play. It doesn't take into account the quality of teams at the time games are played. Playing USC recently is a lot different than playing USC during their up times. Same with Stanford. Unless conferences play a true round robing, unbalanced schedules will exist. No way around it.

Let's use the last year's B1G West as an example.

Illinois' crossover opponents: Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers
Iowa's crossover opponents: Indiana, Maryland, Penn State
Nebraska's crossover opponents: Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State.

That ain't close to balanced IMHO. Nebraska's was much more difficult.
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up and down records are to be expected it happens to everyone some more often than others.
even the elite arent immune to it. as we have been discussing fallen teams like USC, Miami, FSU, Tenn, Nebraska
Michigan 2014 Ohio state 2011 Alabama pre Saban, oklahoma pre stoops
 
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