USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

Let me see if I can help some of our non Pac friends understand the mental state of what's left of the conf.

If this was a high school prom situation:
Ducks are like the chick that keeps telling everyone they are the prettiest. Sure, they were chunky in middle school, but daddy put her through fat camp and bought her fake tits and now turns heads. The kids that transferred in have no idea they were ugly ducklings back in the day. They shouldn't be worried, but DEMAND they get top pick of the school!!!!

UW be like maybe we put on a couple of pounds, but everyone knows we will put out after. Invite will come. Sit back and let it play out.

ASU similarly has a rep and it won't matter they are under investigation for shoplifting. Their date knows a good time is coming.

Stanford be all meh, if my girls aren't with me I don't care if I go.

WSU and the beaves know they can only go if they get to go with their large friend group. No other type of invite is coming. They aren't fooling anyone into thinking they bring a good time.

Cal always though proms were stupid and bitch about them anyway. Decent chance they turn down even a good date.

Colorado has an ex that is more than good enough and they are besties with Utah that is getting a fair amount of attention after their breasts grew in. Both aren't worried.

Zona knows they are only known for their BJ's, not a full good time, but think a double date with their ASU sis is likely enough to make it work.
 
Top Cat said:
Control. Corporate warfare often overspends. Fox vs ESPN; BIG vs SEC. I don't think equal payouts is something that'll last forever either. Eventually the bigger schools will have enough leverage to bend this in their favor when there are no longer viable conferences to pillage. People will say it's about usurping the NCAA, but that's only half true, imo. Schools like Texas, Ohio State, USC, etc want more money, and to keep more of it for themselves. That's it, that's the game.

That's good if you're UVA and other relatively middling programs because you got a great shot at landing in the BIG/SEC longterm in the mega conference model we seem to be heading towards. Just a matter of when. The gravy train Purdue is enjoying now is probably not the same level, relatively, 10 years from now.

The real question is what happens to schools like Duke.
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I have no doubt unequal revenue sharing is coming. But it could be a case of be careful what you wish for. A tradional blueblood has a decade in the dumpster and then what? Does their revenue take a hit for an up and comer that has been helping said conference more competitively and financially?

Someone like Duke? It depends what the SEC and B1Gs end game is. Do they want 20 teams a pop? 22? 24? More. Its a numbers game.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I have no doubt unequal revenue sharing is coming. But it could be a case of be careful what you wish for. A tradional blueblood has a decade in the dumpster and then what? Does their revenue take a hit for an up and comer that has been helping said conference more competitively and financially?

Someone like Duke? It depends what the SEC and B1Gs end game is. Do they want 20 teams a pop? 22? 24? More. Its a numbers game.
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Nebraska gets more stories/blurbs/coverage nationally than other teams of their same record of the last 10 years. Nowhere near the level as if they were still churning out high level seasons, but not insignificant either.

The thing about blue bloods is, it takes far less time to bounce back up. Take a team like USC. Down in the dumps for quite a while now. Were still talked about more than they earned, but everyone buzzed over their coaching change and were already predicting championships. Even a small sign of success and the media would be all over it. Non blue blood teams that even had some success back in the day wouldn't get the same attention. They have to do a lot more to prove it and work up to the national coverage.

If Nebraska ever stopped tripping over their own dicks, the coverage would skyrocket rapidly.

So, the johnny come lately teams have high risks for long term profitability vs the historic programs. At least that's how I see it.
 
Wizardhawk said:
Nebraska gets more stories/blurbs/coverage nationally than other teams of their same record of the last 10 years. Nowhere near the level as if they were still churning out high level seasons, but not insignificant either.

If Nebraska ever stopped tripping over their own dicks, the coverage would skyrocket rapidly.

So, the johnny come lately teams have high risks for long term profitability vs the historic programs. At least that's how I see it.
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Wizardhawk said:
Nebraska gets more stories/blurbs/coverage nationally than other teams of their same record of the last 10 years. Nowhere near the level as if they were still churning out high level seasons, but not insignificant either.

The thing about blue bloods is, it takes far less time to bounce back up. Take a team like USC. Down in the dumps for quite a while now. Were still talked about more than they earned, but everyone buzzed over their coaching change and were already predicting championships. Even a small sign of success and the media would be all over it. Non blue blood teams that even had some success back in the day wouldn't get the same attention. They have to do a lot more to prove it and work up to the national coverage.

If Nebraska ever stopped tripping over their own dicks, the coverage would skyrocket rapidly.

So, the johnny come lately teams have high risks for long term profitability vs the historic programs. At least that's how I see it.
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I agree it’s easier for a blue blood to bounce back then to have an up and comer consistently compete and land in top 10’s. But I’d be interested to see if it did happen when unequal revenue sharing comes about will said blue blood who hasn’t carried their weight for a decade get less?? Like if unequal revenue sharing became a thing in 2025 and NU still didn’t have a winning season under Frost would NU still command the same amount as an Iowa or a Wisconsin?

IMO it could be a be careful what you wish for scenario. But you are absolutely correct in saying a blue blood can bounce back easier.
 
trojanfan12 said:
That's true. But, if while you are adding a football blue blood, you can add a basketball blue blood that has a competitive football team at the same time...Why wouldn't you?
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Why feed an extra mouth if ya don’t have to though?
I’d like to know what the money would look like with SC coming in and UCLA staying put.
If Rutgers gives ya NYC then surely SC gives ya LA without UCLA.
 
CoalTrain said:
Why feed an extra mouth if ya don’t have to though?
I’d like to know what the money would look like with SC coming in and UCLA staying put.
If Rutgers gives ya NYC then surely SC gives ya LA without UCLA.
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I'd say that the B1G wanted an even number and since ND isn't interested (at this time)... so why not UCLA? :nod:
 
ralphiewvu said:
UVA’s market is already owned by the B1G with Maryland. The B1G doesn’t own the PORTLAND, SEATTLE, OR SAN FRAN market.
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Shit tons of BIG alums in that DC market though.

That Bay Area market seems like an obvious want for the conference though. Big money there.
 
broncosmitty said:
Shit tons of BIG alums in that DC market though.

That Bay Area market seems like an obvious want for the conference though. Big money there.
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B1G already has that market via Maryland.

I agree with what You said about the west coast teams though. The B1G wants them and they should plus it gives reasonable travel partners for SC and CLA for the Olympic sports.
 
ralphiewvu said:
B1G already has that market via Maryland.

I agree with what You said about the west coast teams though. The B1G wants them and they should plus it gives reasonable travel partners for SC and CLA for the Olympic sports.
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They have part of the market.

Cal, Stanford and UDub all make sense as far as market and the level of school. But I don’t really see Oregon being a BIG level school. Nobody really cares about track.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I agree with what You said about the west coast teams though. The B1G wants them and they should plus it gives reasonable travel partners for SC and CLA for the Olympic sports.
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Yup... at least 20 B1G members seems like where it's headed (ND + 3 more west coast schools) partially due to scheduling & travel difficulties for Olympic sport events taking place Mondays thru Thursdays if the B1G only has 2 west coast members. The B1G is probably going to need more west coast travel partners.
 
broncosmitty said:
They have part of the market.

Cal, Stanford and UDub all make sense as far as market and the level of school. But I don’t really see Oregon being a BIG level school. Nobody really cares about track.
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College Park is much closer to DC then Charlottesville Is. You want to argue the NoVa area then you may have a point. But the whole reason Maryland was added was to deliver the DC market.

If the B1G is grabbing Udub and at least one of the SanFran schools they’ll grab Oregon. The Portland Market isn’t exactly small and truthfully there are only a handful of schools the B1G could grab that‘d be a better athletic addition then Oregon. Plus travel buddies for their west coast schools.
 
CorpRebel said:
I'd say that the B1G wanted an even number and since ND isn't interested (at this time)... so why not UCLA? :nod:
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I’m still gonna claim they got UCLA to make sure the SEC wouldn’t ever get into that market with em, which IS smart I suppose
 
Innermind said:
Yup... at least 20 B1G members seems like where it's headed (ND + 3 more west coast schools) partially due to scheduling & travel difficulties for Olympic sport events taking place Mondays thru Thursdays if the B1G only has 2 west coast members. The B1G is probably going to need more west coast travel partners.
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Agree 100% and they aren’t getting chumps ether. The schools mentioned are damn good academically and have ethier the history or recently Have Mattered (or both) to get into the B1G. Truthfully i don’t see the B1G stopping until at least 22 or the SEC for that Matter ether.
 
CoalTrain said:
Why feed an extra mouth if ya don’t have to though?
I’d like to know what the money would look like with SC coming in and UCLA staying put.
If Rutgers gives ya NYC then surely SC gives ya LA without UCLA.
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What I heard was that USC was the main target, but the B1G wanted 2 teams, so USC suggested UCLA, which adds a basketball blue blood and preserves that rivalry. If what @CorpRebel said about ND not being ready is right, then if ND was ready to join a conference, it likely would have been them and USC getting invited.
 
CoalTrain said:
I’m still gonna claim they got UCLA to make sure the SEC wouldn’t ever get into that market with em, which IS smart I suppose
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So they added a basketball blue blood with a competitive football team , created a reasonable travel partner for USC on the Olympic sports and took away the SECs only remaining shot at getting part of the LA market...seems like you have answered your own question.
 
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