USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

Huskers4me said:
Plenty of B1G Alums living in SoCal. Here’s why this was a genius move by Warren (something I never thought I would type) he grabbed the PAC’s biggest market, + he grabbed two big name Southern PAC teams which limits the SEC from doing so and he can move North & East from there.
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I don't think UCLA and USC or any PAC schools were on the SEC radar. We have plenty to pick from within our geographic range. CLemson, FSU, Miami, VaTech, UNC, NCSU, and even WV if so inclined. Every time we have added a team, it has been in the same state as another SEC team, or contiguous thereto.

I think this is a good move for the B1G ... if I were a Wisky fan, or a PSU fan, I'd love to go see a game in SoCal. But the travel is what bothers me. If they use some of that extra money to charter flights for the non-football sports, then I am for it. But if they are going to go on and on about the student-athlete and how much academics means, they can fuck off. This will screw up the athletes academics in a big way.

Per reports, they don't appear to be done. I am not sure it makes sense to do this and not get an entire west coast division. I am guessing they go after Cal, Stanford, Ore, and Wash. All are AAU schools, and that would give you 6 teams out west.
 
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Macho Grande said:
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Macho Grande said:
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Don't buy this ... there are conflicting reports. The PAC is going to implode anyway and you caused it B1G. Grad the other 4 on your way to a 20 or 22 team league. Nailing down the first 2 was important. But cat's out of the bag now and you can work with the others without worrying about it getting out.
 
TheDayMan said:
Firstly, yes. Secondly, does it really matter? It's gonna bring money, to the level of the Pac 12 can't survive losing it.
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Yeah, it matters. They aren't going to split a pie into smaller pieces. It's math. Either it means everyone makes more or they don't do it.

I don't know the market, but I wouldn't think it's a huge college market, but I guess it's big enough.
 
ericd7633 said:
Oregon, UW, ND and Stanford to the B1G.
ASU, AZ, Colorado and Utah to the B12.

Cal, Oregon State, and Washington State to the Mtn West.

P12 is dead.
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Can't see the SEC standing pat if all that is goin on in the BIG (and :noidea: it may well happen like ya say).

Wonder how much venom that ACC GOR really has since ESPN has the SEC and ACC under wraps :think:
 
Deep Creek said:
You mean there are some teams in the big conferences that live off the money generated by the big names?

From what I've been told, it is okay for them to do so. They were "charter" members so they are safe.
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My bad. I thought you were just talking about any team that doesn't carry their weight.
 
ericd7633 said:
Oregon, Washington, ND and Stanford will round out the B1G 20.
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"During last year's round of realignment, when Oklahoma and Texas announced plans to join the SEC, the Irish held strong to independence but hinted at a few key caveats. The first is that Notre Dame needs a home for its non-football sports. Currently that's the ACC (additionally, Notre Dame currently has a deal with the ACC stating that, should the school join a conference full-time, it must be the ACC)"

From ESPN - Breaking down USC and UCLA's plan to move to the Big Ten and what it means
 
Deep Creek said:
I agree. I don't think New York is either.
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Don't have time to discuss it but had an argument here with someone about what really counts in 2022 about "markets." I was convinced that instead of the "markets" which meant a lot when locking in cable numbers was important, that today it's big games. Now, USC and UCLA should add some big games, but not sure if they have the following. Looking at most watched CFB programs, USC and UCLA came in at 29th and 32nd, with UCLA at 29th, USC at 32nd. Keep in mind that any game featuring tOSU, UM, PSU will draw big. The question is whether having USC v. Purdue, or UCLA v. Minny will draw large numbers. I am not sure that will be the case.
 
They bring a nice rivalry which USC holds the lead.
But the last 10 is 5-5.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
Don't have time to discuss it but had an argument here with someone about what really counts in 2022 about "markets." I was convinced that instead of the "markets" which meant a lot when locking in cable numbers was important, that today it's big games. Now, USC and UCLA should add some big games, but not sure if they have the following. Looking at most watched CFB programs, USC and UCLA came in at 29th and 32nd, with UCLA at 29th, USC at 32nd. Keep in mind that any game featuring tOSU, UM, PSU will draw big. The question is whether having USC v. Purdue, or UCLA v. Minny will draw large numbers. I am not sure that will be the case.
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I think you are correct...and I think it has always been that way. The Texas/OU, Bama/Auburn, Ohio State/Michigan games have always drawn big numbers. Those are givens. But any of those six playing the K-States, South Carolinas and Indianas of the world still draw more than games such as K-State/Texas Tech, South Carolina/Kentucky and Indiana/Maryland. So the more big names a conference has the better the inventory overall. Same goes for OOC games. Ohio State/USC is much more attractive than Ohio State/Cal or USC/Purdue. But even the latter two are better than Cal/Purdue.
 
Deep Creek said:
I think you are correct...and I think it has always been that way. The Texas/OU, Bama/Auburn, Ohio State/Michigan games have always drawn big numbers. Those are givens. But any of those six playing the K-States, South Carolinas and Indianas of the world still draw more than games such as K-State/Texas Tech, South Carolina/Kentucky and Indiana/Maryland. So the more big names a conference has the better the inventory overall. Same goes for OOC games. Ohio State/USC is much more attractive than Ohio State/Cal or USC/Purdue. But even the latter two are better than Cal/Purdue.
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Deep Creek said:
I think you are correct...and I think it has always been that way. The Texas/OU, Bama/Auburn, Ohio State/Michigan games have always drawn big numbers. Those are givens. But any of those six playing the K-States, South Carolinas and Indianas of the world still draw more than games such as K-State/Texas Tech, South Carolina/Kentucky and Indiana/Maryland. So the more big names a conference has the better the inventory overall. Same goes for OOC games. Ohio State/USC is much more attractive than Ohio State/Cal or USC/Purdue. But even the latter two are better than Cal/Purdue.
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It used to be you just needed a team in the area, the cable company carried the conference network and you made a bunch of money. I don't think that model is the one off of which money is made today. There is a poster who kind of bitch slapped me about this a year and half ago. Maybe he will jump in.
 
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