USC and UCLA planning to leave for B10 by 2024!

Goldbug said:
I'm sick of ND's prima donna treatment. But I have to admit the ND fans were super to us the last time we played in South Bend. Very polite, good sports and respectful. The ND fans are great; it's the ND administration that grilles my cheese.
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ND administration does what's in the best interest of ND. Same thing OU did when it moved to the SEC. It is what it is. It simply hasn't made sense to join a conference, up until maybe now. ND will do what's best for them.
 
huskers1217 said:
@OregonDucks

LMAO

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Volbound1700 said:
Well for one, USC actually has posters on most Sports Message Boards. When is the last time a Miami fan made an appearance anywhere? Granted, I do run into Miami fans but they definitely don't fill their stadium unless they are a top ten team.
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I'll concede that. After all. posting requires reading and comprehension skills.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Well for one, USC actually has posters on most Sports Message Boards. When is the last time a Miami fan made an appearance anywhere? Granted, I do run into Miami fans but they definitely don't fill their stadium unless they are a top ten team.
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I haven't see the robot devil in a very long time. did he come over or is he being a pussy over on euro hoop?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
UCLA is more for the athletics as a whole and the academics, not just football.

And I don't disagree -- you could be on par with Nebraska, but I think they turned a blind eye to Nebraska, as they fit being in the midwest. I'd love to have Oregon in the B1G, but as a matter of fit, Stanford, Washington, Cal, Notre Dame are all better options.
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UCLA for Athletics as a whole? compared to Oregon's non existent athletics department? Oregon and UCLA made it just as far in Baseball as each other.
Oregon under Altman has been a constant March Madness team
same for Women under Graves. Oregon missed on potential National Championship in 2020 when they had the #2 team and 3 top 10 draft picks.
Mens golf won NC in 2016 and womens just played for it.
indoor and outdoor track and cross country all going to favor oregon
Yes historically UCLA has more titles but a lot of those over 100 start with 19 for the year they were won.

not on par with Nebraska. a bit higher. Iowa and Michigan State arent to far ahead of Oregon

Stanford and Cal wont bring the eyeballs. media market maybe bigger but if the tvs are on other channels does that matter
 
totally posted in the wrong thread earlier

calling my shot.

Oregon, Washington and Stanford to the Big 10 along with Notre Dame.

West
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Oregon
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Washington
Wisconsin

East
Indiana
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers

the rest of the Pac south goes to the Big XII putting them at 16

West
Arizona
Arizona State
Baylor
BYU
Colorado
Houston
Texas Tech
Utah

East
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma State
TCU
UCF
West Virginia

Cal, Oregon State, Washington State end up in the Mountain West
This would put the MWC at an odd number of 15 so they pursue FCS North Dakota State
Cal and Oregon State to the West Division WSU and NDS to the Mountain division
 
Can I trademark The Sloppy Seconds Conference?
 
I know it's about football, but I'd rather go to Pauley Pavilion in Westwood Village than the Coliseum in Pasadena
 
Kburjr said:
I know it's about football, but I'd rather go to Pauley Pavilion in Westwood Village than the Coliseum in Pasadena
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This is all a mess, College Football is losing its charm with so much focus on $$$$. In the long term, I see overall CFB interest declining on national scene.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Not really. SEC hype started in 2003 but really picked up in 2006. The Florida beatdown of Ohio State in 2006 really started it off. The SEC then went on to win titles until 2012. That streak included 4 different schools. To say it is all Alabama is kind of silly. Also, had Alabama not been there, other SEC schools would have been in the mix such as LSU in 2011, Florida in 2009, Georgia in 2017, etc.

It has been a while for Tennessee. The only confidence that I have as a Tennessee fan is that we can sometimes recruit like a 5-star program. We did with Butch Jones and we really weren't that far off, take 2015 where our 4 losses came down to 1-2 plays. Get a little bit of luck and we are a playoff team that year: 2015 Tennessee Football Schedule | FBSchedules.com

So there is the potential but definitely I put us on that iffy list. A lot of it has been poor administration and poor coaching. If Tennessee can figure both out, that may change.

OU and Texas are definitely a good coach away from being elite programs (similar to USC). I do think USC Trojans might struggle a little in B1G with long road trips. West Virginia has really struggled in the Big12 not having a close neighbor.

Overall, though, I think all of this is bad for College Football in general. The sport was a far better product back in the 1990s when the talent was more evenly dispersed across the nation.
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What I think you are missing is -- In these 'super conferences' -- it is impossible to have 7-8 "elite teams". The best of the best will be at the top and the rest are going to have 3, 4, 5 losses a year. That isn't elite.

You may have a team come thru with an elite QB and win a title one year, but elite means you do it all the time, not once in a while. As far as Tennessee, they have finished in the top 10 in the final rankings once since 2000. Like Nebraska, the shift in recruiting has left them way behind the elite programs. NIL may give them a shot if they find someone to buy a bunch of recruits, but if they rely on selling Tennessee over the actual elite programs right now, Tennessee isn't going to win many of those battles.

Teams like Nebraska, Tennessee, Michigan, even Notre Dame and Oklahoma -- they are fighting uphill battles. They don't have the large in state base of recruits -- For Nebraska: they have no talent in surrounding states either. For Michigan: the only state with talent around them is Ohio, where OSU gets the pick of the litter. For Tennessee -- they are surround by elite programs in the SEC and trying to take recruits away from Bama, Georgia,Clemson, etc is a losing battle. OU had a nice little pipeline in the west, but Lincoln Riley is putting an end to that and now they will be playing most of their games in the South.

Unless there is a massive population shift to the Midwest -- nothing is going to change, unless some booster decides he is going to spend his retirement funds to buy many recruiting classes for some school.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
What I think you are missing is -- In these 'super conferences' -- it is impossible to have 7-8 "elite teams". The best of the best will be at the top and the rest are going to have 3, 4, 5 losses a year. That isn't elite.

You may have a team come thru with an elite QB and win a title one year, but elite means you do it all the time, not once in a while. As far as Tennessee, they have finished in the top 10 in the final rankings once since 2000. Like Nebraska, the shift in recruiting has left them way behind the elite programs. NIL may give them a shot if they find someone to buy a bunch of recruits, but if they rely on selling Tennessee over the actual elite programs right now, Tennessee isn't going to win many of those battles.

Teams like Nebraska, Tennessee, Michigan, even Notre Dame and Oklahoma -- they are fighting uphill battles. They don't have the large in state base of recruits -- For Nebraska: they have no talent in surrounding states either. For Michigan: the only state with talent around them is Ohio, where OSU gets the pick of the litter. For Tennessee -- they are surround by elite programs in the SEC and trying to take recruits away from Bama, Georgia,Clemson, etc is a losing battle. OU had a nice little pipeline in the west, but Lincoln Riley is putting an end to that and now they will be playing most of their games in the South.

Unless there is a massive population shift to the Midwest -- nothing is going to change, unless some booster decides he is going to spend his retirement funds to buy many recruiting classes for some school.
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All that happens in the SEC is Saban retires. The Saban run is unprecedent in college football. However, the SEC has shown that when Saban is not on top, typically another SEC Program is in the running. Those recruits would be at other SEC schools if not at Alabama. You will then see more variance at the top similar to how the SEC looked from 2000-2010.

In the 1990s it was mostly Florida/Tennessee driven due to both those programs have stable systems and coaches while Auburn, Alabama (with the exception of first half of 1990s), Georgia, and LSU having poor coaching, unstable systems, etc. Things change. They don't change up in 5-6 year span because in the scheme of sports, that is a short time period. It is only 5 seasons or 5 teams to prove yourself. Look at it in a long-term trend. Long-term, the B1G just hasn't been that good over a 20-30 year span.
 
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