Volbound1700 Playoff Watch - Week 8

[duckboy33]

Doesn't that make Oregon's loss look worse? I would think Oregon needs Georgia to beat the shit out of everyone.

To be fair, one of the gameday experts thought Baylor, Aggy and Pitt would make the playoffs. Not sure they really have a good understanding of what will happen

 

[osubuckeye89]

Doesn't that make Oregon's loss look worse? I would think Oregon needs Georgia to beat the shit out of everyone.

I think the loss will be "forgiven" as long as they aren't up to UGA head to head.

They'd take Oregon whos only loss was to UGA week 1 over TCU whos 1 loss was to like West Virginia in late October for example.

and Oregon over Clemson whos 1 loss was a late season loss to some mediocre ACC team.

 

[OlyDuck]

Just to point out -- Game Day talked about teams with playoff aspirations. They went thru a handful of teams and when they were asked about Oregon's chances, they all laughed and then it was said, Oregon's only chance to make it to the CFP is if Georgia loses twice.

if i remember correctly David Pollack was the one who laughed about Oregon being a playoff contender. he also laughed and said Caleb Williams was the best transfer QB (the numbers say otherwise) and also picked UCLA over Oregon

 

[osubuckeye89]

To be fair, one of the gameday experts thought Baylor, Aggy and Pitt would make the playoffs. Not sure they really have a good understanding of what will happen

Desmond Howard lol

 

[OlyDuck]

I think the loss will be "forgiven" as long as they aren't up to UGA head to head.

They'd take Oregon whos only loss was to UGA week 1 over TCU whos 1 loss was to like West Virginia in late October for example.

and Oregon over Clemson whos 1 loss was a late season loss to some mediocre ACC team.

i asked this question after it happened. whats worse Oregons loss to top ranked UGA in week 1 or a mid season loss to mid team by 1 possession(3-8 points)

 

[Volbound1700]

I think right now you pretty much assume the SEC & B1G champs are in.

It could get messy for the other 2 spots though.

If Clemson loses I think they and the ACC are out, they haven't looked nearly sharp enough to just get thrown in with 1 loss

I think the Big 12 champ has at least 1 loss. TCUs defense will keep them from finishing undefeated.

good chance the PAC champ has 1 loss, Oregon or USC. (maybe even UCLA)

Hard to see UGA getting left out even if they lose to Tennessee don't make the SEC title game. I think the only way they are left out in that case is if Clemson and the Big 12 champ are both undefeated.

UGA probably gets put in over Tennessee with 1 loss if Tennessee lost the SEC title game to Bama. Based on benefit of the doubt. Even though Tennessee would have the H2H

I agree with pretty much most of this and the last sentence would create major controversy with Tennessee beating both Alabama and Georgia but Georgia getting the nod. You are talking 2003/2004 type controversy.

I get the vibe we are going to have some kind of controversy this year with Playoffs.

 

[Volbound1700]

Doesn't that make Oregon's loss look worse? I would think Oregon needs Georgia to beat the shit out of everyone.

I think the issue isn't the Georgia loss but Georgia getting the nod over Oregon. Georgia needs to be out of the picture for Oregon to make it. Best case for Oregon would be Georgia going either unbeaten and knocking out Alabama/Tennessee as options or Georgia having 2 losses.

 

[Deep Creek]

I think the issue isn't the Georgia loss but Georgia getting the nod over Oregon. Georgia needs to be out of the picture for Oregon to make it. Best case for Oregon would be Georgia going either unbeaten and knocking out Alabama/Tennessee as options or Georgia having 2 losses.

Got it. I took it the wrong way. I see that now.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

I think the issue isn't the Georgia loss but Georgia getting the nod over Oregon. Georgia needs to be out of the picture for Oregon to make it. Best case for Oregon would be Georgia going either unbeaten and knocking out Alabama/Tennessee as options or Georgia having 2 losses.

It's silly to compare Oregon/UGA due to the H2H. The more accurate comparison is Oregon vs other 1 loss teams

 

[osubuckeye89]

I agree with pretty much most of this and the last sentence would create major controversy with Tennessee beating both Alabama and Georgia but Georgia getting the nod. You are talking 2003/2004 type controversy.

I get the vibe we are going to have some kind of controversy this year with Playoffs.

Non conference champs UGA and Tennessee with 1 loss and Oregon Pac 12 champ with 1 loss for the last spot is going to create some sort of controversy no matter who they picked.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I think the issue isn't the Georgia loss but Georgia getting the nod over Oregon. Georgia needs to be out of the picture for Oregon to make it. Best case for Oregon would be Georgia going either unbeaten and knocking out Alabama/Tennessee as options or Georgia having 2 losses.

Yea Georgia going undefeated is really the best option for Oregon.

Alabama is then completely eliminated and then Tennessee has a little less shine not making the SECCG.

The Pac 12 period needs to really hope they get 2 1 loss teams in the title game. That gives them a better chance of getting a team in. Looks better beating a 1 loss top 10 team rather than giving a 2 loss team their 3rd loss in the Pac 12 title game.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I will speak to the SEC:

- If UGA, Bama, UTjr, or LSU win out they are in.
- I know people will take exception to the LSU talk but I think a 2 loss LSU with wins over Bama, UGA/UTjr are in.
- If the SECCG is two one loss teams or LSU, then the winner is in. No second team gets in in that situation.
- A second team only gets in if UGA/UTjr wins out, but has a good loss in the SECCG; or if the winner of UGA/UTjr wins the SECCG and the loser of that game played it close and wins all the rest of their games in big fashion (UTjr - Vandy and USCjr; UGA - MSU, UF, and UK).

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

BTW, can the 12-team CFP get here fast enough so we can stop with these types of posts?

 

[osubuckeye89]

I will speak to the SEC:

- If UGA, Bama, UTjr, or LSU win out they are in.
- I know people will take exception to the LSU talk but I think a 2 loss LSU with wins over Bama, UGA/UTjr are in.
- If the SECCG is two one loss teams or LSU, then the winner is in. No second team gets in in that situation.
- A second team only gets in if UGA/UTjr wins out, but has a good loss in the SECCG; or if the winner of UGA/UTjr wins the SECCG and the loser of that game played it close and wins all the rest of their games in big fashion (UTjr - Vandy and USCjr; UGA - MSU, UF, and UK).

LSU really needs TCU or Clemson to lose. They aren't putting a 2 loss team in over undefeated teams.

They'd have a hard time justifying putting them in over 1 loss Oregon/USC as well.

You can't just ignore that FSU loss, even though it was in week 1.

I think this will all be worthless drivel though because LSU will probably lose to Bama or even if they happen to beat Bama, lose in the SEC title game. This is a overreaction to LSU beating a Ole Miss team that just isn't as good as their ranking was.

LSU somehow winning out really would create quite the mess though.

 

[OlyDuck]

BTW, can the 12-team CFP get here fast enough so we can stop with these types of posts?

thats cute that you think it would stop then
arguments over the 11, 10 spots would still happen.
arguments over the 8 and 9 would happen (home field)

 

[osubuckeye89]

thats cute that you think it would stop then
arguments over the 11, 10 spots would still happen.
arguments over the 8 and 9 would happen (home field)

Yep lol. 12 teams just opens up for more whining. There's quite a bit more teams that can cry about getting left out of a 12 team playoff than a 4 team playoff.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

I will speak to the SEC:

- If UGA, Bama, UTjr, or LSU win out they are in.
- I know people will take exception to the LSU talk but I think a 2 loss LSU with wins over Bama, UGA/UTjr are in.
- If the SECCG is two one loss teams or LSU, then the winner is in. No second team gets in in that situation.
- A second team only gets in if UGA/UTjr wins out, but has a good loss in the SECCG; or if the winner of UGA/UTjr wins the SECCG and the loser of that game played it close and wins all the rest of their games in big fashion (UTjr - Vandy and USCjr; UGA - MSU, UF, and UK).

LSU def needs help in order to make the playoff.

 

[Volbound1700]

It's silly to compare Oregon/UGA due to the H2H. The more accurate comparison is Oregon vs other 1 loss teams

While I somewhat agree with your view point, I am trying to consider how others would view it nationally. I just don't see a scenario were a 1-loss Oregon team gets in over a 1-loss Georgia team.

 

[osubuckeye89]

LSU def needs help in order to make the playoff.

It would really be a mess if LSU did win out

You'd have a 2 loss LSU winning the SEC and probably 2 SEC teams with 1 loss (UGA and Tennessee)

Assume the Big 12 champ has 1 loss at least

Oregon/USC Pac 12 champ (maybe with 1 loss)

Clemson ACC champ (likely undefeated)

Undefeated B1G Champ (Ohio State or Michigan)

Really only Clemson and the B1G champ would be safe.

There would be a shit ton of controversy no matter who they picked for the other 2 spots.

 

[duckboy33]

Yep lol. 12 teams just opens up for more whining. There's quite a bit more teams that can cry about getting left out of a 12 team playoff than a 4 team playoff.

Less legitimate complaints IMO. New system will let any major conference champ in and the top teams that miss out on their conference title. If you don’t make it at that point, it’s time to just accept your bowl game