Will the G5 ever get another invite if the format sticks to 4?

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
They threw Cinci a bone this year, mostly because of how the cards fell. Had Oklahoma St not lost, and had #5 been a P5 team at 11-1 who didn't lose to Cincy, I think they get bumped again. Now that they play Alabama and will likely get throttled, will the committee ever put another G5 team in the playoff again (assuming we stay at 4 spots for the next few years)? I think they'll use this year to justify never putting them in again.
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No because all the good G5 teams will be P5 teams starting soon. Don't forget that Cincy, BYU, UCF and Houston all will be P5 once they join the B12. That doesn't leave much in the G5, and none of them will likely have a ND win. That ND win was key to this season for Cinci.

All that said, they have to and will go to 12 ... 3 P5 conferences were left out. If OU and TX move to the SEC next year, and TX starts giving $50K to all their players, the SEC will be in a position of getting 2 in most years. That can't keep happening. It will be 12 sooner rather than later.
 
Well, the BIG XII future teams will have BYU, Cincy, etc. along with the ones that don't leave. Not sure of what status they will be listed as or compared to, but if that "new BIG XII" was in effect this year, it would probably look at least on par or even better than the PAC 12 and/or ACC. Cincy, Baylor, BYU, Oklahoma State, etc. Yeah they would have probably beaten each other up, but how is that different from any other conference?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Maybe...or will the B12 turn into a non-P5 conference (or the least respected) soon...if not already? Every P5 conference has major brands associated with it. Without Texas or OU who are the big names of the B12? They might just turn into the Big East during the BCS era.
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The Big Xii is and will be better than both the Pac-12 and the ACC. Not sure why everybody continues to not see that.
 
78Cyclones said:
The Big Xii is and will be better than both the Pac-12 and the ACC. Not sure why everybody continues to not see that.
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It won’t be. Their core teams are who? Baylor? TCU?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
It won’t be. Their core teams are who? Baylor? TCU?
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Oklahoma State, Iowa State, K-State, Texas Tech, West Virginia, adding BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. Kansas is the only awful fotball program. 5 of the future Big Xii teams are ranked in the Final CFP Ranking (3 in the top 10) compared to 6 total by the ACC and Pac-12 combined.

The Pac and the ACC are awful. Nobody watches them either. The Big Xii Championship Game with Baylor and Oklahoma State way outdrew both the Pac and ACC Championship Games.
 
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current Big XII w/o Oklahoma and Texas is still passable from a competition standpoint.

with that said, being able to tell kids that you're going to be able to play against Texas + OU has been a pretty big selling point for the hateful 8. I'm interested to see what happens on the recruiting trail once that selling point disappears.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
But we know that won't happen. What has happened as certain conferences "seemed" weaker, is their champs have been left out in favor of like two SEC teams.
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Yup, and no pressure or anything, but if two SEC teams meet in the final this year they are going to keep getting the benefit of the doubt.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Maybe...or will the B12 turn into a non-P5 conference (or the least respected) soon...if not already? Every P5 conference has major brands associated with it. Without Texas or OU who are the big names of the B12? They might just turn into the Big East during the BCS era.
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The new B12 can't be any worse than the PAC. The teams in the new B12 have more ranked OOC wins this year than the Pac-12.
 
Hitman Hart said:
current Big XII w/o Oklahoma and Texas is still passable from a competition standpoint.

with that said, being able to tell kids that you're going to be able to play against Texas + OU has been a pretty big selling point for the hateful 8. I'm interested to see what happens on the recruiting trail once that selling point disappears.
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It absolutely won’t help not being able to say you can play against OU and Texas. But what’s even more concerning for little guys like my team is this NIL and ability for the bigger universities with huge boosters to pay for players which is all essentially legal now. There is 0 chance my team could find boosters/corporations that would be able to pay 50k a lineman. That’s what I and others that don’t have that should be very worried about. (among some other things)
 
ralphiewvu said:
It absolutely won’t help not being able to say you can play against OU and Texas. But what’s even more concerning for little guys like my team is this NIL and ability for the bigger universities with huge boosters to pay for players which is all essentially legal now. There is 0 chance my team could find boosters/corporations that would be able to pay 50k a lineman. That’s what I and others that don’t have that should be very worried about. (among some other things)
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We are going to morph into two different divisions. NIL and Non-NIL. That does't bother me at all. Got news for folks. There are more of us (Non-NIL) than them.
 
ralphiewvu said:
It absolutely won’t help not being able to say you can play against OU and Texas. But what’s even more concerning for little guys like my team is this NIL and ability for the bigger universities with huge boosters to pay for players which is all essentially legal now. There is 0 chance my team could find boosters/corporations that would be able to pay 50k a lineman. That’s what I and others that don’t have that should be very worried about. (among some other things)
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I remember when it used to be amateur athletics.
 
Im not sure why anyone who has watched Bama this year thinks it is a given they "throttle" Cincy

Reality is Bama is one dumbass Auburn RB away from not even being in the playoff and they barely beat 3 6-6 teams

I mean COULD Bama won by 20+? Sure. But its hardly a certainty

Despite what we saw Saturday this isnt a traditionally great Bama team
 
78Cyclones said:
We are going to morph into two different divisions. NIL and Non-NIL. That does't bother me at all. Got news for folks. There are more of us (Non-NIL) than them.
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Not sure about that one. The NIL will receive a higher amount of cheese from the networks then the non NIL
 
ralphiewvu said:
It absolutely won’t help not being able to say you can play against OU and Texas. But what’s even more concerning for little guys like my team is this NIL and ability for the bigger universities with huge boosters to pay for players which is all essentially legal now. There is 0 chance my team could find boosters/corporations that would be able to pay 50k a lineman. That’s what I and others that don’t have that should be very worried about. (among some other things)
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I hate it...but I don't know how you put the cork back in the bottle.
 
Mistaken4193 said:
This Cincy team is nowhere near as good as the following G5 teams:

2004 Utah
2006 Boise
2008 Utah(fuck them)
2009 Boise
2009 TCU
2010 TCU
2011 Boise
2017 UCF

All those teams would skullfuck this Cincy team.....and I’m still very nervous about this game
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Hitman Hart said:
current Big XII w/o Oklahoma and Texas is still passable from a competition standpoint.

with that said, being able to tell kids that you're going to be able to play against Texas + OU has been a pretty big selling point for the hateful 8. I'm interested to see what happens on the recruiting trail once that selling point disappears.
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They are screwed once scholarship limits are gone whether they are in a different conference or not.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Not sure about that one. The NIL will receive a higher amount of cheese from the networks then the non NIL
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But there will be fewer teams in that semi-pro league. Let the greedy bastards play amongst themselves. There are only a handful of teams who can play that game. MOST of the country will be following their local teams playing in the Non-NIL League.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
They threw Cinci a bone this year, mostly because of how the cards fell. Had Oklahoma St not lost, and had #5 been a P5 team at 11-1 who didn't lose to Cincy, I think they get bumped again. Now that they play Alabama and will likely get throttled, will the committee ever put another G5 team in the playoff again (assuming we stay at 4 spots for the next few years)? I think they'll use this year to justify never putting them in again.
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I don't think they are getting throttled. Bama was dogshit down the stretch. The only reason they got there was because Auburn couldn't kill the clock late. They were lights out against a Georgia team that had been told for weeks they were in and wasn't focused on the prize at hand. Plus Georgia has a mental block when it comes to Bama. You saw Michigan and Oklahoma State overcome the same thing the week before. Cincy doesn't have the same issue.

The way championship weekend went they were in. Oklahoma State was literally 2 inches from winning and you have no idea how much that game hurts but the reality is they got dominated by their opponent and we needed like 7 goaline shots to win the game and failed on them all. We win in the last second and end up at 5 while Cincy is 4. As a alum of the spurned team I'm not bitching about it.
 
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