Winning Doesn't Matter In College Football Anymore

[Deep Creek]

P2 and P4 will be a lot different. Title IX suits to follow, but pretty confident they don't have to pay women who make no revenue.

I wasn’t even talking about paying women or even minor sports athletes. I was referring to cutting some sports out completely.

 

[Deep Creek]

I also don't think it is $22m for football, but for athletics.

Yes. How to partial out the money (regardless of the amount) is causing consternation.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Are we talking a CBA that gives a pool to a school and becomes a defacto salary cap? A CBA solves nothing if you can also give out NIL because you are still in the same boat.

The CBA is whatever they can negotiate with the players. They will have to show them that paying out of TV revenue is better than pay-for-play NIL. If a CBA says what the Hose settlement is going to try to enforce, then it will have the teeth needed.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I wasn’t even talking about paying women or even minor sports athletes. I was referring to cutting some sports out completely.

I don't see that happening. I see the Admins and coaches whining about it, but at the end of the day they won't cut sports, or at least not many.

 

[fordman84]

I don't see that happening. I see the Admins and coaches whining about it, but at the end of the day they won't cut sports, or at least not many.

Which would lead to schools that decide to invest their money in a particular sport to be able to lead the conference/nation in it. Schools that don't care about football and just offer scholarships, they can sink that into the other sports. May not have a very good ROI, but if you invest $10m into money for womens soccer or softball you can get some pretty stout rosters. Basketball schools can get the top recruits by sending most of their money that way.

 

[Deep Creek]

I don't see that happening. I see the Admins and coaches whining about it, but at the end of the day they won't cut sports, or at least not many.

I don’t think so either IF revenue works out. I don’t see it being an issue at all with the P2. There is going to be plenty to go around there. I do think the non P2 are going to reduce that $22 million to a number where they don’t have to cut sports.

 

[fordman84]

I don’t think so either IF revenue works out. I don’t see it being an issue at all with the P2. There is going to be plenty to go around there. I do think the non P2 are going to reduce that $22 million to a number where they don’t have to cut sports.

Crazy idea that might work would be for each sport to keep its own set of books, paying something like a franchise royalty back to the school and then operating their payments to players that way.

 

[Deep Creek]

Which would lead to schools that decide to invest their money in a particular sport to be able to lead the conference/nation in it. Schools that don't care about football and just offer scholarships, they can sink that into the other sports. May not have a very good ROI, but if you invest $10m into money for womens soccer or softball you can get some pretty stout rosters. Basketball schools can get the top recruits by sending most of their money that way.

Or direct a disproportionate amount of revenue sharing/NIL to a particular position like DL. Those seem to be the rare animals.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I don't see how NIL can ever be put back in the bag. Unless congress steps up and makes it illegal for Jim Bob Autos to pay a kid to "Advertise" for them, then really not much that can be done. Even then I would expect any bill to get challenged up to the SCOTUS. Now that we have kids being paid endorsement deals how could anyone come back and take that away? College sports basically have lost their amateurism status now that kids are getting endorsement deals.

I think you can get rid of collectives which will kill most of it.

 

[Wild Turkey]

The CBA is whatever they can negotiate with the players. They will have to show them that paying out of TV revenue is better than pay-for-play NIL. If a CBA says what the Hose settlement is going to try to enforce, then it will have the teeth needed.

So basically limited to the total CBA amount so a cap per team.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

So basically limited to the total CBA amount so a cap per team.

Maybe. Whatever the two parties can come up with. Just like any negotiations, they will hash everything out.

 

[RubinRock]

Ross Dellenger has done a good job of breaking a lot of this stuff down a long the way. Gives a look into what latest ruling impacts a lot of the other sports and walkons for football.

Historic House-NCAA settlement leaving hundreds of Olympic sport athletes in peril

While the NCAA and power conferences agreed to expand upon scholarships as part of the settlement, they also imposed roster limits for sports, many of which did not previously exist.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[7samurai13]

Florida State told us that it didn’t matter last year