Worst P5 Conference Top to Bottom This Year?

Worst P5 Conference Top to Bottom This Year?

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Across The Field said:
This question depends entirely on how you evaluate a conference. Does having solid depth but no real elite team matter? Or is having multiple legit CFP contenders with a drop off after matter? Right now, I'd have the ACC at the bottom, and FSU's shit-burger against BC is a big reason. That same BC team lost to an extremely bad NIU team, so FSU should've won that game by 40+, but instead they barely survived. Duke, UNC, and Miami might be legit, but it's likely they're just solid teams that'll float in and out of the top 25 throughout the year.
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I have the ACC slightly ahead of the B1G at this point. There are still huge games left OOC though that could change it. ND/OSU, Duke/ND and Clemson/ND. Those will determine who I put at #2. I think the ACC is a little deeper in the middle of the conference(teams 4-8). Both stink at the bottom, but so does every other conference. After the P12, every other P5 conference has taken on a bunch of losses OOC.
 
Arizona State has to be the worst P5 at this point?

Virginia, BC, Northwestern, Stanford are all terrible but I think they'd all beat ASU right now.

Too bad Stanford and ASU avoid each other on the Pac 12 schedule.
 
ericd7633 said:
I have the ACC slightly ahead of the B1G at this point. There are still huge games left OOC though that could change it. ND/OSU, Duke/ND and Clemson/ND. Those will determine who I put at #2. I think the ACC is a little deeper in the middle of the conference(teams 4-8). Both stink at the bottom, but so does every other conference. After the P12, every other P5 conference has taken on a bunch of losses OOC.
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I didn't realize ND played Duke, that's a good barometer for them.

The ACC might be a little better from 4-8 but I'd say it's negligible. The B1G is obviously better from 1-3, and the bottom 5 from the ACC are way worse than the bottom 5 from the B1G. The ND outcomes will be interesting, but then again, we also need to know how good ND is, also.

I'm also probably not as high on the ACC as you are because I was down on LSU from the start this year, which is their big OOC win, and I also don't look at A&M being a big win since this is a hot mess of a program coming off a 5-7 season.
 
Across The Field said:
I didn't realize ND played Duke, that's a good barometer for them.

The ACC might be a little better from 4-8 but I'd say it's negligible. The B1G is obviously better from 1-3, and the bottom 5 from the ACC are way worse than the bottom 5 from the B1G. The ND outcomes will be interesting, but then again, we also need to know how good ND is, also.

I'm also probably not as high on the ACC as you are because I was down on LSU from the start this year, which is their big OOC win, and I also don't look at A&M being a big win since this is a hot mess of a program coming off a 5-7 season.
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I'll believe Miami is a legit good team when I see it play out all season, considering their track record the last 2 decades, they are liable to stumble and finish like 7-5 even with the weak schedule in front of them.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I'll believe Miami is a legit good team when I see it play out all season, considering their track record the last 2 decades, they are liable to stumble and finish like 7-5 even with the weak schedule in front of them.
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I think this is almost certainly the likely outcome, but the ACC is overall so bad that they might hit 9-3. They're still not a very good team.
 
Maybe I misunderstood the OP intent. I didn't think this was ranking the conferences, but rather which conference is the weakest (all of the teams in the conference considered).

My answer: SEC. Conference has been carried by 3 teams for a decade, and none of them appear to be world beaters ATM.
 
fordman84 said:
Man I remember the days when it was ghey to cheer for a conference.

It still is, but I see more of y'all doing it ever day. :pop2:
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When there is probably 6 or 7 teams who have a legitimate chance to win a title -- you resort to cheering on your conference.

SEC is the absolute worst. You'd think every team was Georgia or Alabama the way they talk about the SEC. :hammer:
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
When there is probably 6 or 7 teams who have a legitimate chance to win a title -- you resort to cheering on your conference.

SEC is the absolute worst. You'd think every team was Georgia or Alabama the way they talk about the SEC. :hammer:
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Maybe if it were 5 years ago, but don't see a whole lot of "team SEC" talk. I see a LOT of team PAC and Team B1G going around.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
When there is probably 6 or 7 teams who have a legitimate chance to win a title -- you resort to cheering on your conference.

SEC is the absolute worst. You'd think every team was Georgia or Alabama the way they talk about the SEC. :hammer:
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Still laughing at ESPN describing Bama's game Saturday on their scroller as "Alabama PULLS AWAY AFTER WEATHER DELAY"
 
Across The Field said:
I think this is almost certainly the likely outcome, but the ACC is overall so bad that they might hit 9-3. They're still not a very good team.
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I was thinking that too until I remember that they are Miami and are liable to lose a couple of games that they "shouldn't" lose on paper.

Virginia is a total layup and so is Temple. Georgia Tech and BC are bad teams but have shown some life at least. The rest of the games outside of that they could easily lose (UNC, Clemson, FSU, Louisville, NC State)
 
cwerph said:
Maybe I misunderstood the OP intent. I didn't think this was ranking the conferences, but rather which conference is the weakest (all of the teams in the conference considered).

My answer: SEC. Conference has been carried by 3 teams for a decade, and none of them appear to be world beaters ATM.
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To be fair nobody at all really looks like a world beater so far this season. This year is feeling like it could get real interesting once the thick of conference play hits.
 
fordman84 said:
Maybe if it were 5 years ago, but don't see a whole lot of "team SEC" talk. I see a LOT of team PAC and Team B1G going around.
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I was on a staff call last month and someone who isn't a fan brought of OSU football. Some clown from Memphis (Vol Fan), said, yeah, but when they get to the playoffs, the SEC will take care of them.

I called him out on it right then and there - - - rooting for conferences is stupid. I want Michigan to lose every game on the worst call in the history of calls. If they were playing the Taliban, I would root for the terrorists.
 
cwerph said:
I was on a staff call last month and someone who isn't a fan brought of OSU football. Some clown from Memphis (Vol Fan), said, yeah, but when they get to the playoffs, the SEC will take care of them.

I called him out on it right then and there - - - rooting for conferences is stupid. I want Michigan to lose every game on the worst call in the history of calls. If they were playing the Taliban, I would root for the terrorists.
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I used to have a work associate who was a Kentucky fan, he legit swore that Kentucky would be a national power year after year if they played in the B1G and that being "stuck playing in the SEC gauntlet" was the only reason they were a mediocre program. This kind of SEC honk is the worst. They aren't as rampant as they used to be, but they still exist. The "these teams are only mediocre because SEC!!!!" guy.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
I was thinking that too until I remember that they are Miami and are liable to lose a couple of games that they "shouldn't" lose on paper.

Virginia is a total layup and so is Temple. Georgia Tech and BC are bad teams but have shown some life at least. The rest of the games outside of that they could easily lose (UNC, Clemson, FSU, Louisville, NC State)
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One thing I'll say about Miami this year is it finally seems like Van Dyke has put it together. Thankfully enough he has a month before they play any semblance of a real defense. You're right though, they could turn around and just be Miami again and shit down their leg.
 
Across The Field said:
One thing I'll say about Miami this year is it finally seems like Van Dyke has put it together. Thankfully enough he has a month before they play any semblance of a real defense. You're right though, they could turn around and just be Miami again and shit down their leg.
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9-3 is doable, but like you said, that definitely does not mean they are anywhere near a upper level team.

Miami would get clobbered by anyone in the top 10 at the moment.
 
Across The Field said:
I didn't realize ND played Duke, that's a good barometer for them.

The ACC might be a little better from 4-8 but I'd say it's negligible. The B1G is obviously better from 1-3, and the bottom 5 from the ACC are way worse than the bottom 5 from the B1G. The ND outcomes will be interesting, but then again, we also need to know how good ND is, also.

I'm also probably not as high on the ACC as you are because I was down on LSU from the start this year, which is their big OOC win, and I also don't look at A&M being a big win since this is a hot mess of a program coming off a 5-7 season.
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Agreed, the B1G is better at the top. 1-3 collectively. After that it's a pretty big drop to the #4 team. If you're saying FSU, Duke and UNC are the top 3, the ACC has Miami, Clemson, and Cuse who I think are top-25ish type teams. At this point, I think only Iowa is that in the B1G. Maybe MD, but man they haven't looked that great against a terrible schedule.

There honestly haven't been a lot of marquee non-conference wins this year. Texas over Bama, FSU over LSU, I think are the only ranked wins thus far(meaning the losing team is still ranked).
 
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