Your Top 5 after Week 7?

I'm not putting Ohio St in my top 5 until I see them play a legit defense and/or a pretty good offense. I still have my questions about their inconsistent defense, I have less questions about their offense but I want to see Stroud handle more pressure in a game. He has improved over the season, crazy to think he is a freshman still.

1. UGA
2. Bama
3. Cincy
4. Oklahoma
5. Penn St.
 
7samurai13 said:
Michigan will have to run a split squad like MLB preseason. Should be no problem since UM has like 4 Heisman caliber QBs.
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Michigan hasn't had a quality QB since Chad Henne. :pound:
 
Shanemansj13 said:
I'm not putting Ohio St in my top 5 until I see them play a legit defense and/or a pretty good offense. I still have my questions about their inconsistent defense, I have less questions about their offense but I want to see Stroud handle more pressure in a game. He has improved over the season, crazy to think he is a freshman still.

1. UGA
2. Bama
3. Cincy
4. Oklahoma
5. Penn St.
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Not to take anything away from Stroud, but when he is throwing to wide open WRs. It isn't too difficult to put up big numbers. It is why you see OSU QB's struggle in the NFL when they have to make throws where WR's are covered.

OSU simply has the best Wr's in the B1G by a landslide. You could put Ryan Day as QB and he'd put up huge stats.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Not to take anything away from Stroud, but when he is throwing to wide open WRs. It isn't too difficult to put up big numbers. It is why you see OSU QB's struggle in the NFL when they have to make throws where WR's are covered.

OSU simply has the best Wr's in the B1G by a landslide. You could put Ryan Day as QB and he'd put up huge stats.
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I don't necessarily agree with "that's why they struggle in the NFL" but it does have to do with the great talent around them. If you look at recent Ohio St QB's none of them were projected to be high draft picks or great QB's. Haskins had one great year and was overrated, other than that they were just really good college QB's that weren't made for the NFL. Fields is the only guy that could be that franchise QB in the NFL and verdict is still out the next couple years.

Pryor, BMiller, Barrett, Krenzel, Troy Smith....all those guys were never going to be anything
 
Shanemansj13 said:
I don't necessarily agree with "that's why they struggle in the NFL" but it does have to do with the great talent around them. If you look at recent Ohio St QB's none of them were projected to be high draft picks or great QB's. Haskins had one great year and was overrated, other than that they were just really good college QB's that weren't made for the NFL. Fields is the only guy that could be that franchise QB in the NFL and verdict is still out the next couple years.

Pryor, BMiller, Barrett, Krenzel, Troy Smith....all those guys were never going to be anything
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Pryor, Braxton Miller, Fields, etc. were all 5 star #1 QB's. It is no different than guys like Tim Tebow. You can be absolutely dominate in college because you are throwing the ball to guys who are WIDE OPEN. That doesn't happen at the next level. And it is why so many QB's at OSU have been great in college and then been enormous flops in the NFL.

OSU's WRs are light years better than 99.9% of the CB groups they face, so their QB's have to make very few NFL caliber throws.

Saying after the fact -- they weren't made for the NFL is easy to say, but Pryor was the #2 recruit in the Nation, Miller was #20 in the nation, Fields was #2 in the nation (and would have been 1 if not for TrevorLawrence).
 
1 UTSA
2 Cinci
3 OKST
4 Sparty
5 UGA
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Pryor, Braxton Miller, Fields, etc. were all 5 star #1 QB's. It is no different than guys like Tim Tebow. You can be absolutely dominate in college because you are throwing the ball to guys who are WIDE OPEN. That doesn't happen at the next level. And it is why so many QB's at OSU have been great in college and then been enormous flops in the NFL.

OSU's WRs are light years better than 99.9% of the CB groups they face, so their QB's have to make very few NFL caliber throws.

Saying after the fact -- they weren't made for the NFL is easy to say, but Pryor was the #2 recruit in the Nation, Miller was #20 in the nation, Fields was #2 in the nation (and would have been 1 if not for TrevorLawrence).
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We see 5 star guys all the time that are great college players but you just know they aren't going to make it to the pros. The most important thing is they weren't projected to be great players and actually Braxton switched to WR his final year and Pryor did in the NFL. That says even more they weren't great QB's and certainly not for the NFL.

A flop is a player projected to go high in the draft and they are bums in the NFL. You can't be a flop if you were never projected to do well in the NFL lol. You know why all those guys were top recruits? Bc they were athletic as shit but even in todays' times were QB's are succeeding and being super athletic, there is still a very small chance those players will succeed but even moreso when they really just don't have the arm talent. All those QB's were good/great in college bc of how they ran the ball. JT was a bad passer in college and had an awful deep ball. Pryor and Miller switched to WR for good reason. Cardale had one good run but you just know as a fan watching those guys they weren't going to be NFL QB's. Those were easy ones, guys like Fields or even Haskins harder to tell. Fields has EASILY the highest potential and shot at being a NFL out of that list and it isn't close.
 
Shanemansj13 said:
We see 5 star guys all the time that are great college players but you just know they aren't going to make it to the pros. The most important thing is they weren't projected to be great players and actually Braxton switched to WR his final year and Pryor did in the NFL. That says even more they weren't great QB's and certainly not for the NFL.

A flop is a player projected to go high in the draft and they are bums in the NFL. You can't be a flop if you were never projected to do well in the NFL lol. You know why all those guys were top recruits? Bc they were athletic as shit but even in todays' times were QB's are succeeding and being super athletic, there is still a very small chance those players will succeed but even moreso when they really just don't have the arm talent. All those QB's were good/great in college bc of how they ran the ball. JT was a bad passer in college and had an awful deep ball. Pryor and Miller switched to WR for good reason. Cardale had one good run but you just know as a fan watching those guys they weren't going to be NFL QB's. Those were easy ones, guys like Fields or even Haskins harder to tell. Fields has EASILY the highest potential and shot at being a NFL out of that list and it isn't close.
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Barrett was very good in college when OSU had the WR talent. When he had Michael Thomas, Devin Smith and i forget the 3rd one (Marshall sticks out in my head, but not sure that is his name) -- He was unreal. Then they left for the NFL and they lacked a WR who was a deep threat like Smith or caught everything thrown to him like Thomas.

What OSU has now is an absolutely stacked WR group. Their QB is throwing to guys who are WIDE OPEN. Oregon is the only game where he had some pressure and had to make some throws and it was his worst game, even though to final stat line looked good (as a Lions fan, we call that the Stat Padfford game -- pile up stats once a defense drops off and starts defending against big plays and giving up underneath throws)

As I see it -- Stroud will be replaced next year or Ewers will be transferring. I just can't see Stroud staying on as the starter.
 
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