Volbound1700 Playoff Watch - Week 8

[OlyDuck]

Then they'll be arguing the 10-12 spots.

unlikely arguing the 12 as most years it will be the 6th champion who is guaranteed a spot

 

[Red_Alert]

thats cute that you think it would stop then
arguments over the 11, 10 spots would still happen.
arguments over the 8 and 9 would happen (home field)

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

went back and watched it. the laughing was more at Kirk for having to answer the question. Desmond never stops laughing. Kirk says if Georgia isnt there. David asks if a bunch of other teams lose? kirk says absolutely they have a shot. David and Des both say 0 shot.

Yes -- they absolutely have a shot, if Georgia isn't there. And yes, they all laughed. I actually felt bad for Oregon fans after seeing them react like that, because they all laughed.

 

[Red_Alert]

It is what will happen -- no way they allow one of the two premier matchups for the season to be a game played already where a team lost by 46 already.

It is also why the analysts laughed when Oregon was brought up as a possibility for the CFP. How exactly are they going to rank them over other one loss teams? It will continue to come back to -- Oregon has a 46 point loss. The only other PAC team to play a solid team in OOC was Utah and they lost to Utah. So IMO, even if Oregon runs the table, they'd need chaos to have a shot at the CFP.

I know it wasn't a popular opinion when i said it last week, but seeing the reaction from the GameDay analysts -- they feel the exact same way.

Huh?

 

[OlyDuck]

Yes -- they absolutely have a shot, if Georgia isn't there. And yes, they all laughed. I actually felt bad for Oregon fans after seeing them react like that, because they all laughed.

i literally watched they were laughing through the entire segment which was a grab bag question after question about who is on the hot seat? who is the best mascot? Pat never laughed. the laughing came at Kirk having to answer in front of the crowd not at the notion. its on you tube easy to see.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Huh?

Utah lost to Florida is what it was meant to say

 

[Volbound1700]

I mentioned Utah, because they are the other "top team" in the PAC. They played a mediocre SEC team in Florida in OOC and lost. This is all stuff the committee will look at. Oregon could be, BY FAR, the best team in the PAC, but the PAC has two chances to flex in OOC. Oregon was murdered by Georgia, Utah was beaten by a mediocre SEC team in Florida.

So if it comes down to 1 loss teams -- the PAC isn't getting the benefit of the doubt, IMO.

At least they flexed, with exception of Penn State-Auburn and Ohio State-Notre Dame, the B1G didn't schedule an OOC game with a pulse. Even then, both Auburn and Notre Dame have had horrid seasons.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

At least they flexed, with exception of Penn State-Auburn and Ohio State-Notre Dame, the B1G didn't schedule an OOC game with a pulse. Even then, both Auburn and Notre Dame have had horrid seasons.

That flex is what will be keeping Oregon out of the CFP. You only get bonus points for a flex if you actually flex AT ALL. 49-3 is all the flexing anyone needs to know.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Then they'll be arguing the 10-12 spots.

You are correct, but no one will care when a 3 loss team gets left out. This would be bad if UM, tOSU, Bama, UGA, UTjr, Ore, USC, TCU, Clemson all keep playing well. Someone is going to get screwed. That said, these almost always work out.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

True. They just didn't always get the order correct or always get the best two into the final....starting with the first year. Two best teams played in one semifinal that year.

Been saying that for years. The committee has missed the top two more than they have gotten it right!

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

It won't solve anything. There are 68 teams that make March Madness but there are always controversy every year with that Tournament. When we get to 12-team, it will be about the best 2-loss team lol.

Stop and think that through. 2-3 teams bitch for day and then no one cares. We are arguing/discussing what is going to happen 2/3 into the season - and I am ok with that. But no one will care what no. 13 did except their fans.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

LSU def needs help in order to make the playoff.

They win out and they are good. It would help if Clemson lost, and if TCU loses a game, but no one in the PAC will have 0 losses. If TCU loses, comparing the SECC with 2 losses to teams with 1 loss is better than undefeateds.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

thats cute that you think it would stop then
arguments over the 11, 10 spots would still happen.
arguments over the 8 and 9 would happen (home field)

Cute, but see my other posts - sure, that will happen but (1) it won't be near the issue of a 5 or 6 being left out, and (2) no one will care what the 13th team thinks. Or at least not for more than a day or two.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

LSU really needs TCU or Clemson to lose. They aren't putting a 2 loss team in over undefeated teams. - I agree

They'd have a hard time justifying putting them in over 1 loss Oregon/USC as well - that's easily done, especially Oregon.

You can't just ignore that FSU loss, even though it was in week 1. - I don't know, I seem to recall your team getting in when they (1) lost their first game to VaTech, and (2) getting in without even playing in the B1GCG. Not sure I'd be the one making that point if I were a tOSU fan.

I think this will all be worthless drivel though because LSU will probably lose to Bama or even if they happen to beat Bama, lose in the SEC title game. This is a overreaction to LSU beating a Ole Miss team that just isn't as good as their ranking was. - very possible, but I think Bama better hitting on all cylinders for a night game in Red Stick!

LSU somehow winning out really would create quite the mess though. - yes, yes it would.

 

[UbetterDUCK]

Conference Champs:
UGA 13-0
tOSU 13-0
Clemson 13-0
Okie State 12-1
Oregon 12-1

1 Loss non champ teams
Bama 11-1
Michigan 11-1
TCU 12-1

This scenario has UGA beating Tenn in season and SEC Champ game.
Okie State beating TCU in Big 12 title game.

Who would be your 4th team?

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Conference Champs:
UGA 13-0
tOSU 13-0
Clemson 13-0
Okie State 12-1
Oregon 12-1

1 Loss non champ teams
Bama 11-1
Michigan 11-1
TCU 12-1

This scenario has UGA beating Tenn in season and SEC Champ game.
Okie State beating TCU in Big 12 title game.

Who would be your 4th team?

Impossible. UGA and Tennessee are in the same division. So if UGA beats Tennessee -- they'd have to beat Bama. So Bama would be a 2 loss and Tennessee would be a 1 loss non champ.

As long as Tennessee doesn't get absolutely hammered by Georgia -- Tennessee would get in over Oregon with 1 loss, as they'd have a better schedule they have played and a better win against Bama.

 

[UbetterDUCK]

Conference Champs:
UGA 13-0
tOSU 13-0
Clemson 13-0
Okie State 12-1
Oregon 12-1

1 Loss non champ teams
Michigan 11-1
TCU 12-1
Tenn 11-1

This scenario has UGA beating Tenn in season and Bama in SEC Champ game.
Okie State beating TCU in Big 12 title game.

Who would be your 4th team?

Ok I’m a dumbass. Totally F’d this up. But you figured it out. UGA beating Tennessee and then Bama in title game. You would put Tennessee in over Okie State or Oregon. Providing Tennessee plays a competitive game.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Ok I’m a dumbass. Totally F’d this up. But you figured it out. UGA beating Tennessee and then Bama in title game. You would put Tennessee in over Okie State or Oregon. Providing Tennessee plays a competitive game.

The SEC getting two teams in if they don't have undefeated champs is a no brainer. It is, by far, the best conference in CFB this year.

Hell -- it could honestly be argued the SEC could get 3 teams if Tennessee beats Georgia, then Bama beats Tennessee in the SEC CG. That'd leave Georgia, Tennessee and Bama all with 1 loss. If Clemson and TCU lose a game. It could easily be argued that Georgia, Tennessee, Bama and the winner of OSU/Michigan could be the top 4.

Oregon's biggest obstacle isn't that they lost to Georgia -- it is HOW they lost to Georgia.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

While I somewhat agree with your view point, I am trying to consider how others would view it nationally. I just don't see a scenario were a 1-loss Oregon team gets in over a 1-loss Georgia team.

Obviously not. It's moronic to even waste type considering it.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

They win out and they are good. It would help if Clemson lost, and if TCU loses a game, but no one in the PAC will have 0 losses. If TCU loses, comparing the SECC with 2 losses to teams with 1 loss is better than undefeateds.

2-loss SEC champ is not getting in over 1-loss P5 champs.

Sorry that you have to face reality.