The CFP matchups are like an early christmas present.......

Goldbug said:
Tennessee would also be a better choice than Ohio State. If TN got in over Alabama it would have been a fair selection too. It just pi$$es me off that so many people get upset at the thought of "too many SEC teams in the playoff". This f'n country is eaten up with entitlement and social justice and equal outcomes instead of basing things on merit. The best teams are in the SEC. Why shouldn't the playoff be heavy with SEC teams? The idea that everyone else should just get better if they don't like it seems to escape too many of these snowflakes. Oklahoma might get its doors blown off in the SEC but at least we aren't standing around whining about the unfairness of those teams always being too highly ranked. /rant off
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What merit is it you are speaking of? What has Bama done this year where they are more deserving?
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
What merit is it you are speaking of? What has Bama done this year where they are more deserving?
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I love it. Bama loses two games on the last play on the road and all these honks can do is claim Bama/Saban is just not up to snuff with teams that played in weaker conferences and they either kept getting lucky in close wins or got the ever loving shit beat out of them by their rival. If you take all the emotion out of it, the computers rank Alabama #3 which is a far cry from #5 when the people with agendas are involved. When OU was getting stuck on probation in the 1970's Bob Devaney famously said "Be careful; you're just making them mad". Same thing here. Gonna be fun watching Alabama next year.
 
ralphiewvu said:
We go by resume, not who we think will win. If that’s the case get Michigan out of there because bama would be favored against them. Thats my point.
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GB is just getting a headstart on coattail-riding season. If this season is any indication, that's gonna be best case scenario once they make the SEC.
 
Deep Creek said:
Let this sink in. 50% of the CFP teams are not conference champions!
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It's almost like being a conference champion is not a requirement to get into the CFP and is actually only used as a tie breaker!
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
What’s your case for Bama over Tennessee, or do games just not matter since Tennessee has the same record as Bama, a win over Bama and a dominant road win over the other team that beat Bama
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This is really easy:

- H2H - it's a push between the 2 - UTjr wins by a field goal, at home, crazy home field advantage, gives up a million highlighting their terrible defense, Bama has to commit 17 penalties and have the coach screw up clock management in order to lose. That's a push in the committee's eyes.

- You can't give up 69 points against USCjr and expect any respect.

- You lost your QB who likely wins the Heisman but for getting hurt.

That's a push to me.

Then you have the UTjr loss to USCjr by a million. While Bama loses in OT by 1 to LSU.

All that is why the committee has then ahead of UTjr.
 
I was initially disappointed to get tOSU and not TCU. But after thinking about it, I am good with it. If tOSU is as good as people say, we must play them at some point. I'd rather have them after a month of prep instead of 10 days of prep. Got to beat the best to be the best. Bring it on.
 
Goldbug said:
I love it. Bama loses two games on the last play on the road and all these honks can do is claim Bama/Saban is just not up to snuff with teams that played in weaker conferences and they either kept getting lucky in close wins or got the ever loving shit beat out of them by their rival. If you take all the emotion out of it, the computers rank Alabama #3 which is a far cry from #5 when the people with agendas are involved. When OU was getting stuck on probation in the 1970's Bob Devaney famously said "Be careful; you're just making them mad". Same thing here. Gonna be fun watching Alabama next year.
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We heard that after they lost to Georgia last year -- this was going to be the best Bama team we've seen.
Truth be told -- this is one of the worst Bama teams in Saban's tenure. The only reason they are #5 is because of the past success they have had. Georgia is the class of the SEC this year and it isn't even remotely close.

Bama's best wins this year are what? 8-4 Ole Miss? A&M won like 4 games -- they almost beat Bama. Texas was 8-4 or 7-5 (not sure what they were this year), but they lost Ewers in the 1st quarter and still almost beat Bama. If Ewers doesn't go down -- I'd bet my quite a bit they would have, because Bama's defense, especially their secondary is nothing like they were in the past. Ewers throw for like 150 yards in the 1st quarter. Tennessee was without Cedric Tillman when they faced Bama and they still threw all over them. Hyatt caught what -- 5 tds passes?

You are talking about Bama as if it is the dominate Bama teams of year's past. That isn't this year's team. Their secondary can be exploited, they don't have a Waddle, Ruggs, DeVeon Smith, Jameson Williams. I'd bet a lot of Bama fans are happy they aren't 4th having to face Georgia, as I think Georgia would blow them out.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
It's almost like being a conference champion is not a requirement to get into the CFP and is actually only used as a tie breaker!
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Yep. We'd seen it several times before with tOSU, Bama and Georgia haven't we? But this is the first year there are two....and one doesn't have "the brand".
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
We heard that after they lost to Georgia last year -- this was going to be the best Bama team we've seen.
Truth be told -- this is one of the worst Bama teams in Saban's tenure. The only reason they are #5 is because of the past success they have had. Georgia is the class of the SEC this year and it isn't even remotely close.

Bama's best wins this year are what? 8-4 Ole Miss? A&M won like 4 games -- they almost beat Bama. Texas was 8-4 or 7-5 (not sure what they were this year), but they lost Ewers in the 1st quarter and still almost beat Bama. If Ewers doesn't go down -- I'd bet my quite a bit they would have, because Bama's defense, especially their secondary is nothing like they were in the past. Ewers throw for like 150 yards in the 1st quarter. Tennessee was without Cedric Tillman when they faced Bama and they still threw all over them. Hyatt caught what -- 5 tds passes?

You are talking about Bama as if it is the dominate Bama teams of year's past. That isn't this year's team. Their secondary can be exploited, they don't have a Waddle, Ruggs, DeVeon Smith, Jameson Williams. I'd bet a lot of Bama fans are happy they aren't 4th having to face Georgia, as I think Georgia would blow them out.
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This is all true about this year's Bama team. They had their chance.

But, with a month to get healthy and prepare, I'd still take them on a neutral field against Michigan, TCU and Ohio State.
 
Deep Creek said:
This is all true about this year's Bama team. They had their chance.

But, with a month to get healthy and prepare, I'd still take them on a neutral field against Michigan, TCU and Ohio State.
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I don't know enough about TCU. But I'd take OSU all day. They'd throw for 500 yards in Bama's defense this year with their WRs, especially if a month from now Ngjiba-Smith can play.
 
Deep Creek said:
This is all true about this year's Bama team. They had their chance.

But, with a month to get healthy and prepare, I'd still take them on a neutral field against Michigan, TCU and Ohio State.
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With Michigan. I'm a fan and after so many years of failures -- until they show me otherwise. I still don't believe in them.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
We heard that after they lost to Georgia last year -- this was going to be the best Bama team we've seen.
Truth be told -- this is one of the worst Bama teams in Saban's tenure. The only reason they are #5 is because of the past success they have had. Georgia is the class of the SEC this year and it isn't even remotely close.

Bama's best wins this year are what? 8-4 Ole Miss? A&M won like 4 games -- they almost beat Bama. Texas was 8-4 or 7-5 (not sure what they were this year), but they lost Ewers in the 1st quarter and still almost beat Bama. If Ewers doesn't go down -- I'd bet my quite a bit they would have, because Bama's defense, especially their secondary is nothing like they were in the past. Ewers throw for like 150 yards in the 1st quarter. Tennessee was without Cedric Tillman when they faced Bama and they still threw all over them. Hyatt caught what -- 5 tds passes?

You are talking about Bama as if it is the dominate Bama teams of year's past. That isn't this year's team. Their secondary can be exploited, they don't have a Waddle, Ruggs, DeVeon Smith, Jameson Williams. I'd bet a lot of Bama fans are happy they aren't 4th having to face Georgia, as I think Georgia would blow them out.
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I never bought into the hype, based on the fact that they had the top players on D and O - but just one each.

I wrote some posts about it here at the time. Just made no sense to me when you looked at their ILBs, CBs, OL, and good but not elite WRs.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
- You can't give up 69 points against USCjr and expect any respect.
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Scenario Village Time!

Lets say Georgia and Tennessee tied in the east with 1 loss each. Both losing to Florida as follows;

Georgia 38
Florida 69

Tennessee 20
Florida 21

Using the SEC conference tiebreakers, how is it determined who will go to the CCG and represent the division?
 
101stAB said:
Scenario Village Time!

Lets say Georgia and Tennessee tied in the east with 1 loss each. Both losing to Florida as follows;

Georgia 38
Florida 69

Tennessee 20
Florida 21

Using the SEC conference tiebreakers, how is it determined who will go to the CCG and represent the division?
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That’s an impossible scenario. One of them is gonna have the head to head loss to the other.

But I don’t know how it would be determined if there was a Big 12 South in 2008 scenario with three one loss teams where Texas beat Oklahoma, Oklahoma beat Texas Tech and Texas Tech beat Texas
 
101stAB said:
Scenario Village Time!

Lets say Georgia and Tennessee tied in the east with 1 loss each. Both losing to Florida as follows;

Georgia 38
Florida 69

Tennessee 20
Florida 21

Using the SEC conference tiebreakers, how is it determined who will go to the CCG and represent the division?
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I am not sure of the point you are trying to make.

Two-team tie-breaker procedure[edit]​

  1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams.
  2. Records of the tied teams within the division.
  3. Records against the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.
  4. Complete record vs. all non-divisional opponents.
  5. Complete record vs. all common non-divisional teams if there be any.
  6. Record vs. common non-divisional opponent (if there be any) with the best overall conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
  7. Best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents
  8. Coin flip of the tied teams
So that's the rule.

That said, the committee isn't looking at those rules. They would see the 69 point beat-down and if it were between one getting into the CFP and not the other, they would go with UTjr.
 
101stAB said:
Scenario Village Time!

Lets say Georgia and Tennessee tied in the east with 1 loss each. Both losing to Florida as follows;

Georgia 38
Florida 69

Tennessee 20
Florida 21

Using the SEC conference tiebreakers, how is it determined who will go to the CCG and represent the division?
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I dont know about anyone else but I’m still wondering how Florida managed to lose 2 from Mizzou, USCe, Kentucky and Vanderbilt in this scenario after whipping Georgias ass.
 
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