Tom Osborne retired at 60

But he wouldn’t have been awarded that fake title in 97 had he not retired. So he’d already be in the hole if he didn’t.

Nebby was the best team in ‘97, maize. That’s their title. We’ve been through this a million god damn times. :facepalm:

UM had the weaker resume/body of work and was statistically worse in almost every single category.
 
Nebby was the best team in ‘97, maize. That’s their title. We’ve been through this a million god damn times. :facepalm:

UM had the weaker resume/body of work and was statistically worse in almost every single category.
The best teams if you ignore all the metrics. Sure. worse against common opponents. Required a fluke play to stay undefeated. Wasn’t in the number one spot until he announced retirement. But sure. “Best”. If Osborn doesn’t retire they don’t vault positions. This is a fact that Nebraska fans have to cope with.
 
The best teams if you ignore all the metrics. Sure. worse against common opponents. Required a fluke play to stay undefeated. Wasn’t in the number one spot until he announced retirement. But sure. “Best”. If Osborn doesn’t retire they don’t vault positions. This is a fact that Nebraska fans have to cope with.
I totally agree with you.

Right up until that first “if”.
 
"Oklahoma was our friend"
"They made us better"
"Oklahoma taught us that speed and athleticism were critical at the QB position"

You're Welcome

 
"Oklahoma was our friend"
"They made us better"
"Oklahoma taught us that speed and athleticism were critical at the QB position"

You're Welcome



And saban was about to call it quits when Nebraska took him behind the woodshed. Dr Tom put his arm around a young Nick saban and told him he would be great.

Btw. Saban STILL has never beaten Nebraska
 
But he wouldn’t have been awarded that fake title in 97 had he not retired. So he’d already be in the hole if he didn’t.
If they had playoffs the question would have been answered, but they didn’t have playoffs back then. There is a certain group of people that think the louder you yell and the more you cry the better your team was. That group of people, is the Nebraska Cornhuskers. In fairness to Nebraska, their future is looking pretty bleak … they have to grasp onto the past.
 
worse against common opponents.

Two mid-season road games vs conf opps and two early season home games vs non-conf opps.

Yeah, that doesn’t really mean a whole lot. What else ya got? :yawn:

Required a fluke play to stay undefeated.

Nebby had two games decided by a td or less. UM had four.

Gonna have to do better than that.

Wasn’t in the number one spot until he announced retirement.

Overruled.

Nebby had already been the higher ranked team for the first 2/3 of the season anyway.

If Osborn doesn’t retire they don’t vault positions. This is a fact that Nebraska fans have to cope with.

Several pollsters only watched UM’s narrow escape vs WSU and didn’t even bother watching the Nebby-Tenny game.

Just handed the #1 spot to UM, gift-wrapped and all.

Nebby got a legitimate nat’l title. UM got one hell of an xmas gift.
 
If they had playoffs the question would have been answered, but they didn’t have playoffs back then.

Not sure they really needed the playoffs. They really just needed #1 vs #2.

But, no, the B1G just wasn’t having any of that. No, sir.

They just had to have their special little “Rose Bowl” against a lesser team.

When they did move to the BCS, the B1G had to be dragged the whole way, kicking, screaming, and flailing.

And here we are.
 
Not sure they really needed the playoffs. They really just needed #1 vs #2.

But, no, the B1G just wasn’t having any of that. No, sir.

They just had to have their special little “Rose Bowl” against a lesser team.

When they did move to the BCS, the B1G had to be dragged the whole way, kicking, screaming, and flailing.

And here we are.
This ranking was last century … the coaches gave one of their own a #1 ranking as a retirement gift. It’s not that big of a deal. Nice career Tom Osborne.
 
Not sure they really needed the playoffs. They really just needed #1 vs #2.

But, no, the B1G just wasn’t having any of that. No, sir.

They just had to have their special little “Rose Bowl” against a lesser team.

When they did move to the BCS, the B1G had to be dragged the whole way, kicking, screaming, and flailing.

And here we are.
Also, if Michigan didn’t go to the Rose Bowl, they probably would have been sued and face possible sanctions by the NCAA. They were contractually obligated.
 
Also, if Michigan didn’t go to the Rose Bowl, they probably would have been sued and face possible sanctions by the NCAA. They were contractually obligated.

It wasn't a one season issue.

Bowl Coalition: 1992 - 1994 (Match the top 2 teams in a National Championship game)
Bowl Alliance: 1995 - 1997 (Match the top 2 teams in a National Championship game)

They began work on the Bowl Coalition agreement in 1990 after a split National Championship between Colorado (AP) and GA Tech (Coaches).

The Big 10 had 8 years to jump onboard one of those.
In refusing to play the best for a natty, they got exactly what they wanted with their Rose bowl match-up against #8 Washington St. as opposed to having to play the best available (Nebraska).

1997 Michigan is basically 1984 BYU.
 
It wasn't a one season issue.

Bowl Coalition: 1992 - 1994 (Match the top 2 teams in a National Championship game)
Bowl Alliance: 1995 - 1997 (Match the top 2 teams in a National Championship game)

They began work on the Bowl Coalition agreement in 1990 after a split National Championship between Colorado (AP) and GA Tech (Coaches).

The Big 10 had 8 years to jump onboard one of those.
In refusing to play the best for a natty, they got exactly what they wanted with their Rose bowl match-up against #8 Washington St. as opposed to having to play the best available (Nebraska).

1997 Michigan is basically 1984 BYU.
Was Michigan contractually obligated to play in the Rose Bowl? Excuse me for not living in the last century and complaining about a ranking. If I were voting, I may have given Tom Osborne a retirement gift too.
 
Was Michigan contractually obligated to play in the Rose Bowl? Excuse me for not living in the last century and complaining about a ranking. If I were voting, I may have given Tom Osborne a retirement gift too.

They didn't have to be.

They WANTED to be.

The Big 10 did NOT want to have to play the best available in event of a possible national championship team. Odds were a lot better to get a lesser opponent in the Rose Bowl.
 
They didn't have to be.

They WANTED to be.

The Big 10 did NOT want to have to play the best available in event of a possible national championship team.
So, Michigan was not contractually obligated to play in the Rose Bowl? You know this how?
 
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