Texas NIL Bill

[Deep Creek]

Why is anyone surprised about any of this? Once the revenue skyrocketed why wouldn’t players want a piece of the pie?

Using the money being thrown around as a gauge, it appears they are just tapping the keg. Let ‘em get as much as they can. If they can’t handle it by blowing it all, getting in IRS hot water, etc, so be it. The road is lined with 21 year old trust fund idiots that shoved their portion up their nose.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Disagree, even regulated there will be teams that can't afford to spend at the top. Unregulated is as even as regulated.

Don't listen to what that UGA idiot that has 19 degrees from every school known to man is spewing. A&M didn't lose anyone of consequence from our #1 class. I am pretty sure A&M didn't lose a single player that played in the last game of the season. Everyone that left either wasn't a highly rated player or was kicked off the team earlier in the season for being a trouble maker.

You had multiple 5 star recruits and 27 kids total leave. I am not even sure who you are talking about with the UGA guy, as I haven't read any posts of his, they are too long.
That being said -- regulating NIL will put in place federal laws, so it doesn't leave 17, 18, 19 year old kids with massive tax bills, as you know, that is exactly what is going to happen, as there is no chance all these kids are paying taxes on what they are getting. It is the wild west right now and it will only get worse if they don't put rules in place.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

yeah they have.. but what they have issues is keeping those guys in the program.. take a look at the players they have lost in the portal.. I get it, they weren't to the level they expect, they have true dawgs coming in from HSFB

If you are signing 5, 6, 7...........9 five star recruits every year -- you are going to have turnover, especially in today's NIL age. You will have a school willing to pay you to come to their school AND you won't have to wait.

That is why I said -- if they want to pay college kids like professional athletes -- make them sign contracts, make them expendable if they don't perform, make them available to be traded among schools. You can't preach about how you want the benefits if you don't want to accept the down side.

 

[Deep Creek]

IRS and the NIL

The IRS was granting tax-exempt status to collectives for more than a year before issuing the memo that determined, in many cases, paying players isn't merely incidental to the charitable cause but "is the very justification for the organization's existence."

"The only question was to what extent would the IRS would put its thumb on the scales. It was pretty clear many of these organizations were pushing the boundaries," said Brian Mittendorf, an accounting professor at Ohio State with a concentration on nonprofits.

"The IRS memo put a line in the sand," Mittendorf said. "Paying college athletes is not a charitable purpose. Paying an athlete and doing some charitable work on the side, is also not a charitable purpose."

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

One of the main guys on surly had this thought about the July 1st showdown with the new NIL bill and the NCAA
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Also there is this

In first two years of NIL compensation, Texas A&M athletes have earned more than $10M

In the second year of legalized name, image and likeness compensation, Texas A&M athletes more than doubled their revenue on NIL deals.

theeagle.com

Listen to the cute Texas fans coming in all whiny. Damn, no wonder no one likes you guys. Fortunately the big boys in the SEC won’t put up with your shit. We’ll smack your nose with a rolled up newspaper and put your nose in your shit when you misbehave.

Pro tip … Alabama and Georgia and other SEC schools have rich alumni and can raise all the money needed.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

During our Christmas party last December, I made some sizable bets with several of my friends (Texas grads) that OU and Texas would not be in the same conference in 10 years, 15 years at the latest. Anyone on here think they would have taken my bet? I knew in my gut that the friction was going to start "any day now" between the mentality in the state of Texas and the SEC. It would just be a matter of time until..................................... It's a star-crossed marriage that is doomed to failure and a nasty divorce. They're already fighting during the honeymoon.

Nah, Texas is all hat, no cattle when it comes to the SEC. They are used to pushing people around. It won’t happen in the SEC.

 

[fordman84]

You had multiple 5 star recruits and 27 kids total leave. I am not even sure who you are talking about with the UGA guy, as I haven't read any posts of his, they are too long.
That being said -- regulating NIL will put in place federal laws, so it doesn't leave 17, 18, 19 year old kids with massive tax bills, as you know, that is exactly what is going to happen, as there is no chance all these kids are paying taxes on what they are getting. It is the wild west right now and it will only get worse if they don't put rules in place.

Tell me who we lost, explain how that is half our class, then compare that with how many of them were even playing at the end of the year.

 

[Red_Alert]

Nah, Texas is all hat, no cattle when it comes to the SEC. They are used to pushing people around. It won’t happen in the SEC.

tejas is gonna cut your fucking throats. They're gonna knock the legs right out from under you. It's what they do.

Goodbye SEC.
tejas has to take you down to be relevant. They will cut backroom deals with other SEC members to vote against you on everything. A weak Georgia gives Bulldog opponents an opportunity to beat them.

tejas is all about keeping their conference opponents down, because......

Nobody underachieves like tejas. NOBODY!!

 

[fordman84]

tejas is gonna cut your fucking throats. They're gonna knock the legs right out from under you. It's what they do.

Goodbye SEC.
tejas has to take you down to be relevant. They will cut backroom deals with other SEC members to vote against you on everything. A weak Georgia gives Bulldog opponents an opportunity to beat them.

tejas is all about keeping their conference opponents down, because......

Nobody underachieves like tejas. NOBODY!!

I mean, look at how they started conversations with the SEC. In secret, with their buddies in Norman, and intentionally keeping the rest of the Big12 and A&M from knowing anything was advancing beyond over-the-pants petting. Not exactly a sign of playing well with others.

 

[Deep Creek]

I mean, look at how they started conversations with the SEC. In secret, with their buddies in Norman, and intentionally keeping the rest of the Big12 and A&M from knowing anything was advancing beyond over-the-pants petting. Not exactly a sign of playing well with others.

Are you saying the SEC knew exactly what Texas was like when they invited them into the conference….and still did so? Will they be surprised at anything Texas (or OU) does?

For the most part, horses run pretty much true according to how The Daily Racing Form.says they will. Then again, there is that disclaimer of historical performance is no indication of future results.

 

[fordman84]

Are you saying the SEC knew exactly what Texas was like when they invited them into the conference….and still did so? Will they be surprised at anything Texas (or OU) does?

For the most part, horses run pretty much true according to how The Daily Racing Form.says they will. Then again, there is that disclaimer of historical performance is no indication of future results.

SEC knew, and knows. And there is always the failure of "this time it will be different" or "we can control them like no one else could".

It's why exes get back together.

 

[Thiefery]

Listen to the cute Texas fans coming in all whiny. Damn, no wonder no one likes you guys. Fortunately the big boys in the SEC won’t put up with your shit. We’ll smack your nose with a rolled up newspaper and put your nose in your shit when you misbehave.

Pro tip … Alabama and Georgia and other SEC schools have rich alumni and can raise all the money needed.

lol all the money needed.. only in the dark...

Sun is out now ...

 

[Goldbug]

Nah, Texas is all hat, no cattle when it comes to the SEC. They are used to pushing people around. It won’t happen in the SEC.

You missed the point. It's when they don't get what they want after the SEC has pushed back that will cause the trouble to fester. Schools like Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the "2nd Tier' universities will resist the UT agenda and, trust me, it won't go down well. There are a dozen ways to see how the problems would develop. OU and Texas will not be in the same conference 10-15 years from now.

 

[Thiefery]

Nah, Texas is all hat, no cattle when it comes to the SEC. They are used to pushing people around. It won’t happen in the SEC.

lol we just unzipped NIL all over you and the NCAA..

Your commish just backed the state of TX.. he knows where the real power resides..

All Hat, no Cattle..

I see why you had to replace this mutt.. Your daddy is back!!

 

[Thiefery]

You missed the point. It's when they don't get what they want after the SEC has pushed back that will cause the trouble to fester. Schools like Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the "2nd Tier' universities will resist the UT agenda and, trust me, it won't go down well. There are a dozen ways to see how the problems would develop. OU and Texas will not be in the same conference 10-15 years from now.

only because there will be an elite conference.. say goodby to the kentuckys, south carolinas, purdues, NW..of the worlds

TEXAS league
ou
lsu
tosu
usc
psu
bama
uga
UF
fsu
Clemson
um
aggy
TN

3rd world vietnam league:

everyone else

 

[fordman84]

only because there will be an elite conference.. say goodby to the kentuckys, south carolinas, purdues, NW..of the worlds

TEXAS league
ou
lsu
tosu
usc
psu
bama
uga
UF
fsu
Clemson
um
aggy
TN

3rd world vietnam league:

everyone else

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

lol we just unzipped NIL all over you and the NCAA..

Your commish just backed the state of TX.. he knows where the real power resides..

All Hat, no Cattle..

I see why you had to replace this mutt.. Your daddy is back!!

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It’s humorous you think NIL is the only way you can win, and appear proud of it. SMH. The next time that happens will be the first. Welcome to 4 loss seasons in the SEC.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

You missed the point. It's when they don't get what they want after the SEC has pushed back that will cause the trouble to fester. Schools like Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the "2nd Tier' universities will resist the UT agenda and, trust me, it won't go down well. There are a dozen ways to see how the problems would develop. OU and Texas will not be in the same conference 10-15 years from now.

Who cares what they do … they are with other big boys now. They can’t run over us. They aren’t the bully any more. Will be fun to watch their reaction when schools like Ole Miss and Vandy exert equal power as them. They are in for a rude awakening.

 

[Deep Creek]

It’s humorous you think NIL is the only way you can win, and appear proud of it. SMH. The next time that happens will be the first. Welcome to 4 loss seasons in the SEC.

Won’t be anything new. They lost 4+ games six of the last ten years in their old conference. Same, same.

 

[Red_Alert]

You missed the point. It's when they don't get what they want after the SEC has pushed back that will cause the trouble to fester. Schools like Kentucky, Tennessee, and the rest of the "2nd Tier' universities will resist the UT agenda and, trust me, it won't go down well. There are a dozen ways to see how the problems would develop. OU and Texas will not be in the same conference 10-15 years from now.

tejas has a way of lobbying fellow conference members to vote against the elite.
Since tejas underachieves so much they have to bring goliath down.

When the Big 12 was formed, Nebraska was Goliath. Many votes went 1-11 against the Huskers. One in particular was that Big 12 coaches were limited in how much time they could be out of the office on the recruiting trail. Since Nebraska recruited nationally it affected them greatly. Being king of the talent rich state of Texas, the donghorns knew they'd be least affected by the rule. They could jump in the car and drive just a few hours to recruit and be back that night. Nebraska coaches would have to fly and stay overnights to recruit (i.e. More hours adding up away from the office).
The rest of the Big 12 knew they were essentially cutting off their noses to spite their faces on the rule, but being able to compete with and occasionally beat Nebraska was a big deal to them. OU was down in the dumps at the time, but since they're just a 3 hour drive to the Texas border, and they've always recruited Texas heavily, it wouldn't effect the blueblood Sooners as much as it would Iowa St, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas St. Those teams weren't beating 11-1 Nebraska teams, they were beating 9-4/10-4 (and even lesser) Nebraska teams, but that didn't matter because they were beating blueblood Nebraska who'd been taking them behind the woodshed for decades.

Bama (and recently Georgia) are the SEC elite. It would be a big deal for other SEC members school's, Athletic Depts, Alumni, and Fans to occasionally beat Alabama and Georgia. Even though Tennessee got hammered 63-38 by South Carolina, they got a nice bump in recruiting rankings for this last class after beating Bama.

Not sure what tejas has up their sleeve for when they officially join the SEC in 2024, but you can be sure it'll be something to cause festering trouble, as you said.