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ND is seeking to triple their current deal.
This has lead to questions of can that happen as an indipendent or will this finally drive them to a conference.
Media consultant who used to work for Fox Sports, Patrick Crakes, doesnt think they can get that much.

"My big-picture thought is that Notre Dame will need a conference to support a three-time bump long term. I think either the Big Ten or SEC would do. Also, don't rule out a third new conference in several years. A lot of assumptions are falling apart as pay-TV-bundle economics go flat."

im pretty skeptical of a 3rd new conference but if a power conference were to be attempted with ND as a part of it (presumably at the head of the table) who would they seek to invite? I would assume a chunk of the ACC but not all of the ACC.

Could Notre Dame join the Power 5? How Big 12 expansion and Pac-12 media rights scenario can influence decision
 
OlyDuck said:
ND is seeking to triple their current deal.
This has lead to questions of can that happen as an indipendent or will this finally drive them to a conference.
Media consultant who used to work for Fox Sports, Patrick Crakes, doesnt think they can get that much.

"My big-picture thought is that Notre Dame will need a conference to support a three-time bump long term. I think either the Big Ten or SEC would do. Also, don't rule out a third new conference in several years. A lot of assumptions are falling apart as pay-TV-bundle economics go flat."

im pretty skeptical of a 3rd new conference but if a power conference were to be attempted with ND as a part of it (presumably at the head of the table) who would they seek to invite? I would assume a chunk of the ACC but not all of the ACC.

Could Notre Dame join the Power 5? How Big 12 expansion and Pac-12 media rights scenario can influence decision
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this is basically what i was telling @Wild Turkey Crazy but UTs LHN deal was paying more than the NBC ND deal.. No way they were gonna get the 60M a year that they wanted to stay independent with NBC footing the bill..

People were bring up scenarios of them playing more BiG schools and maybe Fox would pay more for those..but they also have a deal in place right now with the ACC...

They will be going into a conference within the next 10 years for sure.. the money is too great to stick to independence
 
Thiefery said:
this is basically what i was telling @Wild Turkey Crazy but UTs LHN deal was paying more than the NBC ND deal.. No way they were gonna get the 60M a year that they wanted to stay independent with NBC footing the bill..

People were bring up scenarios of them playing more BiG schools and maybe Fox would pay more for those..but they also have a deal in place right now with the ACC...

They will be going into a conference within the next 10 years for sure.. the money is too great to stick to independence
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ND may well join a conference, but not because of money. I'm guessing they might have too for scheduling purposes, because we might get to the point where leagues are playing 10 conference games which makes it difficult to put together an independent schedule.
 
My guess is ND gets between 60-65 million/yr in a new contract. Or around 10-11 million/home game, which is roughly half of what they gave for the B1G/yr.
 
The obvious choice is the B10. I don’t see ND joking the SEC although nothing shocks me anymore.

Just don’t seem them rising to 60 million a year in any of the other 3 leagues.
 
Like i said before, often negotiations start with a number you dont realistically expect to get so maybe instead of 3x their current they are really hoping to double up or maybe just over that.
i wonder if they still want NBC or if the peacock games has them looking elsewhere
 
im still wondering who that consultant thinks they could make a new conference with that could get around that kind of money
 
they also have to work through the ACC contract they signed.. I believe if they went to a conference, it would have to be the ACC.. which they would probably be so desperate that they get to bring the NBC deal as it's 3rd tier provider like UT had with LHN

15-20 mil plus the 40 plus..then add a portion of the CFP money..that easily takes them over 60M
 
Thiefery said:
they also have to work through the ACC contract they signed.. I believe if they went to a conference, it would have to be the ACC.. which they would probably be so desperate that they get to bring the NBC deal as it's 3rd tier provider like UT had with LHN
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not if the ACC breaks up and we already know their is that desire by a handful of teams
 
ericd7633 said:
ND may well join a conference, but not because of money. I'm guessing they might have too for scheduling purposes, because we might get to the point where leagues are playing 10 conference games which makes it difficult to put together an independent schedule.
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the gap will becoming so wide, they will have no choice.. they make peanuts right now through their TV contracts compared to the new deals the BiG and SEC signed
 
Does anyone truly know how many votes it would take to make the ACC GoR null and void? I’ve heard anywhere from 50% (8) to 100% (15 w/ND). But ive never gotten a firm number
 
OlyDuck said:
Like i said before, often negotiations start with a number you dont realistically expect to get so maybe instead of 3x their current they are really hoping to double up or maybe just over that.
i wonder if they still want NBC or if the peacock games has them looking elsewhere
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Sounds like going to shops in Juarez back in the day. No price tags. You ask the price and the clerk gives you a sky high price. You counter with a real low ball. After several back and forths you get the guy down to 75% of the sky high price he quoted to start with. While you walk away with your merchandise thinking how good of a deal you got, the little Mexican sales clerk is counting his money and laughing his ass off because he knows he got you yo overpay.
 
OlyDuck said:
im still wondering who that consultant thinks they could make a new conference with that could get around that kind of money
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I agree. I was wondering the same thing. There aren’t enough bell weather teams remaining in the other conferences combined to attract that kind of money imo.
 
Thiefery said:
they also have to work through the ACC contract they signed.. I believe if they went to a conference, it would have to be the ACC.. which they would probably be so desperate that they get to bring the NBC deal as it's 3rd tier provider like UT had with LHN

15-20 mil plus the 40 plus..then add a portion of the CFP money..that easily takes them over 60M
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IIRC they are bound to the ACC as far as joining a conference as a full member until… 2030..ish :noidea: however long the ACC signed their deal for.
With the Big12 looking at the basketball schools like UConn and Gonzaga ect. For other revenue I wonder what (ok how close) the ACC could get to the SEC/BIG if ND joined as a full member then adding those schools that the Big12 has mentioned? I can’t believe that it would be the same but.. could be close enough (for ND anyway) when you throw in the expanded playoff monies which ND SHOULD get a fair share of in a lot of years playing a typical ACC slate.
 
Thiefery said:
the gap will becoming so wide, they will have no choice.. they make peanuts right now through their TV contracts compared to the new deals the BiG and SEC signed
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If my projected number is correct and ND gets between 60-65 million, on top of the 10+ million they get by being in the ACC for other sports, you're looking at 70-75 million/yr. If the cost of remaining independent is 10-15 million/yr, ND is going to remain independent.
 
Deep Creek said:
I agree. I was wondering the same thing. There aren’t enough bell weather teams remaining in the other conferences combined to attract that kind of money imo.
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like take ND and the top names Clemson FSU miami VT
maybe test the waters on WVU Penn State Maryland?
who else
 
OlyDuck said:
like take ND and the top names Clemson FSU miami VT
maybe test the waters on WVU Penn State Maryland?
who else
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MD and PSU aren't leaving the B1G ever. Maybe something like:

ND
FSU
Clemson
Miami
Pitt
WVU
VT
UVA
UNC
Duke

Basically it would be like adding ND to the ACC, and perhaps pulling WVU out of the big 12.
 
ericd7633 said:
If my projected number is correct and ND gets between 60-65 million, on top of the 10+ million they get by being in the ACC for other sports, you're looking at 70-75 million/yr. If the cost of remaining independent is 10-15 million/yr, ND is going to remain independent.
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where are you getting this projection of 60-65 million from? Is this if they stayed Independent?
 
Thiefery said:
where are you getting this projection of 60-65 million from? Is this if they stayed Independent?
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3x their current would be about that which is what they said they would be trying to get
 
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