UGA bitch slaps the Atlanta Journal Constitution ...

Deep Creek said:
"Never argue with people that purchase ink by the barrell."
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I am confident that UGA's general counsel thought through that. But. when its used against you on the recruiting trail, and it's false, there is nothing you can do but fight back.

FWIW, no one is excusing the driving, speeding, etc. All that's fair game and the AJC could have and did investigate that all they wanted. This was just a bunch of BS. Every team has players that get jammed up with sex issues. UGA has literally kicked a half dozen players, including a WR1 and an All-American off the team because of it. Kirby's wife is really involved in the program and was an athlete at UGA. She's not putting up with that. So, at some point you have to fight back.

The other aspect of that quote is that it was said at a time when the MSM actually was respected. They aren't any more, so this will stick and their investigative reporter will have a leash put on him.
 
Though it pains me, even I am inclined to call BS on these allegations. The news media has become not much better that propaganda outlets of late, especially when they have the power to report any allegation backed up with nothing more than "sources say".

I wouldn't trust any allegations from AJC especially. They are incredibly biased, the only question is who this guy really wants to benefit from this fake news.

Sources are confidential, so I can fabricate whatever I want to say and attribute it to a source.
 
rfjeff9 said:
Though it pains me, even I am inclined to call BS on these allegations. The news media has become not much better that propaganda outlets of late, especially when they have the power to report any allegation backed up with nothing more than "sources say".

I wouldn't trust any allegations from AJC especially. They are incredibly biased, the only question is who this guy really wants to benefit from this fake news.

Sources are confidential, so I can fabricate whatever I want to say and attribute it to a source.
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They have plenty of red meat with the speeding issues ... we had another one last week. SMMFH. This fabrication in the sexual issues where UGA really has responded well is kind of amazing. The problem for the AJC is that UGA can harp on their coverage of the sexual incidents and it will take people's minds off the speeding issues, which are real and serious. I am not that dumb that I don't think our people are smart enough PR-wise to take the gift they gave us to try to distract people from the real problem here - the speeding that resulted in the death of two people.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I am confident that UGA's general counsel thought through that. But. when its used against you on the recruiting trail, and it's false, there is nothing you can do but fight back.

FWIW, no one is excusing the driving, speeding, etc. All that's fair game and the AJC could have and did investigate that all they wanted. This was just a bunch of BS. Every team has players that get jammed up with sex issues. UGA has literally kicked a half dozen players, including a WR1 and an All-American off the team because of it. Kirby's wife is really involved in the program and was an athlete at UGA. She's not putting up with that. So, at some point you have to fight back.

The other aspect of that quote is that it was said at a time when the MSM actually was respected. They aren't any more, so this will stick and their investigative reporter will have a leash put on him.
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You were wrong when you spewed your "Der aggy paid $20m for a class then lost half of it" bullshit and you are wrong here too.
 
fordman84 said:
You were wrong when you spewed your "Der aggy paid $20m for a class then lost half of it" bullshit and you are wrong here too.
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LOL ... I was just going along with what everyone was saying about you buying the class. Object all you want, you guys dumped a shit ton of money on that class ... 10 million, 20 million, whatever. You guys went all-in and bought a class that you've already lost a bunch of. That's facts. Seriously, are you saying you didn't drop millions on that class, because you would be the only one saying that.

And, no, I am correct on the AJC. They will continue to look into UGA, as they should. But they have been neutered about making shit up.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
LOL ... I was just going along with what everyone was saying about you buying the class. Object all you want, you guys dumped a shit ton of money on that class ... 10 million, 20 million, whatever. You guys went all-in and bought a class that you've already lost a bunch of. That's facts. Seriously, are you saying you didn't drop millions on that class, because you would be the only one saying that.

And, no, I am correct on the AJC. They will continue to look into UGA, as they should. But they have been neutered about making shit up.
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I don't care about the dollar amount, invent any amount you want. You are still talking out of your ass with "already lost a bunch of". PROVE IT. Don't run away like a little cunt like you did the last time you said that shit. If they are "facts" then back it up, facts are easy to prove.
 
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WhosYourDawggy said:
This won't be TLDR, but it will be way shorter than 9 pages.

I will cover 3 things that make it clear the reporter was just making shit up. There are at least a half dozen other things that are inaccurate or were made up. In addition to showing how bad the AJC's writer was, it will show how badly I appear to get under @fordman84 skin and how wrong he was because he can't stand it when I am right, which is most of the time.

1. Eleven players

Among other things, the article states: "UGA football program rallies when players accused of abusing women: Athletes often remain on the team despite sexual assault, domestic violence allegations." The reporter, Judd, claims: "The Journal-Constitution identified 11 players during Smart 's tenure who remained with the team after women reported violent encounters to the police, to the university, or to both." Yet the article only identifies two players by name and another without naming him.

UGAA responding: Noting this discrepancy and being skeptical of the claim, we asked Mr. Judd to provide a full list of the eleven players that meet his description. He initially responded he was away from his office without his files but would respond when he returned to the office. After repeated follow-ups, Mr. Judd refused to provide the list. He claims the AJC has a "policy" not to "release unpublished information," although he has not provided a copy of or citation to this policy. Even if such a policy exists, the AJC did publish this information. Mr. Judd published an entire article excoriating the UGA football program for "rallying" on behalf of players accused of abusing women, primarily based on the assertion that "11 players" remained on the team after being accused. But when asked simply to provide a list of the eleven names referenced in the article, Mr. Judd refused. We are confident there are not "11 players during Smart's tenure who remained with the team after women reported violent encounters" to the police or University; indeed, even the three players mentioned in Mr. Judd's article do not meet this description.

So, the AJC states that there were 11 players allowed to remain on the team despite being accused of sexual assault, or domestic violence allegations. Yet, they won't release who the 11 are - they have no reason not to. Moreover, the 3 that they did refer to were either (1) not on the team - he was a recruit, there were never any charges brought, and it is clear the alleged victim was a psycho; (2) was immediately dismissed from the team and never played another down, and (3) the charges weren't sexual assault but that a player had videotaped consensual sex and the facts of the encounter were wildly exaggerated.

2. Total Misrepresentation of Facts - making it up, or just lying

To show what a shitbag the writer is, let's take a look at the 3rd incident. In the article, Mr. Judd states without qualification: "A player charged with recording a sex act with an unconscious woman remained on the roster for a full season until he transferred." In a subsequent media interview, Mr. Judd again referred to this case, claiming the player videotaped himself "having sex with a woman who had passed out from drinking." In the same interview, he again referred to the player videotaping himself "having sex with a woman blacked out drunk." Mr. Judd then suggested the player received preferential treatment from the Athens-Clarke County police, saying that "strangely" the police did not charge him with sexual assault "even though the video shows that she had no idea what was happening."

That sounds like some bad shit, right? The problem is the AJC never got the police report or the videos, and UGA did. But before we get to his lies, know that even though no charges were ever brought against the player, he was suspended from the team and never played a down for UGA. So, no, this player didn't remain on the team as alleged.

Once UGA got the police report and the video, here is what actually happened. Note how it is nothing like what the AJC said, and they never got the report or the video. "The former player involved in this case was charged with unlawful surveillance for engaging in consensual sexual activity and recording it without consent. As a result of the charge, this player was suspended from competition and never played a single down for the program, even though the unlawful surveillance charge was later dismissed. But the former player was never charged with sexual assault because, according to the police reports, the videos depicted the complainant as "engaged and responsive" and "actively participating" in the sexual activity-contrary to Mr. Judd's false claims. According to the supplemental police reports, the videos "display consensual sex" between the parties. All of this is documented in extensive detail in the supplemental police reports that Mr. Judd requested, but either has not reviewed or is misrepresenting."

So we have a reporter making repeated public assertions that this former player remained on the roster after being "charged with recording a sex act with an unconscious woman" when in fact he was immediately suspended and never played for UGA, and the alleged victim was not unconscious, was not passed out, or blacked out drunk. The AJC chose to create the story he wanted to tell regardless of the facts.

3. Totally cherry-picking parts of an interview

Mr. Judd's article extensively covers a matter involving a 16-year-old prospective student athlete, Jamaal Jarrett, accused of sexual assault during his recruiting visit. Mr. Judd questions the rigor of the Athens-Clarke County Police Department's investigation of the case, characterizing it as "remarkably friendly" and "more like a counseling session." He claims the video of the interview "suggests criminal charges were never likely." These subjective assessments are based on two phrases totaling eight words-both taken out of context from a 54-minute interview.

Mr. Judd first describes the interview as "a remarkably friendly interrogation at the Athens police headquarters, where the detective investigating the sexual assault allegation spoke of 'my beloved Bulldogs."' The words "my beloved Bulldogs" were uttered by the Detective twenty-two minutes into the 54-minute interview, when Mr. Jarrett explained that the complainant had searched for him online and initiated contact with him after seeing him from a distance at the January 2022 National Championship Parade. Recalling the day of the Parade and lamenting that he was required to be on duty that day, the Detective noted sarcastically, "One of many Saturdays I had ruined, working on behalf of my beloved Bulldogs."

So, he was obviously sarcastically using "my beloved Bulldogs" and Judd interprets it to mean that he loves his Dawgs and will therefore go easy on Jarret. The interview that I cited here the other day, and that Josh Pate did a video on calling out the AJC, shows how badly the ACJ writer interpreted this.

He does this numerous times, sometimes tying together statements made 20 minutes apart to sound as if they were stated at the same time. His coverage of the players going to court to support Adam Anderson is incredibly bad.

There is a lot more. At the end of the day, UGA's attorneys absolutely bitch slapped the AJC. I am not going to argue with anyone about this. Read the letter and make your own conclusions. I just bring stuff here, and this one isn't worth arguing over.
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@HammerDown you told me that the “paid by the word program” was no longer available. What the fuck?
 
fordman84 said:
I don't care about the dollar amount, invent any amount you want. You are still talking out of your ass with "already lost a bunch of". PROVE IT. Don't run away like a little cunt like you did the last time you said that shit. If they are "facts" then back it up, facts are easy to prove.
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I think I touched a nerve.

Did you think this was going to be hard to do? With rankings:

45 - Denver Harris - LSU
24 - Chris Marshal - Ole Miss
32 - Anthony Lucas - USC
46 - Smoke Bouie - UGA
55 - PJ Williams - SMU
114 - Marquis Groves-Killebrew- Louisville
399 - Ish Harris - Houston

So, you lost 7 out of 30, 5 of whom were top 100 players. That fits the definition of a "bunch of" to me.

Here's an article on how well it's going:

“Texas A&M has lost 25 scholarship players in one offseason. Eighteen were blue-chip recruits. Eight were top-100 recruits, including five-stars Denver Harris and Chris Marshall. Seven were freshmen from their top-ranked 2022 recruiting class.”

Texas A&M's college football transfer portal numbers are truly staggering. The Aggies lost 25 players, the most in the nation.

Seven of those players were freshman from Jimbo Fisher's highly touted 2022 recruiting class.

I think even you can see why people are saying you lost a bunch from that class, because you did.

clutchpoints.com

Texas A&M, Jimbo Fisher's Transfer Portal Losses Will Make Fans' Heads Spin

Massive transfer portal losses for Texas A&M.
clutchpoints.com
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I think I touched a nerve.

Did you think this was going to be hard to do? With rankings:

45 - Denver Harris - LSU
24 - Chris Marshal - Ole Miss
32 - Anthony Lucas - USC
46 - Smoke Bouie - UGA
55 - PJ Williams - SMU
114 - Marquis Groves-Killebrew- Louisville
399 - Ish Harris - Houston

So, you lost 7 out of 30, 5 of whom were top 100 players. That fits the definition of a "bunch of" to me.

Here's an article on how well it's going:

“Texas A&M has lost 25 scholarship players in one offseason. Eighteen were blue-chip recruits. Eight were top-100 recruits, including five-stars Denver Harris and Chris Marshall. Seven were freshmen from their top-ranked 2022 recruiting class.”

Texas A&M's college football transfer portal numbers are truly staggering. The Aggies lost 25 players, the most in the nation.

Seven of those players were freshman from Jimbo Fisher's highly touted 2022 recruiting class.

I think even you can see why people are saying you lost a bunch from that class, because you did.

clutchpoints.com

Texas A&M, Jimbo Fisher's Transfer Portal Losses Will Make Fans' Heads Spin

Massive transfer portal losses for Texas A&M.
clutchpoints.com
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Our class of 2022, which is the one you talk about as being "$20m" was 32 players (30 signees and 2 incoming transfers). Of those 32, 25 are still on the roster.

Square with me how 7/32 is "half". Use one of your claimed 87 degrees (which I assume one is in "goalpost moving") to explain that math to me.

Side note: 4 of the 7 were cut from the team.
 
fordman84 said:
Our class of 2022, which is the one you talk about as being "$20m" was 32 players (30 signees and 2 incoming transfers). Of those 32, 25 are still on the roster.

Square with me how 7/32 is "half". Use one of your claimed 87 degrees (which I assume one is in "goalpost moving") to explain that math to me.

Side note: 4 of the 7 were cut from the team.
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only took him an hour to not prove it
 
Peter Gozintite said:
only took him an hour to not prove it
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Even better is it took him weeks to not prove it, and move the goalposts from his initial "lost half their class" to "a bunch" of.
 
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