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WhosYourDawggy said:
That's some rando Twitter guy, quoting FSU saying the aren't satisfied. What else is new?

1. The GOR - rock solid. 247 and others don't know what they are talking about.
2. The rest of the ACC will litigate with them.
3. The SEC and the B1G aren't looking so they have no place to go, and neither conference wants to get sucked into the litigation.
4. Over half the SEC will say, "ah, hell no" to brining in more good programs.
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Go listen to what the Florida State BoT Chairman said. Sure sounds like they're ready to make a move...
 
duckboy33 said:
Go listen to what the Florida State BoT Chairman said. Sure sounds like they're ready to make a move...
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My personal take is they are posturing for a greater percentage of ACC revenue as that is an item currently being discussed.

It is hard (although not impossible) to believe that they would be willing to pay 300mm to exit the ACC. That just seems like it would handicap them financially for a decade even if they got B1G money. I guess we can throw cultural fit out the window because money is involved but I can’t imagine the fan base being excited about a B1G schedule either.

It just seems like a tough choice either way for them.
 
Wild Turkey said:
My personal take is they are posturing for a greater percentage of ACC revenue as that is an item currently being discussed.

It is hard (although not impossible) to believe that they would be willing to pay 300mm to exit the ACC. That just seems like it would handicap them financially for a decade even if they got B1G money. I guess we can throw cultural fit out the window because money is involved but I can’t imagine the fan base being excited about a B1G schedule either.

It just seems like a tough choice either way for them.
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I remember when I was called crazy for suggesting that the Big Ten had a vision of creating a national 20-24 team league that stretches from the west coast to the mid west to the north and south east. Fun times.
 
duckboy33 said:
I remember when I was called crazy for suggesting that the Big Ten had a vision of creating a national 20-24 team league that stretches from the west coast to the mid west to the north and south east. Fun times
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You were and are crazy.

Having USC and FSU in the same conference is borderline insane. You can make it work in football but you are eventually going to burn out the other sports and bleed them dry of revenue. With NIL, talks of profit sharing with players and now potentially adding in coast to coast travel?

If the B1G takes Clemson and FSU then the SEC should completely sit out any expansion and if the ACC implodes bait the B1G into also adding UNC and some others which would bloat the league to the point of stress. The SEC brand is as strong as it gets and doesn't need anyone else would be leaner and stronger than the B1G.

Remember what looks good on paper is necessarily actually good.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Having USC and FSU in the same conference is borderline insane.
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No more crazy than having USC and Rutgers in the same conference and that's already happened.

The Big Ten really had no choice. The Big Ten as midwest conference falls further and further behind the SEC. The Big Ten as a national conference continues to thrive.
 
South Carolina's 247 reporter saying he's heard from people who work at Clemson that they are headed to the Big Ten. It's hearsay but...Holy Smokes 😲
 
duckboy33 said:
No more crazy than having USC and Rutgers in the same conference and that's already happened.

The Big Ten really had no choice. The Big Ten as midwest conference falls further and further behind the SEC. The Big Ten as a national conference continues to thrive.
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Does it though?

I think you are doing a huge disservice to the B1G by insinuating they are falling behind because last I checked they were number 2 on the charts. You are grossly underselling the existing B1G and grossly overselling the value of your own school in your thought process.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Does it though?

I think you are doing a huge disservice to the B1G by insinuating they are falling behind because last I checked they were number 2 on the charts. You are grossly underselling the existing B1G and grossly overselling the value of your own school in your thought process.
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I never said the Big Ten was falling behind. They are thriving because of the moves they've made. If the Big Ten was just a regional conference, they would be falling behind the SEC, who has made moves. I thought the national plan was clear after they added USC. The only question is the timing IMO.

I've never stated that the Big Ten's national plan centers around Oregon, that's just a silly attempt to troll.
 
So FSU and Clemson have a plan to pay 300 million dollars each to make the move ??
Is that what I read.
 
Wild Turkey said:
My personal take is they are posturing for a greater percentage of ACC revenue as that is an item currently being discussed.

It is hard (although not impossible) to believe that they would be willing to pay 300mm to exit the ACC. That just seems like it would handicap them financially for a decade even if they got B1G money. I guess we can throw cultural fit out the window because money is involved but I can’t imagine the fan base being excited about a B1G schedule either.

It just seems like a tough choice either way for them.
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I see no incentive for the remaining ACC teams to take less at 300mm. What is the upside for them? Hold the Noles to the contract they signed.

Also that greater % of revenue assumes they earn it. Would be pretty funny for them to have crappy season and get less after leading the charge for performance based shares.
 
duckboy33 said:
Ok, it was a reading comprehension issue on your hand and not a matter of sincerity. Got it
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Oh then please explain how I didn't comprehend correctly. You stated the B1G "falls further and further behind the SEC" and then made the claim that "I never said the Big Ten was falling behind".

My theory is that you are bipolar.
 
rfjeff9 said:
I see no incentive for the remaining ACC teams to take less at 300mm. What is the upside for them? Hold the Noles to the contract they signed.

Also that greater % of revenue assumes they earn it. Would be pretty funny for them to have crappy season and get less after leading the charge for performance based shares.
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I see no world where the ACC would agree to less than the 300mm and that's why I find all the reporting on this to be extremely skeptical. I guess FSU and Clemson could feel like they have a legal argument to break the GOR but that is one hell of a risk and the B1G would be incredibly stupid to get involved until it's resolved.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Oh then please explain how I didn't comprehend correctly. You stated the B1G "falls further and further behind the SEC" and then made the claim that "I never said the Big Ten was falling behind".

My theory is that you are bipolar.
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My theory is that you're trolling
 
So reports are that the potential PAC 12 deal would net the member schools around 20 million per year, and that 2-time champ and current big dawg Utah is not happy with that. Also, reports are that Utah and the AZ schools will make a decision together.
 
duckboy33 said:
No more crazy than having USC and Rutgers in the same conference and that's already happened.

The Big Ten really had no choice. The Big Ten as midwest conference falls further and further behind the SEC. The Big Ten as a national conference continues to thrive.
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Indeed. USC/Rutgers are further apart than USC/FSU (roughly a 500 land mile difference between the two trips)
 
Hu War Yu said:
So reports are that the potential PAC 12 deal would net the member schools around 20 million per year, and that 2-time champ and current big dawg Utah is not happy with that. Also, reports are that Utah and the AZ schools will make a decision together.
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That 20mm number was being floated before the meeting yesterday and since then no one has numbers just an idea the deal was less than the Big 12 with subscription incentives that could take them over that amount.
 
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