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Wild Turkey said:
The Big 12 might not be good enough but the B1G might not want to add them at this time either. If they got a definitive no then pride be damned at that point.

I do think their odds of getting a reduced revenue invite to the B1G is decent because the league has created a scheduling nightmare for themselves and might need the additional teams. The good side is that they will make more than they did in the Big 12 but the bad side is they will be making less than USC and UCLA plus with the additional travel costs might net about the same as the Big 12 and be 2nd class citizens to Rutgers, Maryland, Illinois, Northwestern and Minnesota.
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This is what is the shits IMHO. Paying these that amount of money is like putting a gold saddle on a jackass. And a jackass ain't gonna win the Kentucky Derby even if he has a gold saddle on him.
 
duckboy33 said:
USC: Add any of the Big 12 schools and we're leaving.

PAC: Ok, we won't add anyone.

USC: We're leaving anyways

I hate to say it but USC played the conference and left everyone else in a really bad spot.
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Waaay oversimplified.

The conference played itself and started doing so years ago.

First, they pissed USC off years ago. Then, instead of working to repair the relationship, they just continued to do stupid shit that just made things worse. Costing schools millions of dollars in revenue.

They completely fucked up the PAC 12 Network by making it 7 channels instead of 1. So, if someone in SoCal wanted to watch a team from the PAC North that was on the PAC 12 Network, they had to pay for that extra channel. Then they couldn't get hardly any cable or satellite companies to carry it. With Dish, for example, I got the SEC and B1G Networks as part of my basic package, but not PAC 12.

They also de-emphasized football to promote "Olympic sports". So those who actually could get the PAC 12 Network got more Olympic sports than football...even during football season.

They also fucked up by locating their offices in the Bay area rather than LA (the 2nd biggest media market in the country).

Those, among other reasons, are why the conference couldn't get tv deals on par with other P5 conferences, particularly the SEC and B1G.

Everyone knows that when it comes to generating revenue...football is king. It's the cash cow and virtually every other sport is paid for by football. If memory serves, the only non-football sport at USC that doesn't require some form of assistance from football is men's basketball. It's the same at virtually every school that has a football team.

USC is/was the only blue blood football program the conference had. They pissed off their only blue blood in the most important sport, then de-emphasized that sport, then fucked up the conference network and couldn't get good tv deals...and people wonder why USC wanted to gtfo.

As for the thing with Big 12, I forget what it was exactly, but there was something with the GOR where USC had to keep their plan to leave quiet and couldn't announce their intention until they did. They literally announced it the first day they could.

Even the above is an oversimplification but provides a lot more context.

TLDR: The PAC 12 played itself and deserves everything that is happening to it. Especially the schools who kept supporting Larry Scott for years after any serious conference would have told him to fuck off.
 
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Deep Creek said:
And the PAC 12 leftovers are damn sure better looking than UCF
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Excuse you, motherfucker?!?


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trojanfan12 said:
Waaay oversimplified.

The conference played itself and started doing so years ago.

First, they pissed USC off years ago. Then, instead of working to repair the relationship, they just continued to do stupid shit that just made things worse. Costing schools millions of dollars in revenue.

They completely fucked up the PAC 12 Network by making it 7 channels instead of 1. So, if someone in SoCal wanted to watch a team from the PAC North that was on the PAC 12 Network, they had to pay for that extra channel. Then they couldn't get hardly any cable or satellite companies to carry it. With Dish, for example, I got the SEC and B1G Networks as part of my basic package, but not PAC 12.

They also de-emphasized football to promote "Olympic sports". So those who actually could get the PAC 12 Network got more Olympic sports than football...even during football season.

They also fucked up by locating their offices in the Bay area rather than LA (the 2nd biggest media market in the country).

Those, among other reasons, are why the conference couldn't get tv deals on par with other P5 conferences, particularly the SEC and B1G.

Everyone knows that when it comes to generating revenue...football is king. It's the cash cow and virtually every other sport is paid for by football. If memory serves, the only non-football sport at USC that doesn't require some form of assistance from football is men's basketball. It's the same at virtually every school that has a football team.

USC is/was the only blue blood football program the conference had. They pissed off their only blue blood in the most important sport, then de-emphasized that sport, then fucked up the conference network and couldn't get good tv deals...and people wonder why USC wanted to gtfo.

As for the thing with Big 12, I forget what it was exactly, but there was something with the GOR where USC had to keep their plan to leave quiet and couldn't announce their intention until they did. They literally announced it the first day they could.

Even the above is an oversimplification but provides a lot more context.

TLDR: The PAC 12 played itself and deserves everything that is happening to it. Especially the schools who kept supporting Larry Scott for years after any serious conference would have told him to fuck off.
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Bonus TLDR:

It’s Texas’ fault.
 
Kburjr said:
Is UCF magically a P5 school now since it is in the Big 12?
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Technically the P5 doesn't exist and there is only a P2. So at this point call yourself whatever makes you happy as long as it isn't P2 and you don't have a membership card.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Technically the P5 doesn't exist and there is only a P2. So at this point call yourself whatever makes you happy as long as it isn't P2 and you don't have a membership card.
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Great....we're gonna get more folks bitching about pronouns.
 
Kburjr said:
Is UCF magically a P5 school now since it is in the Big 12?
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Wild Turkey said:
Technically the P5 doesn't exist and there is only a P2. So at this point call yourself whatever makes you happy as long as it isn't P2 and you don't have a membership card.
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P3, at least? :noidea:

We all know that the real power schools will never be happy until they've done a Premier League-style breakaway from the poors. I say let's just go ahead and get it over with.

Division 3 will henceforth be known as the Football Association.
D-II will become League 2
FCS will become League 1
G5 and the unwanteds from the current P5 will become the League Championship
And the breakaway schools will become the American Premier Football League

More Nattys will be handed out this way. The Baylors, Vanderbilts, South Carolinas, and Northwesterns will actually have a chance to win a title
 
Wild Turkey said:
Technically the P5 doesn't exist and there is only a P2. So at this point call yourself whatever makes you happy as long as it isn't P2 and you don't have a membership card.
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Yeah, Rutgers and Vandy are "powerful". Playing them would scare the shit out of every MAC, MWC, AAC, etal team. They'd be shaking in their boots when they saw their "power".
 
Hu War Yu said:
P3, at least? :noidea:

We all know that the real power schools will never be happy until they've done a Premier League-style breakaway from the poors. I say let's just go ahead and get it over with.

Division 3 will henceforth be known as the Football Association.
D-II will become League 2
FCS will become League 1
G5 and the unwanteds from the current P5 will become the League Championship
And the breakaway schools will become the American Premier Football League

More Nattys will be handed out this way. The Baylors, Vanderbilts, South Carolinas, and Northwesterns will actually have a chance to win a title
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Amen brother, preach. But, three of those four would still be in the "Premier" league so they really wouldn't have much of a chance.
 
duckboy33 said:
The Big 12 isn't going to be a peer of the Big Ten or SEC but it's going to have playoff access. Call it whatever you want.
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For now.

At some point the SEC and B1G will more than likely form their own playoff and exclude everyone else. I would say within 5 to 10 years just depending on teams from other conferences perform in the playoff.
 
Deep Creek said:
Amen brother, preach. But, three of those four would still be in the "Premier" league so they really wouldn't have much of a chance.
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I can imagine a world where those kinda teams from the current SEC and B1G get demoted cause they suck
 
If B1G does expand, it's looking like the new additions will get 50-60% of what the other team's make. That seems pretty low. If my math is correct 50% of what each team will make from the tv deal is 31.75m. So basically what they would get if they went to the B12.
 
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