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[duckboy33]

If B1G does expand, it's looking like the new additions will get 50-60% of what the other team's make. That seems pretty low. If my math is correct 50% of what each team will make from the tv deal is 31.75m. So basically what they would get if they went to the B12.

My guess is that any new additions will come in with the same deal that Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland got.

 

[duckboy33]

 

[ericd7633]

My guess is that any new additions will come in with the same deal that Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland got.

I'm not sure what share they got, just reporting what people online are saying. 50-60% is a sizeable chunk, especially if it's for 6 years or more.

 

[duckboy33]

I'm not sure what share they got, just reporting what people online are saying. 50-60% is a sizeable chunk, especially if it's for 6 years or more.

They started at a lower rate and each year they got a larger share until the next media cycle. Then they got a full share. That's typically what the Big Ten has done when they expanded. USC/UCLA have been the outliers.

 

[Wild Turkey]

I found this interesting:


So bascially the new additions would be sold to the networks at a discount also because if not then you would think there would be a surplus that would be divided among existing members.

I'm not sure if that USC "attitude" is still prevelent, matters or has any weight.

 

[ericd7633]

They started at a lower rate and each year they got a larger share until the next media cycle. Then they got a full share. That's typically what the Big Ten has done when they expanded. USC/UCLA have been the outliers.

Yeah, I get that, but my question, is what did they start out at? If what's being reported is true, that's pretty massive. 60% potentially? That's just a little over $25m/yr.

 

[Hu War Yu]

I found this interesting:

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So bascially the new additions would be sold to the networks at a discount also because if not then you would think there would be a surplus that would be divided among existing members.

I'm not sure if that USC "attitude" is still prevelent, matters or has any weight.

Congrats Big Ten, you wanted this headache

 

[ericd7633]

I found this interesting:

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So bascially the new additions would be sold to the networks at a discount also because if not then you would think there would be a surplus that would be divided among existing members.

I'm not sure if that USC "attitude" is still prevelent, matters or has any weight.

Yeah, that seems to be the sticking point. Essentially throwing them a bone to join. Having Oregon/UW in the league would obviously be great additions, but if this whole thing is about money, why would the Presidents' agree to take on less?

 

[Wild Turkey]

Congrats Big Ten, you wanted this headache

I'm glad you get it. At this point, I hope the rumors about FSU and Clemson are true and they add them as well because it will absolutely create a monstrosity of a problem for the B1G. Plus I don't think southern players are going to want to play in the B1G so that takes two major recruiting competitors somewhat off the board.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Yeah, that seems to be the sticking point. Essentially throwing them a bone to join. Having Oregon/UW in the league would obviously be great additions, but if this whole thing is about money, why would the Presidents' agree to take on less?

If the deal is like Nebraska and Maryland then short term it sucks but long term it would pay off. From what I've seen the money would be about 40mm and after additional travel costs for all teams they probably are just above what the B12 would pay but they are locked into one of the P2 conferences. They have to look at it as an investment that will pay dividends down the road and just pay their dues.

Now if it is a forever deal then you are joining a conference that is going to be incredibly harder to win and you are going to always be at a huge financial disadvantage to the other members. I doubt that is the case.

What will be interesting is when the next round of contracts comes up and everyone is going to want to be a full member is that going to dilute the package for everyone else? That is a strong possibility.

Hey on the bright side if the ACC breaks up then the SEC looks like a much better home for ND after this shit show and you guys get to be cool again.

 

[Wild Turkey]

News keeps coming out fast.

"The Arizona Board of Regents are set to meet about the conference futures of Arizona and Arizona State, but an opinion has emerged ahead of the discussion.

Tenor changed Wednesday at Arizona State in a matter of 4 hours. ASU President Michael Crow was content with the Pac-12 media rights deal with Apple. But by 2 p.m., talk changed and a board meeting was being discussed for Thursday, Brandon Marcello of 247Sports reported. The undercurrent steering ships: Board wants Arizona and ASU to stick together."

 

[duckboy33]

Yeah, I get that, but my question, is what did they start out at? If what's being reported is true, that's pretty massive. 60% potentially? That's just a little over $25m/yr.

I'm not sure where you are seeing 25M. IIRC, Maryland came it above a 1/2 share. My best guess is they would start around 60% and work their way up. That would start any new additions around 36M which would beat any of their other options.

 

[Deep Creek]

For now.

At some point the SEC and B1G will more than likely form their own playoff and exclude everyone else. I would say within 5 to 10 years just depending on teams from other conferences perform in the playoff.

The B1G is 3-7 in CFP history with all three of those wins coming from Ohio State....and two of them in year 1 of the CFP. Not exactly a stellar "performance" IMO. ACC has "performed" a hell of a lot better in the CFP than the B1G...even if it is all Clem but one loss. Cold hard truth is the SEC is the ONLY conference that has "performed" well in the CFP.

 

[Red_Alert]

If B1G does expand, it's looking like the new additions will get 50-60% of what the other team's make. That seems pretty low. If my math is correct 50% of what each team will make from the tv deal is 31.75m. So basically what they would get if they went to the B12.

It's all about the upside though.

Six years of reduced distribution before they get full share still pays for itself in the long haul. Not to mention the next Big 10 media rights contract will be 2029/2030.

 

[Hu War Yu]

ASU President Michael Crow was content with the Pac-12 media rights deal with Apple.

 

[duckboy33]

Michael Crow doesn't care about sports...he would have signed on to anything

 

[Hu War Yu]

Michael Crow doesn't care about sports...he would have signed on to anything

Okie dokie, then the Big 12 has changed their mind

Utah, Oregon and Washington, come on down

 

[ericd7633]

I'm not sure where you are seeing 25M. IIRC, Maryland came it above a 1/2 share. My best guess is they would start around 60% and work their way up. That would start any new additions around 36M which would beat any of their other options.

60% of their current deal is roughly $25m/yr.

 

[ericd7633]

It's all about the upside though.

Six years of reduced distribution before they get full share still pays for itself in the long haul. Not to mention the next Big 10 media rights contract will be 2029/2030.

Yeah, there is more upside for sure, and starting at that new deal, they will get more. But the more teams, the more those networks have to pony up. I wouldn't expect to see the jump we saw with the last deal.

 

[duckboy33]

60% of their current deal is roughly $25m/yr.

I don't think that's accurate. The 2024-2025 media payout will be north of 60M per team, right?