The remaining pieces, where do they land?

Grant Ward said:
I can come up with homes for the remaining PAC teams, as well as a majority of the ACC. I don't see anyone wanting Boston College and maybe even Syracuse.

22 teams in each could mean 11 team divisions. Play 1 game OOC.

BIG: 22 teams
Cal
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan St
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
North Carolina
Ohio St
Oregon
Penn St
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin

Big 12: 22 teams
Arizona
Arizona St
BYU
Baylor
Cincinnati
Colorado
Georgia Tech
Houston
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Louisville
Oklahoma St
Oregon St
Pittsburgh
TCU
Texas Tech
UCF
Utah
Wake Forest
Washington St
West Virginia

SEC: 22 teams
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Miami
Mississippi St
Missouri
NC State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
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I got pretty much the same realignment.

Pitt -B1G
Stanford - B1G
Virginia - B1G
Virginia Tech - B1G

Georgia Tech - BIG 12
Louisville - BIG 12
Oregon St - BIG 12
Cal - BIG 12
Wake - BIG 12
Wazzu - BIG 12

Clemson - SEC
Duke - SEC
FSU - SEC
Miami - SEC
UNC - SEC
NC State - SEC

B1G - adds 4
BIG 12 - adds 6
SEC - adds 6
 
Kburjr said:
You actually defending that "conferences win natties" statement?
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When one conference is responsible for like 7/8 of all natties this century, there’s something to it
 
Grant Ward said:
I can come up with homes for the remaining PAC teams, as well as a majority of the ACC. I don't see anyone wanting Boston College and maybe even Syracuse.



Big 12: 22 teams
Arizona
Arizona St
BYU
Baylor
Cincinnati
Colorado
Georgia Tech
Houston
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Louisville
Oklahoma St
Oregon St
Pittsburgh
TCU
Texas Tech
UCF
Utah
Wake Forest
Washington St
West Virginia
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I think Syracuse is definitely the better get over Oregon State, their basketball tradition alone gets them in over the Beavers, not to mention having a footprint in the state of NY and another eastern time zone program. SU and WVU also have a trophy game in football that could be marketed.
 
Wild Turkey said:
ND will have no issue filling a schedule.
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Filling a schedule won't be an issue. Filling it with top programs may become an issue with these new mega conferences. I'd guess with the addition of these new schools to the SEC and B1G, it will add one or two extra high profile matchups to their schedules a year.

The need to schedule big OOC matchups to boost your strength of schedule will go out the window for teams in those conferences.
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
Filling a schedule won't be an issue. Filling it with top programs may become an issue with these new mega conferences. I'd guess with the addition of these new schools to the SEC and B1G, it will add one or two extra high profile matchups to their schedules a year.

The need to schedule big OOC matchups to boost your strength of schedule will go out the window for teams in those conferences.
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ND will never have an issue filling it’s schedule with top programs.
 
Grant Ward said:
I can come up with homes for the remaining PAC teams, as well as a majority of the ACC. I don't see anyone wanting Boston College and maybe even Syracuse.

22 teams in each could mean 11 team divisions. Play 1 game OOC.

BIG: 22 teams
Cal
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan St
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
North Carolina
Ohio St
Oregon
Penn St
Purdue
Rutgers
Stanford
UCLA
USC
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin

Big 12: 22 teams
Arizona
Arizona St
BYU
Baylor
Cincinnati
Colorado
Georgia Tech
Houston
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Louisville
Oklahoma St
Oregon St
Pittsburgh
TCU
Texas Tech
UCF
Utah
Wake Forest
Washington St
West Virginia

SEC: 22 teams
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Clemson
Duke
Florida
Florida State
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Miami
Mississippi St
Missouri
NC State
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Virginia Tech
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Wake Forest is a Southern conference type of school that was fortunate to have close enough ties to Duke, UNC and NCSU back in the 1950s so they became a founding member of the ACC. They aren't going to the Big 12.
 
Wild Turkey said:
Don’t want Miami, NC State or Vt.

The SEC selects instead UNC, Virginia and ND.
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problem for the SEC, is that the Big Ten will want those schools too. in a bidding war, the Big Ten will win over the SEC.
 
different rumors of full MWC and Pac 4. PAC 4 and some AAC and some MWC. if the first happens no big movements. if the second happens another domino chain falls.

If i were guessing I would say

Pac west
WSU, OSU, CAL, Stanford, SDSU, Fresno
Pac East
Boise, Colorado State, Wyoming, SMU, Tulane, Memphis (possible UTSA or Tulsa. but id guess 3 teams total from AAC)

AAC could stand at 11 or look to add 1 or 3 for even numbers but not sure those teams exist for them. not sure anyone in Sun Belt is looking to jump. CUSA teams probably arent moving the needle.

7 MWC teams stick together and either invite some CUSA teams like UTEP and or NMSU. but also could look at FCS Montana and Dakota schools.
 
OlyDuck said:
different rumors of full MWC and Pac 4. PAC 4 and some AAC and some MWC. if the first happens no big movements. if the second happens another domino chain falls.

If i were guessing I would say

Pac west
WSU, OSU, CAL, Stanford, SDSU, Fresno
Pac East
Boise, Colorado State, Wyoming, SMU, Tulane, Memphis (possible UTSA or Tulsa. but id guess 3 teams total from AAC)

AAC could stand at 11 or look to add 1 or 3 for even numbers but not sure those teams exist for them. not sure anyone in Sun Belt is looking to jump. CUSA teams probably arent moving the needle.

7 MWC teams stick together and either invite some CUSA teams like UTEP and or NMSU. but also could look at FCS Montana and Dakota schools.
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Truly clown world we are living in when Stanford and Tulane reside in the same conference.
 
Grant Ward said:
Truly clown world we are living in when Stanford and Tulane reside in the same conference.
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i mean i feel the same with Oregon and Maryland and Arizona and UCF but those happened too
 
OlyDuck said:
different rumors of full MWC and Pac 4. PAC 4 and some AAC and some MWC. if the first happens no big movements. if the second happens another domino chain falls.

If i were guessing I would say

Pac west
WSU, OSU, CAL, Stanford, SDSU, Fresno
Pac East
Boise, Colorado State, Wyoming, SMU, Tulane, Memphis (possible UTSA or Tulsa. but id guess 3 teams total from AAC)

AAC could stand at 11 or look to add 1 or 3 for even numbers but not sure those teams exist for them. not sure anyone in Sun Belt is looking to jump. CUSA teams probably arent moving the needle.

7 MWC teams stick together and either invite some CUSA teams like UTEP and or NMSU. but also could look at FCS Montana and Dakota schools.
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MWC makes 4 million per team a year with a 30mm buyout per team.

Looks like the AAC makes 7 million and the buyout is 30 million as well but it's convoluted because its 10mm exit and 27 months notice but people who know more than I do are saying the cost would be 30 million based on what UCONN paid to get out.

A PAC deal with Oregon and Washington was only worth 20 million a team so no way what you are proposing is worth more than 10mm per team.

The math doesn't work unless teams don't have to pay buyouts.
 
Wild Turkey said:
MWC makes 4 million per team a year with a 30mm buyout per team.

Looks like the AAC makes 7 million and the buyout is 30 million as well but it's convoluted because its 10mm exit and 27 months notice but people who know more than I do are saying the cost would be 30 million based on what UCONN paid to get out.

A PAC deal with Oregon and Washington was only worth 20 million a team so no way what you are proposing is worth more than 10mm per team.

The math doesn't work unless teams don't have to pay buyouts.
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unless they re did their clauses i dont think the AAC is that much

the three that just left are paying $18-million over 14 years

if the Pac adds those AAC schools play as a 7 or 8 team conference for 2024 then the MWC buy out drops to 17 and add them for 25 forward.
also there has been a rumor that the PAC 4 is recieving some large sum for some reason that I didnt quite understand of near 400 million. they dont get all of it among the schools so much as for the conference. they could buy out some or part if they so chose.
could also be some sort of MWC dissolvement depending on how many leave. that could be something that CBS and fox want to renegotiate if 9 of the last 11 football champions left the conference. in the history of the conference championship game Boise Fresno and SDSU have accounted for 14 of the 20 participants. depending on who else is included they could be losing a few more of those.
if the can find a deal that at least matches that plus whatever streaming money could still be salvaged from the apple deal they could hit the 10 mil or more.

PS the details came out and it was worth 25 floor with added incentive with subs. so likely closer to 28
 
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