I think that's the whole point. Those were the best teams in the Pac-12 outside of Utah, and now instead of Utah and the occasional Oregon State popping up and having a good year, they've now got OSU, PSU, michigan, Wisconsin, etc. It's now going to be an even tougher go of things.
They’re always the same which doesn’t give you the old they just keep getting worse experience.
From a scheduling standpoint, I can't imagine a year where Oregon would miss OSU, PSU, michigan, USC, Washington, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Any of those teams can beat Oregon in any given year, if not be the favorite over Oregon. Losing 2 conference games will almost certainly mean you're not making the CCG.
tOSU and recent Michigan I’ll buy, not PSU, Wiskey, etc. Like I said, I’ll bet they perform in their new conference about like they did in their old one. Just like A&M and Mizzou have in the SEC. Check out their last 10 years in the Big 12 and compare it to their first 10 in the SEC.
Check out Georgia’s schedule this year versus Auburn’s.
Going back to 2015, Oregon trails OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, michigan, Iowa, and Washington in winning % and they're barely ahead of USC, Michigan State and Minnesota.
The main difference is those 4 PAC teams are 4 of the 5 best teams in the conference. Now they're coming into a conference where they're not going to be, so the schedule will be getting tougher for them. On the flipside, OSU might now miss Wisconsin and Penn State in favor of USC and Washington, which is more or less a wash. The PAC teams are definitely going to have a tougher road.
And more recently, Oregon hasn’t won the PAC 12 Neither have USC, UCLA or Washington. So again, they’ll perform just about the same as they have. The BIG ain’t the murderer’s row Gordon Gee and his ilk claim it is.
The four teams coming from the PAC will make for changes in the B1G, but the Oregon people think the changes will just be impacted by Oregon presence. Wrong!! It will be interesting to see how the schedules develop and how many divisions happen.
Well USC with their Heisman trophy winning QB just lost to Tulane the last time we saw them. Meanwhile Oregon got destroyed by UGA last year while also losing to Washington and Oregon State and barely surviving a mediocre UNC team in the final seconds. I think a good barometer for both teams is Utah, who is built much more like a B1G team than anyone else in the PAC, who is a combined 5-1 vs those two teams the past couple years. They might get there eventually, but neither of them are very close to being on OSU or michigan's level right now.
Saying they'll perform about the same is right, I don't see any of the P12 transplants winning the B1G in the coming years.
In the new system it will be interesting to see how the head to head records play out in terms of playing in the B10 title game. I can see two teams, not Michigan or Ohio State, sneaking into the title game because of weird tiebreakers. Especially in a system where you're not going to play half the league on any given year.
Sure, it wouldn't be surprising. It's happened before obviously, depending on the ups and downs of other teams. I do think the quality of competition in the B1G is going to be particularly challenging early on though. For example, in 2024, USC faces michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and at PSU. I think they drop 2-3 of those games realistically, assuming Fickell doesn't fall on his face (which isn't likely).
That's how the old title used to work if we all remember back prior to the B10 championship game's existence. Two teams who never played, having some weird tiebreaker between a common opponent deciding who won the split title. I expect a LOT more of that in the coming years.
