New B10 schedules released for 2024 and uh...

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

It looks like you guys got JJ and then just said "to hell with QB recruiting" for the next two years. I wouldn't be shocked if you went into the portal for one if Denegal isn't the guy.

Again -- Michigan doesn't recruit like OSU. We also don't pass the ball like OSU. So if a big time QB commits like JJ did, it pushes the others away. Dante Moore is the guy they put all their eggs into his basket, he was a local kid, who was considered a lock. Instead, he was a NIL recruit who went to the highest bidder.
Missing out on him killed our recruiting of a QB his year. Jadyn Davis comes next year. Then the #1 QB and recruit in the country in 2025 Bryce Underwood goes to school 10 minutes from Ann Arbor. I'm crossing my fingers he doesn't turn into another Dante Moore where whoever offers the most money is where he goes.
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Also -- remember -- Michigan runs the ball, as much, if not more than it passes, so it doesn't necessarily showcase the QB like OSU does. It is why we also struggle to sign top WR's.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

it might not be as bad as it looks UT, udub, ducks, SC will have new QBs starting next season. tosu will be the only one returning their QB from this season

When Michigan will be replacing 90% of their starting offense and defense, including their QB -- Ito is going to be a tough year. Michigan will have to re-build to a certain extent. They don't recruit at a level where they can lose that many starters and not see a big drop off.

Next year will definitely be interesting. I wish we had the schedule we have next year in 2023. We'd probably fair much better.

 

[Across The Field]

Again -- Michigan doesn't recruit like OSU. We also don't pass the ball like OSU. So if a big time QB commits like JJ did, it pushes the others away. Dante Moore is the guy they put all their eggs into his basket, he was a local kid, who was considered a lock. Instead, he was a NIL recruit who went to the highest bidder.
Missing out on him killed our recruiting of a QB his year. Jadyn Davis comes next year. Then the #1 QB and recruit in the country in 2025 Bryce Underwood goes to school 10 minutes from Ann Arbor. I'm crossing my fingers he doesn't turn into another Dante Moore where whoever offers the most money is where he goes.
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Also -- remember -- Michigan runs the ball, as much, if not more than it passes, so it doesn't necessarily showcase the QB like OSU does. It is why we also struggle to sign top WR's.

Those are definitely fair points. It's bizarre to me, though, with Harbaugh coming in as a supposed "QB whisperer" that he hasn't had luck with any of his own QBs until just now with JJ. I'm sure QB won't be the only position you'll go to the portal for next year with the OL and RB losses, and you guys seem to do fine there, so I'm not sure you all should be planning on some big down year.

 

[Deep Creek]

Real question should be:

How long until other conferences are fed up with 7-8 from the SEC and B1G make up the 12 team CFP, as no team outside those conferences will get an at large bid.

Just what are they going to do about it?

 

[navamind]

Those are definitely fair points. It's bizarre to me, though, with Harbaugh coming in as a supposed "QB whisperer" that he hasn't had luck with any of his own QBs until just now with JJ. I'm sure QB won't be the only position you'll go to the portal for next year with the OL and RB losses, and you guys seem to do fine there, so I'm not sure you all should be planning on some big down year.

Agreed though they'll still have to replace some pretty significant contributors on offense. Michigan should have a pretty nice receiver group (minus Cornelius Johnson after this season) and Loveland/Barner at TE next year.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Those are definitely fair points. It's bizarre to me, though, with Harbaugh coming in as a supposed "QB whisperer" that he hasn't had luck with any of his own QBs until just now with JJ. I'm sure QB won't be the only position you'll go to the portal for next year with the OL and RB losses, and you guys seem to do fine there, so I'm not sure you all should be planning on some big down year.

They have the #1 QB recruit in the country for 25 in their backyard.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I have to say, looking over the schedules, the schedules they put together for the premier teams are pretty awesome. You can see why TV companies were going to pay top dollar for this.

Exactly ... this is how the SEC and B1G are going to earn their billions. It's divisionless football with the new teams in the conference. Every week there are going to be 3-5 elite games just from those two conferences.

There are also going to be more losses. You don't go undefeated playing that many good games. There is a reason this all aligns with the 12 team CFP expansion. I've been saying this since 2019 at least. It's going to be hella fun, but also different when you lose a game a realize your season ain't over.

 

[Wizardhawk]

Can't complain about schedules and boast about that media rights cash at the same time.

For the two getting just $30 million/yr + $1 million/yr raise through 2030.....

Oregon

2024: Michigan, Ohio St, UCLA, Washington, (Wisconsin?)
2025: Penn St, Washington, USC, (Wisconsin?)
2026: Michigan, Ohio St, USC, UCLA, Washington, (Nebraska?)
2027: Michigan, Ohio St, Penn St, UCLA, Washington, (Nebraska?)

Washington

2024: Penn St, Michigan, Oregon, UCLA, USC
2025: Michigan, Ohio St, UCLA, Oregon, (Wisconsin?)
2026: Penn St, Oregon, USC, (Nebraska?)
2027: Penn St, Oregon, USC, (Nebraska)

Who knows where these programs will be going forward with current first year or interim coaches, so I question them as big tv games for Oregon/Washington. They're all currently hot garbage.

Nebraska (Rhule)
Wisconsin (Fickell)
Purdue (Walters)
Northwestern (Current Interim)
Michigan St (Current Interim).

The novelty will help with viewership the first year or two. Lots of matchups either never seen before, or rare.

I'll for sure be looking to go to Penn State next year for UW's trip there since my son is a PSU grad.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Those are definitely fair points. It's bizarre to me, though, with Harbaugh coming in as a supposed "QB whisperer" that he hasn't had luck with any of his own QBs until just now with JJ. I'm sure QB won't be the only position you'll go to the portal for next year with the OL and RB losses, and you guys seem to do fine there, so I'm not sure you all should be planning on some big down year.

When I say a down year -- I'm thinking like 3-4 losses with the gauntlet of teams we play next year. We have a lot of depth, but the key positions are where we lack depth, like QB. Michigan is not like an Alabama where you can have a mediocre QB and still compete with the elite programs.

Harbaugh missing on QB's is what hindered UM in the beginning of the Harbaugh era. Peters could make all the throws, but he was a statue in the pocket. Pocket presence is just not something you can teach. McCaffrey had all the tools to be a great QB, but he could not put on weight and in less than a full games worth of snaps at UM, he broke his collarbone and had a concussion so severe, it knocked him out for the year. Joe Milton was always going to be a huge project and he is still one at Tennessee. Cade McNamara was a solid QB, but was nothing more than a game manager.

I'm really hoping Jadyn Davis is the real deal, as the guy is completing like 80% of his passes in high school, which is absurd. And I've got to watch Bryce Underwood multiple times in person -- he is going to be a star. His freshman and sophomore years -- he threw for almost 6,000 yards and 76 tds, while completing 65% of his passes, playing in the highest level of high school football in Michigan. He has a high school record of 33-1 so far. He also showed he could run when he wanted to, by gaining 700 yards on the ground as a sophomore.

Crazy part is -- He is the first african american kid I've ever seen named Bryce. He is already 6'3" 210 lbs as a sophomore. Whoever gets him will be getting a special QB.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

The novelty will help with viewership the first year or two. Lots of matchups either never seen before, or rare.

I'll for sure be looking to go to Penn State next year for UW's trip there since my son is a PSU grad.

Watch how much the viewership for Washington games will increase when you play B1G teams. We have massive viewership numbers, even for the middle of the road teams. And if you play a Penn State, a Michigan, an Ohio State -- you will see 4, 5, 6+ million viewers for those games, even if it is just a game in the middle of the season.

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

They have the #1 QB recruit in the country for 25 in their backyard.

Unfortunately, we also had one of the top QB's in the country right down the road in Dante Moore, in 2022. NIL changed everything. Moore was a lock to UM, then he was a lock to go to Oregon, then he finally switched to UCLA.

With Underwood, his family did not like our former QB coach. They flat out said as much. It was to the point Underwood wouldn't even go to UM on unofficial visits, even though it was 10-15 minutes from home. We have a new one and the family loves him and he has been to UM on a ton of visits and says he talks with UM almost daily. (When permitted)

If UM gets him -- we'd be set at QB for 2-3 years. I think he could be a kid who starts right out the gate. He has the size, athleticism and arm. The team he plays on has only lost 1 game in his high school career and he has started from his 1st day as a freshman. Only issue with his team is -- they are a street ball type of team and don't play very disciplined. That won't fly in college.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Unfortunately, we also had one of the top QB's in the country right down the road in Dante Moore, in 2022. NIL changed everything. Moore was a lock to UM, then he was a lock to go to Oregon, then he finally switched to UCLA.

With Underwood, his family did not like our former QB coach. They flat out said as much. It was to the point Underwood wouldn't even go to UM on unofficial visits, even though it was 10-15 minutes from home. We have a new one and the family loves him and he has been to UM on a ton of visits and says he talks with UM almost daily. (When permitted)

If UM gets him -- we'd be set at QB for 2-3 years. I think he could be a kid who starts right out the gate. He has the size, athleticism and arm. The team he plays on has only lost 1 game in his high school career and he has started from his 1st day as a freshman. Only issue with his team is -- they are a street ball type of team and don't play very disciplined. That won't fly in college.

Would be a massive kick in the nuts not to get him. Harbaugh has gotta be putting all his efforts into making sure that kid stays home

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

Would be a massive kick in the nuts not to get him. Harbaugh has gotta be putting all his efforts into making sure that kid stays home

Dante Moore was ranked just as high as Bryce Underwood was (Dante was the #2 or #3 QB and the #4 player overall nationally). It is tough to get these big time QB's with NIL now -- EVERY SCHOOL will be throwing life changing dollar figures at these kids, who come from nothing. Dante Moore lived in inner city Detroit.

Belleville, where Underwood plays, isn't some wealthy suburb, like Ann Arbor is. So it will take some NIL money to get him to commit I think. Word was, Dante Moore had a 1.2 million dollar offer from Oregon and UCLA beat it and he went to UCLA. If it comes down to a bidding war -- I'm not sure you will see UM getting the nod.

Then again -- these are all rumors, so who knows what is real and what isn't. I can tell you this. Belleville, even with it location right by UM, has sent more players to play at MSU, than UM. So at one point, they thought MSU would have more of a shot to get him than UM.

The state of Michigan is bizarre with recruiting. We have certain areas of the state that are MSU areas and the football/basketball commits mostly end up going to MSU. Then you have areas in Michigan that are Michigan areas and those kids end up at Michigan. Then you have Detroit and the surrounding metro area and individual schools are tied to one school or the other. Detroit Cass Tech is a Michigan school. Detroit King is mostly a MSU school, though UM has been able to pull quite a few from there.

It is something that sucks when you have two big P5 D1 programs in the state.

 

[Thiefery]

Would be a massive kick in the nuts not to get him. Harbaugh has gotta be putting all his efforts into making sure that kid stays home

fuck that.. he's gonna get stomped in his own house by Arch come September.. and i'll be there in person HOOK EM

 

[Thiefery]

Dante Moore was ranked just as high as Bryce Underwood was (Dante was the #2 or #3 QB and the #4 player overall nationally). It is tough to get these big time QB's with NIL now -- EVERY SCHOOL will be throwing life changing dollar figures at these kids, who come from nothing. Dante Moore lived in inner city Detroit.

Belleville, where Underwood plays, isn't some wealthy suburb, like Ann Arbor is. So it will take some NIL money to get him to commit I think. Word was, Dante Moore had a 1.2 million dollar offer from Oregon and UCLA beat it and he went to UCLA. If it comes down to a bidding war -- I'm not sure you will see UM getting the nod.

Then again -- these are all rumors, so who knows what is real and what isn't. I can tell you this. Belleville, even with it location right by UM, has sent more players to play at MSU, than UM. So at one point, they thought MSU would have more of a shot to get him than UM.

The state of Michigan is bizarre with recruiting. We have certain areas of the state that are MSU areas and the football/basketball commits mostly end up going to MSU. Then you have areas in Michigan that are Michigan areas and those kids end up at Michigan. Then you have Detroit and the surrounding metro area and individual schools are tied to one school or the other. Detroit Cass Tech is a Michigan school. Detroit King is mostly a MSU school, though UM has been able to pull quite a few from there.

It is something that sucks when you have two big P5 D1 programs in the state.

what hurts harbaugh is...andrew luck was a lifetime ago to some of these kids.. they haven't seen UM ball out with a QB. Now I think Jim has the right formula but he's gonna have to change it up offensively a bit to attract a QB like this.

 

[fishinabarrel]

what hurts harbaugh is...andrew luck was a lifetime ago to some of these kids.. they haven't seen UM ball out with a QB. Now I think Jim has the right formula but he's gonna have to change it up offensively a bit to attract a QB like this.

If he wants to come a little further south, Ohio State will have some receivers for him I'm sure. If Stroud keeps playing the way he is playing, that should help Ohio State as well.

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

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Has there been any word if the UW/Oregon rivalry will be played at the end of the year yet? If they try to force the apple cup and civil war at the end of the year I’ll be annoyed.

 

[DayButtAssMans’s]

The novelty will help with viewership the first year or two. Lots of matchups either never seen before, or rare.

I'll for sure be looking to go to Penn State next year for UW's trip there since my son is a PSU grad.

Tell your son I say

 

[NewPhoneWhoDis]

what hurts harbaugh is...andrew luck was a lifetime ago to some of these kids.. they haven't seen UM ball out with a QB. Now I think Jim has the right formula but he's gonna have to change it up offensively a bit to attract a QB like this.

Not at all -- has nothing to do with that. UM hasn't had an issue signing QB's. Hell -- Joe Milton was his recruit, he is starting Tennessee. Cade McNamara was his recruit, he won a B1G title and was starting at Iowa. JJ McCarthy is his recruit.

What happened with Harbaugh is -- he got to UM late, had no QB in his "first class" and UM had a bare cupboard. So he started going the transfer route. His first QB recruit flopped in Brandon Peters, though he went on to start at Illinois a few years. Dylan McCaffrey was a big get, but he simply couldn't put on weight and couldn't stay healthy. Those two put us behind and we had no choice but to go the transfer portal route.

WR has been UM's biggest issue getting to UM. Which is why getting Xavier Worthy was such a big deal for UM. Then our admin office wouldn't allow him to enroll early because of a high school credit, yet Texas let him in immediately the next week. Michigan is ARCHAIC in the way they treat academics and admissions. It is exhausting.

 

[gobigred]

When I say a down year -- I'm thinking like 3-4 losses with the gauntlet of teams we play next year. We have a lot of depth, but the key positions are where we lack depth, like QB. Michigan is not like an Alabama where you can have a mediocre QB and still compete with the elite programs.

Harbaugh missing on QB's is what hindered UM in the beginning of the Harbaugh era. Peters could make all the throws, but he was a statue in the pocket. Pocket presence is just not something you can teach. McCaffrey had all the tools to be a great QB, but he could not put on weight and in less than a full games worth of snaps at UM, he broke his collarbone and had a concussion so severe, it knocked him out for the year. Joe Milton was always going to be a huge project and he is still one at Tennessee. Cade McNamara was a solid QB, but was nothing more than a game manager.

I'm really hoping Jadyn Davis is the real deal, as the guy is completing like 80% of his passes in high school, which is absurd. And I've got to watch Bryce Underwood multiple times in person -- he is going to be a star. His freshman and sophomore years -- he threw for almost 6,000 yards and 76 tds, while completing 65% of his passes, playing in the highest level of high school football in Michigan. He has a high school record of 33-1 so far. He also showed he could run when he wanted to, by gaining 700 yards on the ground as a sophomore.

Crazy part is -- He is the first african american kid I've ever seen named Bryce. He is already 6'3" 210 lbs as a sophomore. Whoever gets him will be getting a special QB.

Unfortunately, we also had one of the top QB's in the country right down the road in Dante Moore, in 2022. NIL changed everything. Moore was a lock to UM, then he was a lock to go to Oregon, then he finally switched to UCLA.

With Underwood, his family did not like our former QB coach. They flat out said as much. It was to the point Underwood wouldn't even go to UM on unofficial visits, even though it was 10-15 minutes from home. We have a new one and the family loves him and he has been to UM on a ton of visits and says he talks with UM almost daily. (When permitted)

If UM gets him -- we'd be set at QB for 2-3 years. I think he could be a kid who starts right out the gate. He has the size, athleticism and arm. The team he plays on has only lost 1 game in his high school career and he has started from his 1st day as a freshman. Only issue with his team is -- they are a street ball type of team and don't play very disciplined. That won't fly in college.

Dante Moore was ranked just as high as Bryce Underwood was (Dante was the #2 or #3 QB and the #4 player overall nationally). It is tough to get these big time QB's with NIL now -- EVERY SCHOOL will be throwing life changing dollar figures at these kids, who come from nothing. Dante Moore lived in inner city Detroit.

Belleville, where Underwood plays, isn't some wealthy suburb, like Ann Arbor is. So it will take some NIL money to get him to commit I think. Word was, Dante Moore had a 1.2 million dollar offer from Oregon and UCLA beat it and he went to UCLA. If it comes down to a bidding war -- I'm not sure you will see UM getting the nod.

Then again -- these are all rumors, so who knows what is real and what isn't. I can tell you this. Belleville, even with it location right by UM, has sent more players to play at MSU, than UM. So at one point, they thought MSU would have more of a shot to get him than UM.

The state of Michigan is bizarre with recruiting. We have certain areas of the state that are MSU areas and the football/basketball commits mostly end up going to MSU. Then you have areas in Michigan that are Michigan areas and those kids end up at Michigan. Then you have Detroit and the surrounding metro area and individual schools are tied to one school or the other. Detroit Cass Tech is a Michigan school. Detroit King is mostly a MSU school, though UM has been able to pull quite a few from there.

It is something that sucks when you have two big P5 D1 programs in the state.

Not at all -- has nothing to do with that. UM hasn't had an issue signing QB's. Hell -- Joe Milton was his recruit, he is starting Tennessee. Cade McNamara was his recruit, he won a B1G title and was starting at Iowa. JJ McCarthy is his recruit.

What happened with Harbaugh is -- he got to UM late, had no QB in his "first class" and UM had a bare cupboard. So he started going the transfer route. His first QB recruit flopped in Brandon Peters, though he went on to start at Illinois a few years. Dylan McCaffrey was a big get, but he simply couldn't put on weight and couldn't stay healthy. Those two put us behind and we had no choice but to go the transfer portal route.

WR has been UM's biggest issue getting to UM. Which is why getting Xavier Worthy was such a big deal for UM. Then our admin office wouldn't allow him to enroll early because of a high school credit, yet Texas let him in immediately the next week. Michigan is ARCHAIC in the way they treat academics and admissions. It is exhausting.