More Michigan Cheating

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
yeah, conclusive evidence for sure. A white guy in sunglasses and a hat, there's none of those around in Mid-michigan....
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Again, it’s not absolute. But pretending it doesn’t give any credence to these allegations is just foolish ignorance at this point.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Good how about you?
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I'm well, thanks for asking.
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Lots of people claiming to know what's going on when the NCAA hasn't even issued a notice of allegations yet. Expecting any of these entities to act on rumors is both stupid and sets a wild precedent.
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My point is that this recklessness is nothing new with the media and this scandal is hardly even important relative to all the other issues our media covers.

Journalism with integrity is dead.
 
Here's a fun read for a deep dive into how delusional Michigan fans are over this

B1G coaches "urge action" from Tony Petitti | mgoblog

Thought this was an interesting article that was recently published. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38798293/big-ten-coach…
mgoblog.com mgoblog.com

From They are going to SUE THE B1G and go to the SEC! The B1G needs Michigan, but Michigan doesn't need them!!!!

To "SUE THE NEWS AND MAKE THEM REVEAL THEIR ANONYMOUS SOURCES!"

Fun all around.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Again, it’s not absolute. But pretending it doesn’t give any credence to these allegations is just foolish ignorance at this point.
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It doesn't. It literally started on Twitter. And the original rumor was that he was helping CMU steal signs of MSU. Weird how that morphed away from that since then, almost like it's a rumor?

Unless they have more than bigfoot images of a white guy on the sideline, there is literally nothing to this but a story running wild with speculation (which is exactly what they want out of this).
 
osubuckeye89 said:
Here's a fun read for a deep dive into how delusional Michigan fans are over this

B1G coaches "urge action" from Tony Petitti | mgoblog

Thought this was an interesting article that was recently published. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38798293/big-ten-coach…
mgoblog.com mgoblog.com

From They are going to SUE THE B1G and go to the SEC! The B1G needs Michigan, but Michigan doesn't need them!!!!

To "SUE THE NEWS AND MAKE THEM REVEAL THEIR ANONYMOUS SOURCES!"

Fun all around.
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In this era of football, I don't think this is particularly far off; especially with the money involved now. Bet people would have laughed at the pac12 dying at this point in 2022.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
In this era of football, I don't think this is particularly far off; especially with the money involved now.
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The B1G would be just fine without Michigan. Bailing out of the B1G and begging and pleading for the SEC to take them would be a very poor strategy, they'd be liable to end up in the ACC
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
It doesn't. It literally started on Twitter. And the original rumor was that he was helping CMU steal signs of MSU. Weird how that morphed away from that since then, almost like it's a rumor?

Unless they have more than bigfoot images of a white guy on the sideline, there is literally nothing to this but a story running wild with speculation (which is exactly what they want out of this).
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Just so I’m getting this right, you actually believe he is helping CMU while the game is happening and not before? That in this instance he is doing this for CMU and no one else?

Again, this speculation gives credence to the allegations. You are trying to convince yourself this is a witch hunt when in actuality it looks like a huge reason why Michigan started to get nationally relevant again.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Have you noticed that every link you put on this in from Michigan writers? The one you didn't was from Finebaum who has no changed his mind
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The media is just supposed to sit idle and allow Michigan's elaborate cheating scheme to continue unchecked! How dare they report on it!
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
I don't make the lists. CBS sports is one who did. #1 for who should replace McDaniels, they have Harbaugh.

He is always at the top of the lists, as you simply don't see a coach put up a record like he did in the NFL, only to go back to college.
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Well most people don't piss off their employees quite like Harbaugh can even when he is successful
 
fishinabarrel said:
Have you noticed that every link you put on this in from Michigan writers? The one you didn't was from Finebaum who has no changed his mind
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Have you noticed how all the other sources you're quoting are either ESPN or Ohio State/Michigan State/Notre Dame affiliates? Huh, weird.
 
ralphiewvu said:
Just so I’m getting this right, you actually believe he is helping CMU while the game is happening and not before? That in this instance he is doing this for CMU and no one else?

Again, this speculation gives credence to the allegations. You are trying to convince yourself this is a witch hunt when in actuality it looks like a huge reason why Michigan started to get nationally relevant again.
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I don't believe that's him. I think the internet searched every sideline and found some dude that kinda looked like him and then crafted a story around this guy to make it seem suspicious. If it is, the allegations originally were that he was on the sideline helping CMU. That's what the "anonymous" B10 coach claimed in the original leak. So the fact that it quickly changed from that, should tell you everything you need to know about your sources.
 
fishinabarrel said:
Well most people don't piss off their employees quite like Harbaugh can even when he is successful
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That is true. To run one of these huge programs or coach in the NFL -- you have to have some sort of huge ego, unless you are Dan Campbell with the Lions.

It is no question Harbaugh is not an easy guy to be around, but his players absolutely love him. So he is doing something right in that regard.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I don't believe that's him. I think the internet searched every sideline and found some dude that kinda looked like him and then crafted a story around this guy to make it seem suspicious. If it is, the allegations originally were that he was on the sideline helping CMU. That's what the "anonymous" B10 coach claimed in the original leak. So the fact that it quickly changed from that, should tell you everything you need to know about your sources.
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I would be more apt to believe this if he weren’t wearing sunglasses that had a little blue light that went on and off during a night game. All the while he tries to hide (ducks his head when a player goes out of bounds toward him, as DP just said on his national radio show) his face. The fact that there is literally video of this isn’t some hearsay BS. But to each their own
 
ralphiewvu said:
I would be more apt to believe this if he weren’t wearing sunglasses that had a little blue light that went on and off during a night game. All the while he tries to hide (ducks his head when a player goes out of bounds toward him, as DP just said on his national radio show) his face. The fact that there is literally video of this isn’t some hearsay BS. But to each their own
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It wasn't on during the game. It was like in one screen grab of the blurry image. And most likely just a lense flare or glare on the actual glasses. I'm also not sure the normal reaction to players coming at you isn't to just hide your head so you don't get smacked in the face. All pretty lame circumstantial stuff if you ask me.

The ONLY thing that is truly odd is that CMU doesn't seem to know who it was and how they got sideline passes. But I'm not sure how hard it is to get sideline passes to a MAC game on a random Friday.
 
ralphiewvu said:
I would be more apt to believe this if he weren’t wearing sunglasses that had a little blue light that went on and off during a night game. All the while he tries to hide (ducks his head when a player goes out of bounds toward him, as DP just said on his national radio show) his face. The fact that there is literally video of this isn’t some hearsay BS. But to each their own
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If it was just some random CMU employee they woulda just came out and said it was. It would be easy for someone at CMU to say "Oh thats just Tom" or whatever and that woulda killed the story, but that didn't happen.
 
osubuckeye89 said:
If it was just some random CMU employee they woulda just came out and said it was. It would be easy for someone at CMU to say "Oh thats just Tom" or whatever and that woulda killed the story, but that didn't happen.
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This is the only odd part, but given he had a visitors badge I'm not sure how conclusive that really is. Do they know the name of every single person who has a sideline pass?
 
osubuckeye89 said:
No way in hell any NFL team touches Harbaugh if all of this shakes out as bad as it could.
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Huh? What exactly do you think is going to happen?

And NFL teams send scouts to all their future opponents games -- so even if it came out that it was all ordered by Harbaugh, the NFL couldn't care less. NFL teams want to win. That is what Harbaugh has done at every stop he has coached at, from FCS to FBS to the NFL and back at Michigan. The part is the NFL cares about -- the winning at the NFL level.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Video evidence of what? There's literally no evidence we have. There's just entirely claims by anonymous sources. We're down to analysing an image of a guy on the sideline that looks like Stallions, like a fing big foot documentary.
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Oh you are worried about the CMU. Yeah I get why you would still be worried. I was speaking in general.
 
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