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Come on man, the obsessive psycho who's obsessed with Michigan football would never lie about such things
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Come on man, the obsessive psycho who's obsessed with Michigan football would never lie about such things
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Weird that literally no fact supports this opinion.
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Michigan couldn’t beat Ohio State. That’s it. That’s the difference in the last three years and the first 6.
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There isn’t a shred of evidence that supports this. You think they were able to cover this up while the guy doing it was venmoing people on his public profile?Come on man, the obsessive psycho who's obsessed with Michigan football would never lie about such things
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So this was true in 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2020 when beating OSU would've resulted in michigan not winning the Big Ten? Or do those 4 years not count as part of the "first 6"?
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I say when the NCAA releases its report you will see that Stallions was not paying for the entire scheme on his own. If he was, then you win. If not then I win.
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Michigan struggled to get to 10 wins the first 6 years, failing to do so half the time. Then all of a sudden they couldn't lose. It wasn't about one game, it was about all the tough ones.
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So just to be clear, in 5 of Harbaugh's 9 seasons at Michigan (a majority, mind you), beating Ohio State would have resulted in winning the division. 3/5 of those seasons (1/3 of his time at Michigan), Harbaugh did it and won the division. In 4 out of 9 seasons, that isn't true (a minority).
And in 2015 that was only true because of the famed "trouble with the snap" game. Otherwise it would have been 6/9 seasons at Michigan.
So, to be extra clear, you're trying to use a minority of the seasons he was at Michigan to illustrate your point.
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lol what? Michigan got to 10 wins 3/4 of his first 4 seasons at Michigan. Nice try though.
Remove the covid year and his worst seasons were 8 and 9 wins.
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What are we betting? And are we betting that this gets connected to the school or other coaching staff financially or just that stallions wasn't paying all on his own? Because if a booster was helping, that's entirely different than if the school or a coach was helping; which was your original claim here.
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Well you're actually not being clear. You've stated multiple times that the "ONLY difference" between michigan's last 3 years and previous 6 was beating Ohio State:
I pointed out that you could've beaten OSU all 6 years and only even played for the Big Ten title twice. This is a fact that proves you completely wrong when you say the "ONLY difference" between the last 3 years and first 6 was beating Ohio State. Clearly you were nowhere near as good as the last 3 when you were cheating, which were also the only 3 years you beat Ohio State and played for the Big Ten title.
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Given that it applied to a good number of seasons prior to 2021, what I said was exactly true. Michigan didn't go from bad to good. Michigan went from good to beating Ohio State.
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Except it didn't. 2 out of 6 seasons is not a "good number", it's actually a strong statistical improbability. michigan went from an underachieving team that was not likely to even be a factor in the Big Ten to cheating to finally get over the hump.
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That's literally 1/3 of the seasons prior to 2021; and includes the covid year.
Michigan went from 7 and 5 win seasons, to 10 win seasons and a chance to win the B10 by beating Ohio State in 2 years. You'd have a much better argument if the sign stealing started in 2015. But Michigan was good already. Harbaugh had a few bad seasons (specifically 2019 and 2020 back to back) but was otherwise pumping out a really good football team that was in it until the end of the year. Then we started beating Ohio State.
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Yes, only 2/6 seasons could even be moderately compared to the last 3, do you know how math works? Even then they weren't close. The best you ever did was 10 wins, and that only happened in half the first 6 years, then you jumped to 12, 13, and 15 wins out of nowhere once Stallions started cheating. Harbaugh was a better coach than Hoke, congrats I guess?
You're also very casually saying "the only difference was beating Ohio State" when you consider four of Harbaugh's first five games vs OSU were double digit losses by an average of 23 points. The only time he was close was with Hoke's recruits before he started cheating.
Michigan was a good team during Harbaugh earlier years. I have a lot of friends that wanted him fired. After not showing up against ohio state in 2020 (fuck blaming COVID) I was on board with firing Harbaugh. Michigan should never be “a good” team, we are a Blue Blood. The difference was the players. The best thing that could have happened to Michigan was the loss to TCU. They have never took anyone for granted since then. Our players appear to be stronger in the 4th quarter than the 1st quarter. That is due to capable backups, preparation, conditioning and training.
We will have to see how this year plays out. Realistically, I would be content with an 8-4 record.
Y’all with this cheating thing, they were under the microscope most of last year and so far this year.
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....and then Urban left, Day was put in place and Harbaugh gutted his entire defensive staff and was given two guys by his brother who saved the defense; and stopped Ohio State from putting up embarrassing numbers on us (who are both now NFL defensive coordinators)
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...so, as I've proven, the last 3 years came out of nowhere since we've established that the majority of the time beating OSU (which you were only even remotely close to doing once our of five times) still wouldn't have even seen michigan make the Big Ten title game, let alone make the CFP.
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lol what? You mean, other than all the other years of really good teams and winning, they came out of nowhere I tell you!
If sign stealing information had any impact on Michigan's team, you would have seen a dropoff when Stallions quit -- not one of the best 6-8 game runs in Michigan football history.
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They were fine, but it certainly wasn't what was expected considering his coaching history. You can take the Covid year out of the equation if you want, and michigan was still on average a 9-4ish team.