I don't disagree but it is going to be an interesting case because it will actually be case law to support tampering claims if the MWC wins. If the MWC loses then it opens the door for conferences to recruit schools at will with no liability.
You aren’t a serious person if you think any of those teams would be a favorite or a top 2 team in the new Pac. I’m not out of my depth at all, the Big 12 is really Utah and the rest.
Hmm, maybe you are right but that’s not how any of the reporting has gone down.
They have a leg to stand on, but it is weak as hell that they are suing them.
4 of the teams I mentioned plus Utah are currently ranked and higher then every team in this new mid major you are creating. Shit 2 of them even have a loss and are still ranked over the undefeated team you think is Gods gift to the earth. There is absolutely no one in the new PAC that would be top 2 in the B12 while the B12 yearly would sweep the top 2 with about 6 teams.
I know this was several years ago, but people still have short memories. I recall Utah, Boise State and TCU being the G5s that made a lot of racket and were a pain in the ass to many in the P5s at the time. Fast forward a few years and Utah and TCU have had access to P5 money. That difference in revenue probably helped separate them. Had Boise been able to access P5 (now Middle 2) at that time, they would now resemble Utah and TCU.
That is precisely why I stated his comment was asinine. Yes B12 teams have gotten more, so to assume any wouldn’t win much less compete with this new PAC is insane.
Na im taking WSU Boise Fresno and Oregon State over all those teams at at least a 1-3 for any of them. I dont think any of those teams would take 2 among those 4.
We’ll agree to disagree, I don’t believe any of those teams you listed sniff a top 2 finish in the current B12. While all those teams I listed are competing yearly in the top 2 of this new PAC.
No doubt those four can beat some of the Big 12 teams. But like the drum the SEC guys like to beat, the week in week out grind in the Big 12>than the PAC2/MWC grind IMO.
this isnt really a good argument as the pollsters will always look at a "P4 team" and value their 3-0 record or 1 loss over that of a "G6" who may have a better record and resume
Oregon State and WSU have done a better grind when they played in the PAC than the current BIGXII
i feel like there are 3 different arguments here to separate.
I mean what argument can you use on this??? This is all opinion based. But I find it absolutely insane you are trying to say teams like Kansas State and Oklahoma state who competed with Texas and OU to make conference championships aren't doing that against the like of Fresno st, Boise st, wazzou and osu.
Calling this new PAC superior to the B12 is laughable. Pretending current B12 teams wouldn't compete yearly for top 2 in this new PAC is laughable.
And just how well did they do in that "grind"?
agree pollsters give too much credit to conference affiliation. So, I'm going to make a portion of your argument for you. Too much credit is being given for the wins over, Houston, Texas Tech and Kansas. Those three ain't too swift this year. Same goes for wins over Pudue and Washington.
I agree but aren't all of these (and others) conjecture? Even when you line up conferences and play head to head like some of the conferences in basketball do (ACC/B1G challenge, Big 12/SEC challenge, etc.), it still isn't all that clear. A lot depends on who you play when, where, injuries, slumps, hot streaks, etc.