I thought we had a "fuck Bikers" thread.

ill said:
I agree, the biker should have braked and nothing else would have happened.

the driver should have been aware the biker was there though.
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Sure, but do we know the driver didn't know he was there? He got over in front of the biker, not his fault the biker closed the distance then failed to stop. The car has to stop for a van changing lanes, so this goes fully to the cyclist.
 
I’d love for a cyclist to come raising hell, hitting my truck and trying to open my door. He would never be found and the world would be a better place
 
fordman84 said:
Sure, but do we know the driver didn't know he was there? He got over in front of the biker, not his fault the biker closed the distance then failed to stop. The car has to stop for a van changing lanes, so this goes fully to the cyclist.
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it looks like pretty slow speed...the cyclist isn't even pedaling. The car cuts off the bike then immediately brakes.

if I am in a car behind that car, I am throwing my hands up as well and would have to slam on the brakes...I know rearending someone is the fault of the car in the back and you need to be aware, but the car coming over should have used a signal

in the end, no harm done.
 
fordman84 said:
Biker is in the wrong. The car made a lane change during a dotted section indicating legal lane changes can be done. Should have used a signal but the cyclist should have fallen back and then paid attention. The cyclist was too busy either giving the finger or fixing his hair, can't tell, to apply the brakes in a safely manner.
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Yeah. I'm not so sure the biker even hit the back of the car.
It's as if he hit his front brake instead of his back brake causing the bike to flip. LOL
 
ill said:
I agree, the biker should have braked and nothing else would have happened.

the driver should have been aware the biker was there though.
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Agree.
 
Godstree said:
Sped up and hit car from behind. Could have stopped but he took his hand off break.
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biking in a city and in traffic is different...and I think his focus was on not having to stop his bike and just coast.

had the car not slammed on the brakes, he likely would have been fine.
 
Red_Alert said:
Yeah. I'm not so sure the biker even hit the back of the car.
It's as if he hit his front brake instead of his back brake causing the bike to flip. LOL
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That's way it looked to me. He took hand off break. Right hand back break, right?
 
Godstree said:
That's way it looked to me. He took hand off break. Right hand back break, right?
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I think he put his hand there to basically maintain the same speed as the car.

when the car suddenly went to a complete stop, the cyclist had only his left hand brake, which is his front pedal, which is why the bike flipped like it did.

had his left hand been resting on the car, he would have had his rear brake available to help him slow better...
 
ill said:
biking in a city and in traffic is different...and I think his focus was on not having to stop his bike and just coast.

had the car not slammed on the brakes, he likely would have been fine.
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Yes he did stop but both vehicle and bike had plenty of time. Not moving fast and the did travel a small distance.

if the biker was paying more attention he could have anticipated the situation as that happens at that type of back up situation almost always.

Just cause you have frustrating event, damn now I gotta pedal again, shouldn't raise your ire. I mean, after all, your biking for fitness. Should celebrate such opportunities.
 
Godstree said:
Yes he did stop but both vehicle and bike had plenty of time. Not moving fast and the did travel a small distance.

if the biker was paying more attention he could have anticipated the situation as that happens at that type of back up situation almost always.

Just cause you have frustrating event, damn now I gotta pedal again, shouldn't raise your ire. I mean, after all, your biking for fitness. Should celebrate such opportunities.
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I get why the biker was pissed...but he also needs to be understanding in situations like that.

his reaction is more road rage than anything else.
 
ill said:
it looks like pretty slow speed...the cyclist isn't even pedaling. The car cuts off the bike then immediately brakes.

if I am in a car behind that car, I am throwing my hands up as well and would have to slam on the brakes...I know rearending someone is the fault of the car in the back and you need to be aware, but the car coming over should have used a signal

in the end, no harm done.
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I agree the car should have signaled. However, the biker seems like one of those people who refuses to let someone in ahead of them. Their time and destination is more important than everyone else's.

It reminds me of the 'intended' zipper effect for on-ramps or construction zones. They're meant to keep traffic moving. However, there are people who just simply refuse to let someone merge in.
"YoU'Re nOt GeTTiNg aHeAd Of mE FuCkEr"
 
Red_Alert said:
I agree the car should have signaled. However, the biker seems like one of those people who refuses to let someone in ahead of them. Their time and destination is more important than everyone else's.

It reminds me of the 'intended' zipper effect for on-ramps or construction zones. They're meant to keep traffic moving. However, there are people who just simply refuse to let someone merge in.
"YoU'Re nOt GeTTiNg aHeAd Of mE FuCkEr"
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meh, typical traffic shit, IMO. Neither party was 100% right in their actions and neither "owns" the road.

Luckily it was all slow speed stuff
 
ill said:
meh, typical traffic shit, IMO. Neither party was 100% right in their actions and neither "owns" the road.

Luckily it was all slow speed stuff
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Yep. Could have been way different.
 
ill said:
it looks like pretty slow speed...the cyclist isn't even pedaling. The car cuts off the bike then immediately brakes.

if I am in a car behind that car, I am throwing my hands up as well and would have to slam on the brakes...I know rearending someone is the fault of the car in the back and you need to be aware, but the car coming over should have used a signal

in the end, no harm done.
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If I'm on the bike I'm smart enough to know that I can only brake with my hands and I'm not throwing them up in the air, for the reason we see here.

If the cyclist wasn't trying to be so demonstrative he easily stops in time.
 
ill said:
meh, typical traffic shit, IMO. Neither party was 100% right in their actions and neither "owns" the road.

Luckily it was all slow speed stuff
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In the end the responsibility falls to the cyclist. Sure with this video the biker could go to the police and the driver would get a failure to signal ticket. The biker would get a failure to maintain safe distance ticket.

But...the cyclist is the one that has to anticipate the bad driving of all those around him. Same as motorcycle drivers and even car drivers. Can't even count the number of accidents I've avoided because <knock on wood> I was paying attention to my surroundings and avoided the bad drivers. There are a lot of cyclists in the cemetery who were completely in the right. Think "right of way" matters to them?
 
fordman84 said:
If I'm on the bike I'm smart enough to know that I can only brake with my hands and I'm not throwing them up in the air, for the reason we see here.

If the cyclist wasn't trying to be so demonstrative he easily stops in time.
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Yeah. If I'm on a bicycle I'm far more cautious in traffic like that than if I'm in a car.

That cyclist thought he owned the road.

"How dare you get in front of me?"

Like the video prior to that where that cyclist also thought he owned the road, it was.......

"How dare you pass me?"
 
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