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SOS in the parens. Those with parens are actually in the CFP hunt.

So, here we go ... B1G has 4 of the top 5. I think that UO and tOSU are legit. I would love to play Indiana or PSU.

With Bama, Ole Miss, and UGA at 9-11 there would be some teams getting round 1 games who would be thinking, really? That's our reward?

That is a lot of teams still in the hunt. I think you have to be 10-2 to get in.

SEC
- LSU was eliminated last night.
- Loser of the UGA UTjr game is out - UGa for sure with 3 losses, UTjr still has a slight shot, but the SEC could have 5 10-2 or better teams and I am not sure they would be in the top 4.
- ATM v. Texas is an elimination game for ATM
- Bama should win out (OU and AU)

SECCG is down to ATM, Tenn, Bama, and Texas.
If ATM and UTjr win out, that is your SECCG. Bama, Ole Miss, and Missouri (if they beat SUCjr) would be the next 3 for the CFP.
If ATM loses, and UTjr wins, it's UTjr v. UT.
If ATM wins, and UTjr loses, it's ATM v. Bama.
If ATM loses, and UTjr loses, it's UT v. Bama

We could have a hell of a logjam if UGA beats UTjr, and Texas beats ATM, and Missouri wins out. That would leave 6 teams @ 10-2 or better:
ATM, Bama, UGA, Missouri, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee. Think about that ... 7 teams that are 10-2 or better, and LSU with 3 losses.

The only way the SEC gets 5 is if the B1G gets 3. With all 4 of their top teams likely to be 10-2 or better, I don't see that. So, who goes from the SEC ... Bama beat UGA, lost to Tenn. Tenn beat Bama but lost to UGA. Texas beat ATM, but lost to UGA. UGA beat Texas and Tenn, but lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Ole Miss will have beaten UGA soundly, but lost to Ky at home and 3 loss LSU. Someone is going to get left out who beat someone who got in. Or UGA is going to get left out with the top SOS in the country and wins over Texas and Tenn.

B1G
- The only decent game left in the B1G is tOSU v. IU. Assuming that tOSU beats IU, it's UO v. tOSU in the B1G.
- It seems to me that all 4 teams get in. Even if tOSU loses for the second time, IU, and OU get ing, and PSU gets in with a loss, and tOSU gets in with 2 losses.

Everyone else - there is no way a second team gets in from the ACC or the B12, ND looks to get in so long as they beat USC, and then the G5.

In my biased opinion, the B1G should get 3, the SEC 5, then the other 4. But I don't see that happening unless tOSU beats the snot out of IU and they get passed by a 10-2 SEC team. Even if tOSU loses, their brand will get them in over UTjr or Ole Miss.

Comparing the SEC with the B1G is really weird and I would love to hear the B1G feedback. You have 4 top teams, and then a bunch of mid after that. The SEC has 8 top/solid teams and then some bad teams. If the SEC only gets 4 and then IU and PSU get crushed that's not going to be good for the B1G.

I could really see this as the impetus for the 14 teams playoff with 2 AQ byes for the SEC and B1G. If we ran this today, UGA with the no. 1 SOS would be out, unless we got in over ND. Now, if we beat Tenn, that's going to switch ... they will drop to a lower 2 loss SEC school.
  1. Oregon (49)
  2. Ohio State (26)
  3. Texas (55)
  4. Penn State (30)
  5. Indiana (100)
  6. Tennessee (35)
  7. BYU (54)
  8. Notre Dame (73)
  9. Alabama (11)
  10. Ole Miss (23)
  11. Georgia (1)
  12. Miami (39)
  13. Boise State (68)
  14. SMU (81)
  15. Texas A&M (21)
  16. Army (133)
  17. Clemson (52)
  18. Colorado (77)
  19. Washington State
  20. Kansas State (42)
  21. LSU
  22. Louisville
  23. South Carolina
  24. Missouri
  25. Tulane
 
I'll be fascinated to see if a 2 loss SEC team that becomes a 3 loss SEC team because of the SECCG gets punished by the committee.
 
There's no shot at SEC getting 5 teams in unless there's a goofy upset in the b1g or ND drops a game

The committee showed that with the initial rankings.
 
11-1 Indiana vs. 10-2 SEC team for the last spot is probably going to be the debate IMO
 
duckboy33 said:
11-1 Indiana vs. 10-2 SEC team for the last spot is probably going to be the debate IMO
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Committee sent pretty strong signals with Indiana's initial ranking that they are in with 1-loss.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
Committee sent pretty strong signals with Indiana's initial ranking that they are in with 1-loss.
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I think their performance vs. Ohio State matters. They don't have to win but if they get run off the field, that might change some minds.
 
duckboy33 said:
I think their performance vs. Ohio State matters. They don't have to win but if they get run off the field, that might change some minds.
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That's fair. Losing by <20 I think keeps them in.
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
I'll be fascinated to see if a 2 loss SEC team that becomes a 3 loss SEC team because of the SECCG gets punished by the committee.
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I don't see that happening. When I said a 3 loss team doesn't get in, I meant that before the CCG.
michaeljordan_fan said:
There's no shot at SEC getting 5 teams in unless there's a goofy upset in the b1g or ND drops a game

The committee showed that with the initial rankings.
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If UGA beats UTjr, and ATM beats Texas, that's too bad because the SEC would have 5 teams better than PSU and IU, IMO.

If we each get 4 and PSU and IU get trucked, we will go to AQs, or to 14 teams in 2026.

It's a weird year. Look at and explain this - I am not sure what it means:

B1G - 0 and 1 loss teams, then 4 loss teams, but most with 4 or 5.

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SEC - half the conference with 2 or less losses, and then fairly well distributed after that.

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WhosYourDawggy said:
SOS in the parens. Those with parens are actually in the CFP hunt.

So, here we go ... B1G has 4 of the top 5. I think that UO and tOSU are legit. I would love to play Indiana or PSU.

With Bama, Ole Miss, and UGA at 9-11 there would be some teams getting round 1 games who would be thinking, really? That's our reward?

That is a lot of teams still in the hunt. I think you have to be 10-2 to get in.

SEC
- LSU was eliminated last night.
- Loser of the UGA UTjr game is out - UGa for sure with 3 losses, UTjr still has a slight shot, but the SEC could have 5 10-2 or better teams and I am not sure they would be in the top 4.
- ATM v. Texas is an elimination game for ATM
- Bama should win out (OU and AU)

SECCG is down to ATM, Tenn, Bama, and Texas.
If ATM and UTjr win out, that is your SECCG. Bama, Ole Miss, and Missouri (if they beat SUCjr) would be the next 3 for the CFP.
If ATM loses, and UTjr wins, it's UTjr v. UT.
If ATM wins, and UTjr loses, it's ATM v. Bama.
If ATM loses, and UTjr loses, it's UT v. Bama

We could have a hell of a logjam if UGA beats UTjr, and Texas beats ATM, and Missouri wins out. That would leave 6 teams @ 10-2 or better:
ATM, Bama, UGA, Missouri, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee. Think about that ... 7 teams that are 10-2 or better, and LSU with 3 losses.

The only way the SEC gets 5 is if the B1G gets 3. With all 4 of their top teams likely to be 10-2 or better, I don't see that. So, who goes from the SEC ... Bama beat UGA, lost to Tenn. Tenn beat Bama but lost to UGA. Texas beat ATM, but lost to UGA. UGA beat Texas and Tenn, but lost to Bama and Ole Miss. Ole Miss will have beaten UGA soundly, but lost to Ky at home and 3 loss LSU. Someone is going to get left out who beat someone who got in. Or UGA is going to get left out with the top SOS in the country and wins over Texas and Tenn.

B1G
- The only decent game left in the B1G is tOSU v. IU. Assuming that tOSU beats IU, it's UO v. tOSU in the B1G.
- It seems to me that all 4 teams get in. Even if tOSU loses for the second time, IU, and OU get ing, and PSU gets in with a loss, and tOSU gets in with 2 losses.

Everyone else - there is no way a second team gets in from the ACC or the B12, ND looks to get in so long as they beat USC, and then the G5.

In my biased opinion, the B1G should get 3, the SEC 5, then the other 4. But I don't see that happening unless tOSU beats the snot out of IU and they get passed by a 10-2 SEC team. Even if tOSU loses, their brand will get them in over UTjr or Ole Miss.

Comparing the SEC with the B1G is really weird and I would love to hear the B1G feedback. You have 4 top teams, and then a bunch of mid after that. The SEC has 8 top/solid teams and then some bad teams. If the SEC only gets 4 and then IU and PSU get crushed that's not going to be good for the B1G.

I could really see this as the impetus for the 14 teams playoff with 2 AQ byes for the SEC and B1G. If we ran this today, UGA with the no. 1 SOS would be out, unless we got in over ND. Now, if we beat Tenn, that's going to switch ... they will drop to a lower 2 loss SEC school.
  1. Oregon (49)
  2. Ohio State (26)
  3. Texas (55)
  4. Penn State (30)
  5. Indiana (100)
  6. Tennessee (35)
  7. BYU (54)
  8. Notre Dame (73)
  9. Alabama (11)
  10. Ole Miss (23)
  11. Georgia (1)
  12. Miami (39)
  13. Boise State (68)
  14. SMU (81)
  15. Texas A&M (21)
  16. Army (133)
  17. Clemson (52)
  18. Colorado (77)
  19. Washington State
  20. Kansas State (42)
  21. LSU
  22. Louisville
  23. South Carolina
  24. Missouri
  25. Tulane
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A&M vs. Texas should be an elimination game for both. Texas would have a grand total of zero ranked wins if they don't beat them. But this committee pretty clearly values the quality loss with where OSU, Texas, PSU and BYU were ranked Tuesday.

I'll be interested to see where Ole Miss is ranked since they have an atrocious loss to Kentucky. My guess is that gets overlooked. If they're ahead of ND, it will truly be laughable.
 
duckboy33 said:
I think their performance vs. Ohio State matters. They don't have to win but if they get run off the field, that might change some minds.
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What if they run tOSU off the field?
 
michaeljordan_fan said:
That's fair. Losing by <20 I think keeps them in.
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Probably true, but it should not be. With their awful SOS which includes Fla. International, Western Illinois and Charlotte OOC (That's so AWFUL) and not a single win over a B1G team (even with a 9 game schedule) currently better than 5-4, they should be required to be more competitive than 3 Tds down to have a chance at a Playoff spot IMO. Seriously, Iowa State won @ 6-4 Iowa - which is better than ANY win record wise that Indiana has this year, and ISU has no business near the CFP as an at-large even if they win out and finish 10-2. Not arguing for that!

FWIW, I am rooting for Indiana to win @ Ohio State, beat Purdue and beat Oregon in the B1G CCG to get the bye in the Rose Bowl. That would be a story for a CFB lifetime. Even a win @ Ohio State and a loss to Oregon would be worthy. That would also be well earned. However, finishing 11-1 with their incredibly easy schedule and not a single quality win - especially if they lose to Ohio State by more than one score would not be worthy IMO. If they do sneak in at 11-1 with the loss @ Ohio State and no quality victories, they definitely should not get to host a game.
 
ericd7633 said:
Yeah I know. All those teams have a quality loss, BYU has none and they were all ranked ahead. And in Texas's and PSU's case no good wins either.
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And BYU won @ S.M.U. which is leading the ACC.
 
78Cyclones said:
FWIW, I am rooting for Indiana to win @ Ohio State, beat Purdue and beat Oregon in the B1G CCG to get the bye in the Rose Bowl. That would be a story for a CFB lifetime. Even a win @ Ohio State and a loss to Oregon would be worthy
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Same here, Hoosiers all the way!
 
ericd7633 said:
Yeah I know. All those teams have a quality loss, BYU has none and they were all ranked ahead. And in Texas's and PSU's case no good wins either.
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Oh, got you now, sorry
 
Rolltide94 said:
What if they run tOSU off the field?
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Ryan Gosling Shut Up GIF
 
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