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I've been thinking about this all wrong all year thinking the B1G was the outlier because the top teams (with the exception of Ohio State have missed each other). Duh! It's the same in all four of the P4 over-bloated conferences without divisions. By definition since they cannot even remotely all play each other, the teams that win will congregate at the top because they don't play each other. Meanwhile, the losing teams drop out of site. Just the way it is. So, the top four teams in all four conferences will not have played many vs. the others. It's the same in the ACC with SMU, Miami, Clemson and Syracuse. If they all played each other, they wouldn't all still be in the top four. Same in the Big XII with BYU, Colorado, Ariz. State and Iowa State. If they all played each other, they wouldn't all be there. The one that is a little different is the SEC because they have an abundance of 2 loss teams, but the two teams at the top Texas and Texas A&M only have one combined game vs. the 2 loss teams. So, my apologies for bitching about the B1G teams, specifically Indiana all year. They all deserve to be where they are. However, same goes to the top 4 teams in the other conferences too. It appears as if four is about right for depth of good teams in 3/4 of the P4 conferences with the SEC going a little deeper this year, but that is a aberration even for them. Just my onion.
 
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20 to 1 vcash bet?

Army and Boise win out, my guess is they get left out. Army winning out obviously not likely, but I don't think the league as a whole controls their destiny. Not a great spot to be in.
 
Army and Boise win out, my guess is they get left out. Army winning out obviously not likely, but I don't think the league as a whole controls their destiny. Not a great spot to be in.

20 to 1 bet for anyone who thinks this is a legit chance.
 
20 to 1 bet for anyone who thinks this is a legit chance.

I'll let you know after this weekend. Because after this weekend, well know. You can agree if Army and Boise St win out they are going to get in ahead of the B12 champ right?
 
I'll let you know after this weekend. Because after this weekend, well know. You can agree if Army and Boise St win out they are going to get in ahead of the B12 champ right?

I’m not going to scenario village. Take the odds or admit you know it won’t happen either
 
I've been thinking about this all wrong all year thinking the B1G was the outlier because the top teams (with the exception of Ohio State have missed each other). Duh! It's the same in all four of the P4 over-bloated conferences without divisions. By definition since they cannot even remotely all play each other, the teams that win will congregate at the top because they don't play each other. Meanwhile, the losing teams drop out of site. Just the way it is. So, the top four teams in all four conferences will not have played many vs. the others. It's the same in the ACC with SMU, Miami, Clemson and Syracuse. If they all played each other, they wouldn't all still be in the top four. Same in the Big XII with BYU, Colorado, Ariz. State and Iowa State. If they all played each other, they wouldn't all be there. The one that is a little different is the SEC because they have an abundance of 2 loss teams, but the two teams at the top Texas and Texas A&M only have one combined game vs. the 2 loss teams. So, my apologies for bitching about the B1G teams, specifically Indiana all year. They all deserve to be where they are. However, same goes to the top 4 teams in the other conferences too. It appears as if four is about right for depth of good teams in 3/4 of the P4 conferences with the SEC going a little deeper this year, but that is a aberration even for them. Just my onion.
Yeah, I looked at schedules early in the year when Texas’ schedule came up compared to Oklahoma’s. Vastly different. So I perused the other conferences and picked up on Rutgers’ schedule being soft but missed Indiana’s and Penn State. And I incorrectly gauged Big 12 schedules on who avoided most of Utah, Oklahoma State, K-State and Iowa State. Boy that didn’t turn out correct at all!:facepalm: Most of the others have gone to chalk other than SMU and Indiana being more difficult than projected.
 
What about if UMass beats UGA?

Either bet or end the silly conversation

I mean comparing Army to UMass is ridiculous. I'm not gonna bet it because it requires my team to lose, which is a ridiculous proposition. Lol.
 
I mean comparing Army to UMass is ridiculous. I'm not gonna bet it because it requires my team to lose, which is a ridiculous proposition. Lol.

It is a ridiculous proposition, that’s been my point the whole time. The big 12 champ will be in the CFP. Arguing about scenarios that aren’t going to happen is a waste of time.

I’ll up it on my part. 100-1 odds to anyone who thinks this has a real chance of happening. If you aren’t willing to take 100-1 odds, stop quoting me about what might happen
 
It is a ridiculous proposition, that’s been my point the whole time. The big 12 champ will be in the CFP. Arguing about scenarios that aren’t going to happen is a waste of time.

I’ll up it on my part. 100-1 odds to anyone who thinks this has a real chance of happening. If you aren’t willing to take 100-1 odds, stop quoting me about what might happen

It's ridiculous for me to bet anything on this bc it would require my team to lose. Lol.

Do I think ND will beat Army, yeah sure. Is it a 100% guarantee? No because hell we lost to a team a hell of a lot worse than this.

All I'm saying is the B12 doesn't control their own destiny. Will their champ get there? Yeah, the odds are in their favor bc ND likely beats Army, but relying on stuff outside of your control isn't a great reality.
 
It is a ridiculous proposition, that’s been my point the whole time. The big 12 champ will be in the CFP. Arguing about scenarios that aren’t going to happen is a waste of time.

I’ll up it on my part. 100-1 odds to anyone who thinks this has a real chance of happening. If you aren’t willing to take 100-1 odds, stop quoting me about what might happen
I know the criteria is 5 conference champs + 7 at large. Are those 5 spots reserved for the five lowest ranked conference champions regardless of conference? Or for the B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12 and the lowest G5 conference champ? If the MWC and AAC champions both finished higher ranked than the Big 12 champion, would the Big 12 champion still get in?
 
I know the criteria is 5 conference champs + 7 at large. Are those 5 spots reserved for the five lowest ranked conference champions regardless of conference? Or for the B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12 and the lowest G5 conference champ? If the MWC and AAC champions both finished higher ranked than the Big 12 champion, would the Big 12 champion still get in?

If the AAC and Mtn West champ are ranked higher than the B12 champ, the B12 champ would become an at large candidate. They could, in theory, get selected, but would need some help for that to happen.
 
If the AAC and Mtn West champ are ranked higher than the B12 champ, the B12 champ would become an at large candidate. They could, in theory, get selected, but would need some help for that to happen.
That's what I was thinking. Because of their parity, there might could be two 9-3 teams entering the CCG. I'm looking at remaining schedules to see if that is possible. It would require both BYU and Colorado to both lose their two remaining games. Which I don't see happening because BYU has Houston left and Colorado has Okie Lite left. The other two for them are this week against Az State for BYU and Kansas for Colorado. Those two are "losable".
 
It's ridiculous for me to bet anything on this bc it would require my team to lose. Lol.

Do I think ND will beat Army, yeah sure. Is it a 100% guarantee? No because hell we lost to a team a hell of a lot worse than this.

All I'm saying is the B12 doesn't control their own destiny. Will their champ get there? Yeah, the odds are in their favor bc ND likely beats Army, but relying on stuff outside of your control isn't a great reality.

Won't take 100 to 1 odds with fake money. That tells me you know this isn't a serious situation
 
I know the criteria is 5 conference champs + 7 at large. Are those 5 spots reserved for the five lowest ranked conference champions regardless of conference? Or for the B1G, SEC, ACC, Big 12 and the lowest G5 conference champ? If the MWC and AAC champions both finished higher ranked than the Big 12 champion, would the Big 12 champion still get in?

Yes. If the Big 12 Champ is left out for two G5 teams, it will be end of this playoff format. It won't happen.
 
This is nucking futs. If happened, two 6-3 Big 12 teams could play for the CCG. I just don't see a 6-3 in conference Big 12 team finishing ahead of the MWC or AAC champions in that case.

Here are the current Big 12 standings and remaining schedules for the nine teams that are 4-3 or better. While not probable, eight of them could finish 6-3. Strangely enough, there are only three games remaining among the nine.

BYU/Az State Az State must win in order for BYU to lose the two remaining.
Iowa State/K-State Iowa State win would eliminate K-State but not vice versa
Texas Tech/West Virginia one would eliminate the other.

BYU - 6-1 - @ Az State, Houston Lose both to finish 6-3
Colo - 6-1 - @ Kansas, Oklahoma State Lose both to finish 6-3
Az State - 5-2 - BYU, @Arizona Beat BYU and lose to Arizona to finish 6-3
Iowa State - 5-2 @Utah, K-State Beat either Utah or K-State to finish 6-3
Baylor - 4-3 - @Houston, Kansas Win both to finish 6-3
K-State - 4-3 - Cincy, @ Iowa State Win both to finish 6-3
TCU - 4-3 - Arizona, @ Cincy Win both to finish 6-3
Texas Tech - 4-3 @ Oklahoma State, West Virginia Win both to finish 6-3 which eliminates West Virginia
West Virginia - 4-3 UCF, @ Texas Tech Win both to finish 6-3 which eliminates Texas Tech
 
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