GAME 2024/2025 Season Game Thread

The Illinois freshmen are all impressive. Very.

They will need upper classmen to contribute a lot through the year
 
P5 records through 3 weeks of the season:

ACC: 7-17
Big East: 6-7
Big 12: 8-10
B1G: 10-7
SEC: 17-7

P5 losses to Non P5 teams:

ACC: 7 (North Florida, VCU, Boise State, Jacksonville, Drake, Elon, VCU)
Big East: 5 (Austin Peay, Fordham, Hofstra, Columbia, St Joe's)
Big 12: 4 (Gonzaga x2, Nevada, Liberty)
B1G: 7 (North Texas, St. Mary's, Dayton, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah State, Kennesaw State)
SEC: 3 (North Florida, Memphis, Drake

Top 50 KenPom wins:

ACC: 2 (Michigan, Arizona)
Big East: 3 (Maryland, VCU, Purdue)
Big 12: 5 (UNC, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Michigan State, St Johns)
B1G: 5 (Alabama, Arizona, Texas, Pitt, Creighton)
SEC: 7 (Houston, Duke, Ohio State, St John's, Baylor, Illinois, Nevada)

Non P5 Top 50 KenPom wins:

New Mexico over UCLA
San Francisco over Boise State
Boise State over Clemson
Gonzaga over Baylor
St Joe's over Texas Tech
Nevada over VCU
Utah State over Iowa
Memphis over Missouri
St. Mary's over Nebraska

By Conference:

Mtn West (4)
WCC (3)
A-10 (1)
AAC (1)

My conference rankings thus far:

#1. SEC
#2. B1G
#3. Big 12
#4. Big East
#5. ACC
#6. Mtn. West
#7. WCC
#8. A-10
#9. AAC
#10. Missouri Valley
 
ericd7633 said:
P5 records through 3 weeks of the season:

ACC: 7-17
Big East: 6-7
Big 12: 8-10
B1G: 10-7
SEC: 17-7

P5 losses to Non P5 teams:

ACC: 7 (North Florida, VCU, Boise State, Jacksonville, Drake, Elon, VCU)
Big East: 5 (Austin Peay, Fordham, Hofstra, Columbia, St Joe's)
Big 12: 4 (Gonzaga x2, Nevada, Liberty)
B1G: 7 (North Texas, St. Mary's, Dayton, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah State, Kennesaw State)
SEC: 3 (North Florida, Memphis, Drake

Top 50 KenPom wins:

ACC: 2 (Michigan, Arizona)
Big East: 3 (Maryland, VCU, Purdue)
Big 12: 5 (UNC, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Michigan State, St Johns)
B1G: 5 (Alabama, Arizona, Texas, Pitt, Creighton)
SEC: 7 (Houston, Duke, Ohio State, St John's, Baylor, Illinois, Nevada)

Non P5 Top 50 KenPom wins:

New Mexico over UCLA
San Francisco over Boise State
Boise State over Clemson
Gonzaga over Baylor
St Joe's over Texas Tech
Nevada over VCU
Utah State over Iowa
Memphis over Missouri
St. Mary's over Nebraska

By Conference:

Mtn West (4)
WCC (3)
A-10 (1)
AAC (1)

My conference rankings thus far:

#1. SEC
#2. B1G
#3. Big 12
#4. Big East
#5. ACC
#6. Mtn. West
#7. WCC
#8. A-10
#9. AAC
#10. Missouri Valley
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This is a big week for the BE. Need some some good wins. Bummer that Creighton will have an uphill battle w/o Ashworth.

I think the league has 8 top 100 Kenpom wins as a whole and half those are MU. Need way more.

St Johns already basically ruined their non con resume from a getting good wins standpoint.

UConn and X need to perform. And would be preferred if teams like Prov and Butler can have some success too.
 
Notable games this week:

Monday, November 25th:

Memphis vs. #2 UConn - 2:30 | ESPN2
Colorado vs. Michigan State - 5:00 | ESPN
Michigan vs. Virginia Tech - 6:00 | FS1
Clemson vs. San Francisco - 6:30 | CBSSN
Oregon State at North Texas - 8:00 | ESPN+
Xavier vs. South Carolina - 8:30 | FS1
#4 Auburn vs. #5 Iowa State - 9:00 | ESPNU
Dayton vs. #10 UNC - 11:30 | ESPN2

Tuesday, November 26th:

San Diego State vs. #14 Creighton - 2:00 | TBS
Oregon vs. #23 Texas A&M - 4:30 | TBS
Maui Invitational Semifinal (TBD) - 6:00 | ESPN
Cayman Island Championship (TBD) - 7:30
#8 Alabama vs. #7 Houston - 8:00 | TBS
#1 Kansas vs. #12 Duke - 9:00 | ESPN
#24 Rutgers vs. Notre Dame - 10:30 | TBS
Maui Invitational Semifinal (TBD) - 11:00 | ESPN

Wednesday, November 27th:

Louisville vs. #16 Indiana - 12:00 | ESPN
West Virginia vs. #3 Gonzaga - 2:30 | ESPN
Oregon vs. San Diego State - 4:00 | TNT
Maui Invitational Championship (TBD) - 5:00 | ESPN
Oklahoma vs. Providence - 5:00 | ESPN2
#23 Texas A&M vs. #14 Creighton - 6:30 | Max
Davidson vs. #17 Arizona - 7:30 | ESPN2
Maui Invitational 3rd place - 9:30 | ESPN2
#24 Rutgers vs. #8 Alabama - 10:00 | TBS
Notre Dame vs. #7 Houston - 12:30 | TBS

Thursday, November 28th:

Minnesota vs. Wichita State - 12:00 | ESPN2
Battle 4 Atlantis Semifinal - 12:00 | ESPN
#6 Purdue vs. NC State - 3:00 | FS1
#20 Arkansas vs. #25 Illinois - 4:00 | CBS
Battle 4 Atlantis Semifinal - 5:00 | ESPN
Utah State vs. Saint Bonaventure - 5:30 | ESPN2
BYU vs. Ole Miss - 5:30 | FS1
Washington vs. Colorado State - 6:30 | TruTv
Northwestern vs. Butler - 7:00 | CBSSN
Kennesaw State vs. UC Irvine - 8:00 | ESPN+
USC vs. St Mary's - 9:00 | TruTv
Mississippi State vs. UNLV - 9:30 | CBSSN
New Mexico vs. Arizona State - 11:00 | TruTv

Friday, November 29th:

Pitt vs. Ohio State - 2:30 | Peacock
Battle 4 Atlantis 3rd place - 3:00 ESPN2
ESPN Invitational Events Championship - 3:30 | ESPN
Battle 4 Atlantis Championship - 5:30 | ESPN
 
Mr.Hockey said:
This is a big week for the BE. Need some some good wins. Bummer that Creighton will have an uphill battle w/o Ashworth.

I think the league has 8 top 100 Kenpom wins as a whole and half those are MU. Need way more.

St Johns already basically ruined their non con resume from a getting good wins standpoint.

UConn and X need to perform. And would be preferred if teams like Prov and Butler can have some success too.
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Yeah, this is a huge week for all the conferences. But most notably the BE and ACC since they've gotten off to slower starts. I don't love Creighton without Ashworth. Hopefully he's not out to long. Their next 6 games are insane. All top 100 KenPom teams and at least 3 ranked teams, possibly 4 depending who they get in their 3rd PEF matchup.

Yeah, St John's best opportunities might be behind them.

And if Xavier can perform well, I think that's the leagues best shot at a 5th tournament team. But they need to add something to their resume. The wake win is nice, but that'd only be a Q3 win with Wake struggling in the metrics.

This week will definitely show a lot. The SEC has been really good OOC so far. We'll see if that continues.
 
ericd7633 said:
P5 records through 3 weeks of the season:

ACC: 7-17
Big East: 6-7
Big 12: 8-10
B1G: 10-7
SEC: 17-7

P5 losses to Non P5 teams:

ACC: 7 (North Florida, VCU, Boise State, Jacksonville, Drake, Elon, VCU)
Big East: 5 (Austin Peay, Fordham, Hofstra, Columbia, St Joe's)
Big 12: 4 (Gonzaga x2, Nevada, Liberty)
B1G: 7 (North Texas, St. Mary's, Dayton, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah State, Kennesaw State)
SEC: 3 (North Florida, Memphis, Drake

Top 50 KenPom wins:

ACC: 2 (Michigan, Arizona)
Big East: 3 (Maryland, VCU, Purdue)
Big 12: 5 (UNC, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Michigan State, St Johns)
B1G: 5 (Alabama, Arizona, Texas, Pitt, Creighton)
SEC: 7 (Houston, Duke, Ohio State, St John's, Baylor, Illinois, Nevada)

Non P5 Top 50 KenPom wins:

New Mexico over UCLA
San Francisco over Boise State
Boise State over Clemson
Gonzaga over Baylor
St Joe's over Texas Tech
Nevada over VCU
Utah State over Iowa
Memphis over Missouri
St. Mary's over Nebraska

By Conference:

Mtn West (4)
WCC (3)
A-10 (1)
AAC (1)

My conference rankings thus far:

#1. SEC
#2. B1G
#3. Big 12
#4. Big East
#5. ACC
#6. Mtn. West
#7. WCC
#8. A-10
#9. AAC
#10. Missouri Valley
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I'm not old enough to remember late stage SWC in football but man, current day ACC basketball has to be a decent comp. Former powerhouse league that just fucking sucks now. At least SWC had the cheating excuse. I wonder if the ACC having a disproportionate amount of private schools is playing a role here.
 
Hitman Hart said:
I'm not old enough to remember late stage SWC in football but man, current day ACC basketball has to be a decent comp. Former powerhouse league that just fucking sucks now. At least SWC had the cheating excuse. I wonder if the ACC having a disproportionate amount of private schools is playing a role here.
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It's crazy how down the league has been for the past couple years. Not that long ago Duke, UVA and UNC were all 1 seeds in the tournament. I don't think realignment has helped, and I think programs are either going through coaching transitions (Cuse, UL) or holding on to coaches too long. The league really needs Cuse, UL, ND and UVA to get their shit together. Who knows maybe Stanford can get back to what they were in the 90's and early 2000's.
 
ericd7633 said:
It's crazy how down the league has been for the past couple years. Not that long ago Duke, UVA and UNC were all 1 seeds in the tournament. I don't think realignment has helped, and I think programs are either going through coaching transitions (Cuse, UL) or holding on to coaches too long. The league really needs Cuse, UL, ND and UVA to get their shit together. Who knows maybe Stanford can get back to what they were in the 90's and early 2000's.
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They still continue to pull Final 4 spots out of their ass though.
 
The NET is LIVE!

#1 Tennessee
#2 Auburn
#3 Gonzaga
#4 Duke
#5 Pitt
#6 Florida
#7 Marquette
#8 Kentucky
#9 Kansas
#10 Illinois
#11 Cincinnati
#12 Ohio State
#13 Alabama
#14 Utah State
#15 Oregon
#16 UCLA
#17 Wisconsin
#18 Clemson
#19 Iowa State
#20 Clemson
#21 Purdue
#22 Baylor
#23 Maryland
#24 UC-Irvine
#25 St Mary's
 
NET Conference Rankings:

1. SEC
2. B12
3. B1G
4. Big East
5. ACC
6. A10
7. Mountain West
8. CUSA
9. WCC
10. Missouri Valley
 
 
Q1 OOC records:

SEC: 16-13
Big East: 4-8
B12: 8-19
ACC: 9-25
B1G: 6-18

Mtn West: 3-7
WCC: 3-14
A10: 2-10
CUSA: 0-5
MVC: 0-8
 
Combined Q3/Q4 losses:

ACC: 9
Big East: 8
B12: 4
B1G: 4
SEC: 2
 
This wont fully hold

But right now Marquette is tracking to play more Q1 games in their 11 non con games. Then 20 BE games


Yuck.
 
Mr.Hockey said:
This wont fully hold

But right now Marquette is tracking to play more Q1 games in their 11 non con games. Then 20 BE games


Yuck.
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Yep, Wisconsin gets Michigan, Illinois and Marquette for their next 3 games in an 8 day span.
 
Mr.Hockey said:
This wont fully hold

But right now Marquette is tracking to play more Q1 games in their 11 non con games. Then 20 BE games


Yuck.
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This week is enormous for the BE. Basically the last chance for good OOC wins. St John's, Creighton, Xavier and UConn are must win IMO. If Butler could somehow get a win, that'd be huge too. After Marquette, Butler probably has the best at large case, despite the terrible loss to Austin Peay.
 
ericd7633 said:
This week is enormous for the BE. Basically the last chance for good OOC wins. St John's, Creighton, Xavier and UConn are must win IMO. If Butler could somehow get a win, that'd be huge too. After Marquette, Butler probably has the best at large case, despite the terrible loss to Austin Peay.
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The fact DePaul is currently 1 of the 4(non MU) Q1 road games in BE is so gross.

Like happy that Holtmann already has them with a pulse. But 1. its still DePaul and 2. they havent actually played anyone.

Its imperative at the very least that Creighton/X rise from the dead before conference play
 
Mr.Hockey said:
The fact DePaul is currently 1 of the 4(non MU) Q1 road games in BE is so gross.

Like happy that Holtmann already has them with a pulse. But 1. its still DePaul and 2. they havent actually played anyone.

Its imperative at the very least that Creighton/X rise from the dead before conference play
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I think UConn will beat Baylor, and St Johns will beat KSU, but after that it's dicey. X/TCU is intriguing. TCU is down this year, good chance for X to notch, what would likely be a Q2 win.

DePaul being decent (and to an extent Gtown) has at least raised the floor this year. But Seton Hall and Nova nose diving has really hurt. Nova might be able to recover (Columbia and UVA aren't Q4), and they still have Cincy tomorrow. But that's only based on what I thought they'd be preseason.
 
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