Julian Lewis

[Brutus]

Deion now on record as talking to Raiders and Cowboys about their HC spots. Can I get a check in @Brutus and @DJ Fieri ?

Coaches talk to teams all the time. Deion helps fulfil the Rooney rule, too. We've also heard Day, Sark, Freeman rumors. Let's see if he actually leaves.

I'm sure Jerry loves the media attention and the revenue it could create, but he'd be an idiot to bring Deion in. I think Dallas needs to create a culture that he won't build. Same with Witten (lol), no NFL coaching experience. Sucks they missed out on Vrabel, but I could see Jerry going for Aaron Glenn, which could be a great hire.

As for the Raiders, who cares. Mark Davis is an Imbecile.

 

[jjc2009]

and he is adamant he is staying at Colorado

Nick Saban was adamant about staying with the Dolphins too. They’re “adamant” until they’re not.

 

[Red_Alert]

FWIW

Deion inherited a (1-11) program, went (4-8) in his first season and (9-4) in his second season.

Rhule inherited a (4-8) program, went (5-7) in his first season, and (7-6) in his second season.

Deion started with less but has made more progress.

 

[trojanfan12]

FWIW

Deion inherited a (1-11) program, went (4-8) in his first season and (9-4) in his second season.

Rhule inherited a (4-8) program, went (5-7) in his first season, and (7-6) in his second season.

Deion started with less but has made more progress.

I'm not so sure about that...I'd be willing to bet that Nebraska had a tougher SOS.

Plus, Matt Rhule just looks like what a Nebraska coach should look like.

 

[fordman84]

Coaches talk to teams all the time. Deion helps fulfil the Rooney rule, too. We've also heard Day, Sark, Freeman rumors. Let's see if he actually leaves.

I'm sure Jerry loves the media attention and the revenue it could create, but he'd be an idiot to bring Deion in. I think Dallas needs to create a culture that he won't build. Same with Witten (lol), no NFL coaching experience. Sucks they missed out on Vrabel, but I could see Jerry going for Aaron Glenn, which could be a great hire.

As for the Raiders, who cares. Mark Davis is an Imbecile.

You laughed at the thought he would leave. Now everything I have said about him is holding true.

 

[Across The Field]

FWIW

Deion inherited a (1-11) program, went (4-8) in his first season and (9-4) in his second season.

Rhule inherited a (4-8) program, went (5-7) in his first season, and (7-6) in his second season.

Deion started with less but has made more progress.

A few things here:

2022 Colorado that went 1-11, they faced one of the toughest schedules in the nation. OOC was TCU (13-2), Minnesota (9-4), and Air Force (10-3). In total that season, 9/12 games they played were teams with 9+ wins. Deion was maybe winning one more game than that team.

Secondly, his two years at Colorado have come with the #1 and #8 portal class. Clearly Nebraska hasn't gotten that kind of talent.

Thirdly, the schedule is obviously incredibly important here. Nebraska went 7-6 this year while Colorado went 9-4 and you say Colorado has made more progress, yet they got their asses handed to them by that 7-6 Nebraska team, so who has actually made the real progress here, and who is just a product of an incredibly weak conference?

 

[fordman84]

A few things here:

2022 Colorado that went 1-11, they faced one of the toughest schedules in the nation. OOC was TCU (13-2), Minnesota (9-4), and Air Force (10-3). In total that season, 9/12 games they played were teams with 9+ wins. Deion was maybe winning one more game than that team.

Secondly, his two years at Colorado have come with the #1 and #8 portal class. Clearly Nebraska hasn't gotten that kind of talent.

Thirdly, the schedule is obviously incredibly important here. Nebraska went 7-6 this year while Colorado went 9-4 and you say Colorado has made more progress, yet they got their asses handed to them by that 7-6 Nebraska team, so who has actually made the real progress here, and who is just a product of an incredibly weak conference?

Lastly the most important thing about the conversation being had here about Deion is not his ability to recruit talent. The conversation here is that Deion only goes where he can get playing time for Shiloh. Sure he wants to coach both of his kids, but Shiloh wouldn't ever see the field if not for daddy. Shaduer has enough talent. So Sanders is a near-certain to not be coaching at Colorado next year, but some people can't grasp that.

 

[Across The Field]

Lastly the most important thing about the conversation being had here about Deion is not his ability to recruit talent. The conversation here is that Deion only goes where he can get playing time for Shiloh. Sure he wants to coach both of his kids, but Shiloh wouldn't ever see the field if not for daddy. Shaduer has enough talent. So Sanders is a near-certain to not be coaching at Colorado next year, but some people can't grasp that.

I haven't seen a coach accomplish so little yet be thought of for such big time roles like this since Lane Kiffin. We will have to see what happens to that program after he takes off. It's not going to be pretty.

 

[fordman84]

I haven't seen a coach accomplish so little yet be thought of for such big time roles like this since Lane Kiffin. We will have to see what happens to that program after he takes off. It's not going to be pretty.

Was Lane before or after Kingsbury? He's the one that amazes me, got fired from TxTech and promoted to the NFL. wha? Dude should be paying royalties off every contract to Johnny Football.

 

[Brutus]

You laughed at the thought he would leave. Now everything I have said about him is holding true.

I was laughing at some people constantly moving the goal posts. I’ve never once believed he would be at Colorado long term.

At first it was he wouldn’t succeed at Colorado. Then he improved the win total so it was anyone could have done that with the portal. Then this season they had some close games in the beginning and there was no way he was going to get bowl eligible. After a good season now it’s “he’s gonna leave Colorado in shambles when he leave!” like anyone gives a flying fuck about the state of CU football lol.

 

[Brutus]

A few things here:

2022 Colorado that went 1-11, they faced one of the toughest schedules in the nation. OOC was TCU (13-2), Minnesota (9-4), and Air Force (10-3). In total that season, 9/12 games they played were teams with 9+ wins. Deion was maybe winning one more game than that team.

Secondly, his two years at Colorado have come with the #1 and #8 portal class. Clearly Nebraska hasn't gotten that kind of talent.

Thirdly, the schedule is obviously incredibly important here. Nebraska went 7-6 this year while Colorado went 9-4 and you say Colorado has made more progress, yet they got their asses handed to them by that 7-6 Nebraska team, so who has actually made the real progress here, and who is just a product of an incredibly weak conference?

Hard to judge a week 2 game back on Sep 7th as a measuring stick for the season

Buffs improved as the season went along while it felt like the Huskers fell off their second half of the season

 

[fordman84]

I was laughing at some people constantly moving the goal posts. I’ve never once believed he would be at Colorado long term.

At first it was he wouldn’t succeed at Colorado. Then he improved the win total so it was anyone could have done that with the portal. Then this season they had some close games in the beginning and there was no way he was going to get bowl eligible. After a good season now it’s “he’s gonna leave Colorado in shambles when he leave!” like anyone gives a flying fuck about the state of CU football lol.

Speaking of moving the goalposts! You clearly were mocking me for saying he would leave Colorado when his kids did.
No one said shit about "leaving in shambles", careful you don't throw out your back lugging those goalposts all over the stadium.

 

[Brutus]

No one said shit about "leaving in shambles"

I’ve seen it in many Deion threads

You clearly were mocking me for saying he would leave Colorado when his kids did.

Mocking anyone who wanted Deion to fail and then we he didn’t has to rip him for some hypothetical move to the NFL that hasn’t happened yet

 

[fordman84]

I’ve seen it in many Deion threads

Yet here we are, in this exact one and it's not the conversation.

Mocking anyone who wanted Deion to fail and then we he didn’t has to rip him for some hypothetical move to the NFL that hasn’t happened yet

Cool. Isn't what happened here. You mocked me for saying Deion would do what he has done at LITERALLY every coaching job he has ever had...once again.

 

[Brutus]

Yet here we are, in this exact one and it's not the conversation.

Cool. Isn't what happened here. You mocked me for saying Deion would do what he has done at LITERALLY every coaching job he has ever had...once again.

If he stays, you apologize. If he leaves, I'll apologize.

 

[fordman84]

If he stays, you apologize. If he leaves, I'll apologize.

I have no issue with an apology. And I have no issue if he stays. But to jump straight into mocking as if it isn't a possibility when he has moved on from every single coaching job he has ever had when his kids move is pretty silly.

 

[Across The Field]

Hard to judge a week 2 game back on Sep 7th as a measuring stick for the season

Buffs improved as the season went along while it felt like the Huskers fell off their second half of the season

No it's not, it's very easy. Colorado didn't just lose, they were obliterated. Nebraska was up 28-0 at halftime and it was 28-3 midway through the 4th. Also, no, Colorado didn't improve as the season went along. They just played really shitty teams. They missed the three best teams in the conference during the season, then when they faced one of them in a bowl game they got obliterated yet again.

If you swapped Nebraska for Colorado this year, Colorado is likely going 4-8, 3-9 maybe while Nebraska pushes for a CFB berth.

 

[osubuckeye89]

No it's not, it's very easy. Colorado didn't just lose, they were obliterated. Nebraska was up 28-0 at halftime and it was 28-3 midway through the 4th. Also, no, Colorado didn't improve as the season went along. They just played really shitty teams. They missed the three best teams in the conference during the season, then when they faced one of them in a bowl game they got obliterated yet again.

If you swapped Nebraska for Colorado this year, Colorado is likely going 4-8, 3-9 maybe while Nebraska pushes for a CFB berth.

Yep, Colorado absolutely benefited from what ended up being a weaker BIg 12 schedule.

They didn't have to play Arizona State, BYU or Iowa State in the regular season.

Baylor and Kansas State were the "best" teams they played, they lost to Kansas State and needed a miracle hail mary to beat Baylor.

They also lost their last regular season game by 2 scores to a 5-7 Kansas team.

Some people want to pretend like they were on some killer championship type path, that's not even close to the case.

 

[Brutus]

No it's not, it's very easy. Colorado didn't just lose, they were obliterated. Nebraska was up 28-0 at halftime and it was 28-3 midway through the 4th. Also, no, Colorado didn't improve as the season went along. They just played really shitty teams. They missed the three best teams in the conference during the season, then when they faced one of them in a bowl game they got obliterated yet again.

If you swapped Nebraska for Colorado this year, Colorado is likely going 4-8, 3-9 maybe while Nebraska pushes for a CFB berth.

Remind us who beat ND in week 2


Teams change a ton from September

 

[osubuckeye89]

Remind us who beat ND in week 2


Teams change a ton from September

Look how Colorado ended the season

2 score loss to 5-7 Kansas and then blown out in the bowl game by BYU. No "they didn't want to be there" excuse, all of Colorado's top players played and talked shit that they were going to go out and make a statement.