More Michigan Cheating

Shanemansj13 said:
DENY, DENY, DENY until you are blue in the face

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Who's denying? Michigan is guilty of committing a minor violation in which was blown up for clicks.
 
ralphiewvu said:
JFC maize you are retarded. These were your words 2 posts ago: “I asked you to provide a video where the light was on constantly, not a screen grab from the video you showed” to which I’m replying there wasn’t and continues to not be a screen grab on. Quit calling it that which I have noticed in the post I’m responding to now you suddenly have. Funny how that works
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What was being discussed was a screen grab from the video you posted. You posting the full video doesn't change what was being discussed.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
What was being discussed was a screen grab from the video you posted. You posting the full video doesn't change what was being discussed.
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You are now moving the goal posts. The whole premise of this conversation was laughing at you for calling (and continuing to) the video a screen grab. Which I have already proven it wasn't.

Has the NCAA ever dealt with a person associated with another university on the sideline of a game not involving his employer video taping the other sideline?
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL

Translation: "Your honor the charges claim my client stabbed the victim 8 times. That is false. My client only stabbed the victim 7 times. The other wound was cause by the victim falling on a broom they were holding. Therefore, I request you find my client innocent of these ridiculous allegations, and toss this case."
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MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Not even remotely true. Gathering information in an easier manor and reaching the same result is, by definition, a minor infraction.
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LOL... My post was precisely on point.

"In its response, the university argues that Stalions attended just one of those games himself, and that only eight others were attended by a then-Michigan staff member — lower-level staff members that Stalions assigned. The other 43 games, per Michigan, were attended by Stalions' friends or family"

A Michigan staffer was purchasing tickets to future opponent's games for his friends or family to video their future opponents sideline signals and provide said video to the Michigan staffer to develop game plans. By default Michigan (through their staffer) was funding the illegal scouting operation. It doesn't fucking matter whether Michigan knew about it or not.

You should default back to "i'Ve OnLy mAdE 4 PoSts iN tHiS ThReAd".
 
Red_Alert said:
LOL... My post was precisely on point.

"In its response, the university argues that Stalions attended just one of those games himself, and that only eight others were attended by a then-Michigan staff member — lower-level staff members that Stalions assigned. The other 43 games, per Michigan, were attended by Stalions' friends or family"

A Michigan staffer was purchasing tickets to future opponent's games for his friends or family to video their future opponents sideline signals and provide said video to the Michigan staffer to develop game plans. By default Michigan (through their staffer) was funding the illegal scouting operation. It doesn't fucking matter whether Michigan knew about it or not.

You should default back to "i'Ve OnLy mAdE 4 PoSts iN tHiS ThReAd".
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As I've pointed out multiple times in the last almost 300 pages of this thread, there's nothing illegal about non-university members attending games and recording them for the university. There's no bylaw about that. That's not illegal scouting, that's being smarter than the rules.
 
I got to wondering.
Who would win...;.. 2023 Michigan vs 2024 Ohio State
 
ralphiewvu said:
You are now moving the goal posts. The whole premise of this conversation was laughing at you for calling (and continuing to) the video a screen grab. Which I have already proven it wasn't.

Has the NCAA ever dealt with a person associated with another university on the sideline of a game not involving his employer video taping the other sideline?
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I'm not. I literally said that like a billion days ago in the same thread. I even quoted it for you, again, in this most recent edition of you refusing to acknowledge the context of my comments.

and yes, happened at baylor but it was only one game. And yes, it was a secondary violation.
www.ncaa.org

Two Baylor assistant football coaches committed recruiting violations

Download the December 2016 Baylor University Public Infractions Decision
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org

Along with a few recruiting violations, this is what their punishments were:
  • A $5,000 fine.
  • The football staff stopped recruiting one of the prospects for eight weeks (self-imposed by the university).
  • The football staff stopped recruiting at track and field meets (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were suspended for one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The assistant coach who attended the future competitor's game was suspended from the first half of one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were prohibited from off-campus recruiting for 12 weeks during the fall 2015 evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).
Basically, a half game suspension and a $5000 fine. lol
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
As I've pointed out multiple times in the last almost 300 pages of this thread, there's nothing illegal about non-university members attending games and recording them for the university. There's no bylaw about that. That's not illegal scouting, that's being smarter than the rules.
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LMFAO

You're about to find out that you're looking at things as a 'Best Case Scenario" for Michigan.

So if a Michigan staffer funds someone to contaminate an opponents food prior to a game, then Michigan can't be held liable for their staffer that funded it?

FAFO
 
Red_Alert said:
LMFAO

You're about to find out that you're looking at things as a 'Best Case Scenario" for Michigan.

So if a Michigan staffer funds someone to contaminate an opponents food prior to a game, then Michigan can't be held liable for the staffer that funded it?

FAFO
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There is no NCAA rule against people not employed by the university going to games, filming them and providing that to any school. There's also no rule against past opponents sharing information with opponents of that school in the future. Michigan broke the bylaw 8 times. And given the punishment the baylor staffer received for the 1 game he attended, that's equivalent of suspending Stallions for 4 full games and a $40,000 fine. It was a secondary violation then. Unless you're going to argue the collective somehow violates another unnamed NCAA bylaw, there is no way to rule that previous infections were secondary but these infractions of the same bylaw or major.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm not. I literally said that like a billion days ago in the same thread. I even quoted it for you, again, in this most recent edition of you refusing to acknowledge the context of my comments.

and yes, happened at baylor but it was only one game. And yes, it was a secondary violation.
www.ncaa.org

Two Baylor assistant football coaches committed recruiting violations

Download the December 2016 Baylor University Public Infractions Decision
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org

Along with a few recruiting violations, this is what their punishments were:
  • A $5,000 fine.
  • The football staff stopped recruiting one of the prospects for eight weeks (self-imposed by the university).
  • The football staff stopped recruiting at track and field meets (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were suspended for one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The assistant coach who attended the future competitor's game was suspended from the first half of one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were prohibited from off-campus recruiting for 12 weeks during the fall 2015 evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).
Basically, a half game suspension and a $5000 fine. lol
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You typed all this really believing that's what @ralphiewvu asked?
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
There is no NCAA rule against people not employed by the university going to games, filming them and providing that to any school. There's also no rule against past opponents sharing information with opponents of that school in the future. Michigan broke the bylaw 8 times. And given the punishment the baylor staffer received for the 1 game he attended, that's equivalent of suspending Stallions for 4 full games and a $40,000 fine. It was a secondary violation then. Unless you're going to argue the collective somehow violates another unnamed NCAA bylaw, there is no way to rule that previous infections were secondary but these infractions of the same bylaw or major.
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Reality is gonna kick you in the nuts really hard.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
I'm not. I literally said that like a billion days ago in the same thread. I even quoted it for you, again, in this most recent edition of you refusing to acknowledge the context of my comments.
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You are. You refuse to admit you called my video a screen grab even when I showed (angain) absolute proof you did. You just don’t want to admit that maize. There is nothing hidden in the context when you are asking me to show a video instead of a screen grab when a video is exactly what I showed.
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
and yes, happened at baylor but it was only one game. And yes, it was a secondary violation.
www.ncaa.org

Two Baylor assistant football coaches committed recruiting violations

Download the December 2016 Baylor University Public Infractions Decision
www.ncaa.org www.ncaa.org

Along with a few recruiting violations, this is what their punishments were:
  • A $5,000 fine.
  • The football staff stopped recruiting one of the prospects for eight weeks (self-imposed by the university).
  • The football staff stopped recruiting at track and field meets (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were suspended for one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The assistant coach who attended the future competitor's game was suspended from the first half of one game during the 2015-16 season (self-imposed by the university).
  • The two assistant coaches who exceeded evaluations were prohibited from off-campus recruiting for 12 weeks during the fall 2015 evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).
Basically, a half game suspension and a $5000 fine. lol
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No where does it say that staffer was on the sideline tapping the future opponents hand signals with a recording device. So, not really the same thing maize.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
None of it matters. In person scouting is in person scouting. There's no distinction in the rule as to how it's done.
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With a recording device on the other sideline? You may be surprised bub.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
None of it matters. In person scouting is in person scouting. There's no distinction in the rule as to how it's done.
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What you linked about Baylor was them attending a high school game to look at a recruit, but they had already hit the limit of times they were allowed to do that. It's nothing like what Michigan is being accused of
 
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