Seattle Kraken NHL Expansion Draft

Can't keep a third tier NBA team, I doubt it. Seattle's only so-so as a sports town. The pro baseball team is one of the worst in the AL, with only 3 playoff wins in its history and no appearances in 20 years. After the Seahawks, it's just not really that big of a sports town.

The Kraken won't have a farm team until they begin the season themselves, which is an amazing oversight. They do get to enjoy the same crooked expansion draft rules that Vegas did, extorting potential deals by making agreement not to draft certain unprotected players, but I think it will be less effective this time around.
Don't think teams will panick (plus, prepare better) as much this time around. They support soccer well. I can see them supporting hockey well.
 
True. It was a long-ass time coming for me and other Caps fans.

As much as I dislike the Pens, at least they had to work for their success, playoff appearances and Stanley Cups.
The long wait just make it all that much sweeter :beer2:
 
Don't think teams will panick (plus, prepare better) as much this time around. They support soccer well. I can see them supporting hockey well.
Well, I hope so. I want a strong League, and don't want to see any NHL relocation to San Antonio, Providence or Birmingham. Seattle certainly isn't Atlanta or San Diego and has real fans that will support teams. But it will be an uphill battle.

The long wait just make it all that much sweeter :beer2:
It did.
 
Ovie is overrated.
Really? The guy who stands a good chance of breaking Wayne Gretzky's goal-scoring record is "overrated"?

9 Richard trophies
1 Art Ross trophy
3 Hart trophies
3 Pearson awards
1 Conn Smythe trophy
1 Calder trophy

How come Crosby doesn't have a Calder trophy?
 
Really? The guy who stands a good chance of breaking Wayne Gretzky's goal-scoring record is "overrated"?

9 Richard trophies
1 Art Ross trophy
3 Hart trophies
3 Pearson awards
1 Conn Smythe trophy
1 Calder trophy

How come Crosby doesn't have a Calder trophy?
No doubt Ovi is a great scorer, but top to bottom player... I'll take Crosby.
 
No doubt Ovi is a great scorer, but top to bottom player... I'll take Crosby.
Bigger legend in his city = Ovechkin. Better captain, bigger impact player. One day, VGK might get someone 1/10th as good.
 
True. It was a long-ass time coming for me and other Caps fans.

As much as I dislike the Pens, at least they had to work for their success, playoff appearances and Stanley Cups.
Yep 5 years of continuous tanking paid off for them .
 
Bigger legend in his city = Ovechkin. Better captain, bigger impact player. One day, VGK might get someone 1/10th as good.
Worst team ever = 74-75 Caps

VGK = been to the playoffs every year in existence. Only NHL team that can say that. lol

Idk why you're all butt hurt about it. I am not an Ovie fan, never have been. Also... Crosby 3 cups > Ovie 1 cup and Ovie has been in the league longer iirc.
 
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Yep 5 years of continuous tanking paid off for them .
You said it.
Worst team ever = 74-75 Caps

VGK = been to the playoffs every year in existence. Only NHL team that can say that. lol

Idk why you're all butt hurt about it. I am not an Ovie fan, never have been. Also... Crosby 3 cups > Ovie 1 cup and Ovie has been in the league longer iirc.
Yeah, and VGK managed to do that based off a crooked draft, unprecedented in NHL history, and not repeated... until next offseason.

I'm not the biggest Ovie fan either, but I can appreciate his greatness. Still waiting for you to tell me where Crosby's Calder Trophy is.
 
Yeah, and VGK managed to do that based off a crooked draft, unprecedented in NHL history, and not repeated... until next offseason.
Nothing VGKs fault.
I'm not the biggest Ovie fan either, but I can appreciate his greatness. Still waiting for you to tell me where Crosby's Calder Trophy is.
Sorry, still counting Crosbys Stanley Cups.
 
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Crooked draft is a crooked draft. Other teams had to earn their early existence.
Hate on the NHL, not VGK.
Silly me. I thought hockey was a team sport. Fuck all of those other guys' engraved on the Cup alongside Crosby, I guess?
Silly me, wondering why if it is a team sport you are talking about individual trophies based on perception. Also funny, because you know the Penguins don't win those cups without Crosby.
 
Hate on the NHL, not VGK.
I don't hate on either. The NHL did it because they didn't want another Atlanta Thrashers / Arizona Coyotes, and didn't think they could trust that a brand new fanbase would stick around if it meant 3+ years of a young, building team. I have nothing against the VGK as an organization, either. But self-entitled VGK fans who think they have a legitimate team is what pisses me off.

No matter- it was the wimpiest of opponents that the Caps beat on their title run. Hell, anyone in the East knew it was a free Cup, once the Preds went down.
Silly me, wondering why if it is a team sport you are talking about individual trophies based on perception. Also funny, because you know the Penguins don't win those cups without Crosby.
The Penguins have won games without Baby Crosby. Hockey is a team sport, through and through. Sorry if Ovechkin is a more noteworthy player than Crosby. In 30 years from now, Crosby will be just one of a long line of good centers- Toews, Tavares, Backstrom, Francis, Kopitar, Sakic, maybe Messier, etc. But Ovechkin will be a scoring legend sitting one spot above (or below) Gretzky.
 
I don't hate on either.
Trying to convince me or yourself?
The NHL did it because they didn't want another Atlanta Thrashers / Arizona Coyotes, and didn't think they could trust that a brand new fanbase would stick around if it meant 3+ years of a young, building team. I have nothing against the VGK as an organization, either. But self-entitled VGK fans who think they have a legitimate team is what pisses me off.
Well the illegitimate team has never missed the playoffs. Seriously, what kind of nonsense are you spewing. What makes them not legitimate? Because you don't like the draft rules?
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No matter- it was the wimpiest of opponents that the Caps beat on their title run. Hell, anyone in the East knew it was a free Cup, once the Preds went down.
Such a 'wimpy' team... kinda proves that Ovie ain't shit since according to you their only chance at getting a cup was due to it coming from 'the wimpiest of opponents'.
The Penguins have won games without Baby Crosby. Hockey is a team sport, through and through. Sorry if Ovechkin is a more noteworthy player than Crosby. In 30 years from now, Crosby will be just one of a long line of good centers- Toews, Tavares, Backstrom, Francis, Kopitar, Sakic, maybe Messier, etc. But Ovechkin will be a scoring legend sitting one spot above (or below) Gretzky.
A look at the stats. Comparing The 1000 Points Of Sidney Crosby And Alex Ovechkin - The Stats Zone
Some more fun H2H stats - Crosby vs Ovechkin Part II: Head-to-Head

NHL writers, 3 of the 4 take Crosby. Crosby vs. Ovechkin debated by NHL.com writers

Ovi is a great player, just not better than Crosby.
 
Trying to convince me or yourself?

Well the illegitimate team has never missed the playoffs. Seriously, what kind of nonsense are you spewing. What makes them not legitimate? Because you don't like the draft rules?
Yes, VGK are not a legitimate new team because of the draft rules and the unfair way the team was allowed to wield them. No previous team ever had such an advantage.
Such a 'wimpy' team... kinda proves that Ovie ain't shit since according to you their only chance at getting a cup was due to it coming from 'the wimpiest of opponents'.
How so? Tampa Bay was the class of the League that season. Any of the 3 EC teams the Capitals played were superior to Vegas.
A look at the stats. Comparing The 1000 Points Of Sidney Crosby And Alex Ovechkin - The Stats Zone
Some more fun H2H stats - Crosby vs Ovechkin Part II: Head-to-Head

NHL writers, 3 of the 4 take Crosby. Crosby vs. Ovechkin debated by NHL.com writers

Ovi is a great player, just not better than Crosby.
As I said, history won't remember Crosby as that spectacular. It will for Ovechkin. Hell, Dominik Hasek and Patrick Kane will probably be remembered as at least as good as Crosby.
 
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