LOL @ Florida

RP-29 said:
What should be the purpose of a jail/prison sentence?

There are many answers, but mine would be something like: "to pull the criminal out of their criminal element and put them in a position to rehabilitate and become a future functioning member of society."

If a guy is trying to smuggle drugs into prison, he's clearly not rehabilitating. Why do we keep burning $100+/day/inmate of tax money on people who refuse to/cannot rehabilitate?
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The dude was picked up for possessing coke and resisting arrest and you want him killed?

Calm your tits.
 
ill said:
The dude was picked up for possessing coke and resisting arrest and you want him killed?

Calm your tits.
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You calm your tits, Karen! I never said I wanted him killed. I want someone like that rehabilitated. Our jails and prisons should be doing more to rehabilitate the rehabilitatable; not just lock them in a cage.
 
RP-29 said:
You calm your tits, Karen! I never said I wanted him killed. I want someone like that rehabilitated. Our jails and prisons should be doing more to rehabilitate the rehabilitatable; not just lock them in a cage.
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He was going in for possession and he lied about stashing drugs in his leg. Calling it "smuggling" is a bit overdramatic as he was likely just going to use it himself while in the can and it wasn't a lot.
 
Fish said:
Definitely an assclown.
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Oh Fish. Is this you?
quit you brokeback mountain GIF
 
RP-29 said:
I've never been involved in the prison system first-hand, so I have very few good/realistic answers.

From a societal cost perspective, it just doesn't make sense to sentence someone to life in prison without the possibility of parole or multiple life sentences. What we're doing is: "we're going to spend $50,000/year of our tax dollars so you can rot in a cage until you die." A 20 year old living 60 years like that would cost us $3,000,000 over the remainder of his life... ...for one inmate.
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Sounds like an argument for capital punishment... or penal labor. I'm all for capital punishment, but only where there's demonstrated evidence of someone having committed horribly violent offenses against others- typically murder or rape of a child. Penal labor's tricky, because there will always be those critics who ignore what put that person in jail in the first place, just so that they can accuse the state of sponsoring slavery. While there would have to be reasonable checks to ensure that the state wasn't profiting unduly off of it, prisoners could perhaps work their sentence off faster, by having a job.

I get what you're saying about costs. But consider that the victims and their families get nothing, all while the state feeds, clothes and provides medical care for the criminal. It's actually a triple injustice, since then the taxpayers have to pay for prisoner also.
 
Mofo said:
Sounds like an argument for capital punishment... or penal labor. I'm all for capital punishment, but only where there's demonstrated evidence of someone having committed horribly violent offenses against others- typically murder or rape of a child. Penal labor's tricky, because there will always be those critics who ignore what put that person in jail in the first place, just so that they can accuse the state of sponsoring slavery. While there would have to be reasonable checks to ensure that the state wasn't profiting unduly off of it, prisoners could perhaps work their sentence off faster, by having a job.

I get what you're saying about costs. But consider that the victims and their families get nothing, all while the state feeds, clothes and provides medical care for the criminal. It's actually a triple injustice, since then the taxpayers have to pay for prisoner also.
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For possession?
 
RP-29 said:
You calm your tits, Karen! I never said I wanted him killed. I want someone like that rehabilitated. Our jails and prisons should be doing more to rehabilitate the rehabilitatable; not just lock them in a cage.
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That costs even more money tho.

They have work programs, schooling, etc. What else should they have?



The REAL problem isn't inside the walls of the jail, it's outside. The destruction of the nuclear family, decaying morals, nihilism, etc.
 
Jails can't be the only form of rehab.

And rehab isn't going to happen if they aren't interested. I doubt this dude is interested.
 
beardown07 said:
That costs even more money tho.

They have work programs, schooling, etc. What else should they have?



The REAL problem isn't inside the walls of the jail, it's outside. The destruction of the nuclear family, decaying morals, nihilism, etc.
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"Destruction of nuclear family" is the biggest load of bullshit ever.
 
beardown07 said:
That costs even more money tho.

They have work programs, schooling, etc. What else should they have?



The REAL problem isn't inside the walls of the jail, it's outside. The destruction of the nuclear family, decaying morals, nihilism, etc.
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Like I said, I have very little knowledge or answers on this... ...just that what I see is going on isn't working as well as it should. Some things need to be adjusted.

I'm with you 100% on this.
 
RP-29 said:
Like I said, I have very little knowledge or answers on this... ...just that what I see is going on isn't working as well as it should. Some things need to be adjusted.

I'm with you 100% on this.
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I agree that we need some sort of prison reform.
 
RP-29 said:
@ill, you're focused on this one particular person. The rest of us are engaging in a broader discussion.
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I'm focusing on the thread at hand.

If you want a bigger discussion, move this thread to the PF
 
Let's turn him into a pair of cowboy boots! He's already tanned cuz Florida en sech.
 
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