Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

[CoalTrain]

 

[TheBoardRef]

From where all programs currently stand, the only team other than Bama that has a case to be higher than OU is UGA. If last year was a blip and LSU returns to 2019 form, then you can drop everyone else down a spot.

2018 form more likely than 2019. 2019 will never happen again.

 

[outofyourmind]

2018 form more likely than 2019. 2019 will never happen again.

 

[TheBoardRef]

 

[outofyourmind]

People watch Texas so they can see them lose.
I know that's what I do.
There are a lot of us.

That's why their footprint is so large.
We are everywhere.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

And here you go right back to being wrong. Streaming will absolutely affect the value of markets when no cable company can charge what they want because their past customers are now streaming.

You are conflating "streaming" with "cord-cutting." They aren't the same thing. The total that ESPN can pay out will get reduced as more people cut the cord and aren't locked into ESPN that they don't want. That's true for sure. But that just determines how big the pie is. How that pie is divided, however big that pie is, is definitely determined by how many are watching.

 

[Volbound1700]

From where all programs currently stand, the only team other than Bama that has a case to be higher than OU is UGA. If last year was a blip and LSU returns to 2019 form, then you can drop everyone else down a spot.

Even then, UGA has issues with its offense so they have the players but the offensive schemes seem to struggle. I would say Texas A&M is starting to look good, especially with the class they got coming in. Florida is in the mix as well but right now, I would take Oklahoma over Florida.

 

[Goldbug]

I actually worry about Nebraska.. had them beating ou in September as a shocker.. but now that ou is SEC, hard for me to go against my brother.

@Thiefery, OU and Texas hopping into the same foxhole until the shelling calms down is way too much like having to be in a foxhole with a guy you don't really like that much and he farts too much. But ya do what ya gotta do to survive, right?

 

[ralphiewvu]

You are conflating "streaming" with "cord-cutting." They aren't the same thing. The total that ESPN can pay out will get reduced as more people cut the cord and aren't locked into ESPN that they don't want. That's true for sure. But that just determines how big the pie is. How that pie is divided, however big that pie is, is definitely determined by how many are watching.

I’m not conflating anything. To pretend streaming won’t affect the value of markets which is exactly what you said is wrong. It absolutely will affect and eventually kill markets if cable companies can’t charge those premiums to huge cities because everyone is streaming.

 

[Deep Creek]

This appears to be going down. Which sucks as someone who enjoys the history of sport. But what's another couple rivalries down the drain? We've already lost so many because of realignment.

I think we're on the verge of some type of super conference thing here. Who knows what the hell is going to happen?

Was visiting grands this week. DFW scuttlebutt seems to echo your thought but only one "superconference. OU and Texas were the "you go first" scouts for lack of a better term. Many seem to think all this is leading to a final ending of only 30-40 teams being in one huge "league". ANd that league won't try to hide the fact they operate similar to a professional team. These 30-40 will utilize NIL to differentiate them from the others.

 

[occupant]

 

[B_dub]

People watch Texas so they can see them lose.
I know that's what I do.
There are a lot of us.

That's why their footprint is so large.
We are everywhere.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

I’m not conflating anything. To pretend streaming won’t affect the value of markets which is exactly what you said is wrong. It absolutely will affect and eventually kill markets if cable companies can’t charge those premiums to huge cities because everyone is streaming.

JFC ... you have no idea and I am not about to educate you. To be clear, you are saying that "streaming" will make it so there is no market difference between Ohio State and West Virginia. Answer yes to that and you will confirm that you are a moron. Answer no to that and you will confirm your posts are wrong.

 

[Deep Creek]

By the way, if this happens there are going to be some old Ark and Texas fans really happy. I saw one Pod system that had Texas with Arkansas, A&M, and OU. That is actually bringing back some historic rivalry games. I doubt there are many people in the board that actually experienced Texas/Ark rivalry in its heyday, but the stories paint it as an ugly hate filled rivalry

 

[Deep Creek]

They get paid good money for that.
How they use that money is up to them.

If they haven't made major improvements to their programs, that's on them, and it doesn't matter until they all of a sudden, they find themselves needing to make a move, like the remaining Big 12 members.

Ever since we lost Nebraska/Missouri/A&M/Colorado, I knew this conference was never going to make it. It's limped along for years. The writing was on the wall.

The other 8 schools have benefitted greatly from the money networks offered just to have OU and Texas. OU and Texas provide all the milk just like 2-3 in every conference. The others just benefit from sucking the tit IMO. Some have upgraded facilities, etc. But they still don't move the needle nationally or internationally. Hell, look at TCU and Baylor. Both have great facilities now because of Big 12 money...that Texas and OU attract from the networks. But they don't even fill their stadiums all the time....even if they have good teams. And they don't get the eyeballs on them from Bangor, Maine like UT and OU.

 

[Codaxx]

My apologies. Feel free to kick me off your lawn

 

[Volbound1700]

This guy is always good for a laugh:

 

[ralphiewvu]

JFC ... you have no idea and I am not about to educate you. To be clear, you are saying that "streaming" will make it so there is no market difference between Ohio State and West Virginia. Answer yes to that and you will confirm that you are a moron. Answer no to that and you will confirm your posts are wrong.

JFC you pretentious dumbass, we are talking markets as in cities not teams. When streaming becomes universal it won’t fucking matter if it’s in bumblescum WV or New York City. A market isn’t goi g to matter when people can watch any team anywhere by streaming.

For a law educated fellow, you sure are a dumbass. But continue to be wrong.

 

[ericd7633]

WVU can’t and won’t do something like that. They would want the garunteed income from a conference for football. They wouldn’t be able to fill half their schedule.

BYU just agreed to a 7 year contract agreement with ESPN last year. That would be where they'd get guaranteed income from. Then WVU could subsidize their other sports and get more money that way too. Assuming the Big East would want them back, which I'm guessing they would. WVU is a top 25 program the last 15 years IMO.

As far as scheduling, they'd probably be able to field a BYU like type of schedule. Which would be better than a G5 schedule IMO.

 

[occupant]

JFC ... you have no idea and I am not about to educate you. To be clear, you are saying that "streaming" will make it so there is no market difference between Ohio State and West Virginia. Answer yes to that and you will confirm that you are a moron. Answer no to that and you will confirm your posts are wrong.

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