Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

[Deep Creek]

I'd go to the Lake Tenkiller area on weekends with a Seminole Indian babe I was dating. She had family there.

Beautiful country!!!

Yes it is. Broken Bow area is nice. I still get that Deliverance feeling.

 

[Red_Alert]

Other than sheer dollars, which I don't think those programs need, I don't really see how it helps those schools and Texas as well.

I mean if a school like USF wanted to join the SEC, well ... that is a win/win for USF.

Well if you don't see the value in a $20 million/year pay raise for the athletic depts of "South Carolina, Tennessee, and Arkansas" then we don't have anything to talk about.

 

[Thiefery]

I never thought ESPN would make money off the LHN. I'm sure they paid Texas more than they brought in but what the hell do I know. I'm one that doesn't even think conference networks are worth their money. They might as well change the name of of the SEC network to the Paul Finebaum Network.

LHN is the guinea pig that helped them launch the SEC network. They saw the mistakes they did with LHN and corrected them.. like distribution

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

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Ok
That fits into the category of 'nobody cares'
But good to know.

Part of the problem ... it is a great, nasty rivalry. Just because they aren't very good most of the time, doesn't mean it lacks drama. So, yeah, we do care because I've been around it for 50 years. I hate that some of that tradition might go away when the newbies come into the league and don't understand its history. I don't mean that critically against you ... I don't know a lot of the back stories of rivalries in the B12 and it's past conferences like you probably do.

 

[Volbound1700]

LHN is the guinea pig that helped them launch the SEC network. They saw the mistakes they did with LHN and corrected them.. like distribution

I think ESPN is very much also involved and factored into this expansion. It is a win for ESPN as they can get out of LHN and move Texas into their more profitable SEC Network and broadcasting. ESPN won't charge a dime to Texas for leaving the LHN because Texas is helping them.

 

[Myles]

Man, I would be pissed if I were a Texas or Oklahoma fan. They are giving up wins for $$.

 

[Thiefery]

I think ESPN is very much also involved and factored into this expansion. It is a win for ESPN as they can get out of LHN and move Texas into their more profitable SEC Network and broadcasting. ESPN won't charge a dime to Texas for leaving the LHN because Texas is helping them.

yep plus it's going to get absorbed and become a second SEC channel.. headquarters still in Austin

 

[Codaxx]

If the Big 12 had mirrored revenue share like the SEC had in place and had given each member an equal voice at the table no one would have left and you would have a conference network right now and be competitive in other network deals.

aTm left specifically because of the LHN and I would bet that Nebraska would have liked to stay with their natural regional rivalries if the conference had been more stable. They left for stability reasons and took a pay hit for years in order to get stability.

You need to get your head out of the

Like I said, Texas is the Devil is a simple meme, for simple people to hold on to and avoid thinking about complex issues

 

[Deep Creek]

Man, I would be pissed if I were a Texas or Oklahoma fan. They are giving up wins for $$.

Doesn't matter anymore. It is about how much money you can get. Like Jerry Jones' Cowgirls. Biggest money maker in the NFL and hasn't won shit in long time. Not winning is okay as long as the cash in rolling in.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

did we yell Big 12 when VY had a record day vs y'all in a rose bowl..or was it just Texas Fight for 3 and a half hours?

When you are the 3rd or 4th best conference, you don't chant your conference name. As you will find out, you are proud when you are the top dog. It's been a while for you guys, but it'll come back.

 

[Codaxx]

I think A&M also left because they were little burned by the push to go to the Pac"16". Apparently, A&M hated the idea and cited that the group should have went to the SEC instead.

Wasnt going to happen. There was no talk that SEC was willing to take a handful of schools at the time. Guessing negotiations broke down. PAC 10 merger might have changed college football dynamics, but we will never know. Funny to think that taking Utah, might be the reason the PAC is where it is now

 

[Red_Alert]

yep which is why i was so against going to the BiG. People acted as if NE would fill in the void of being a rival, but there wasn't enough time for that to really stick when they did share a conference.

SEC checked all the boxes.. Football, geography, baseball, and even Basketball

yep.. the CBS deal is one of the most underpaid contracts ever.. BTW UT is on par or makes a bit more than the equal shared BiG payout, thanks to the LHN deal. When UT enjoys the next SEC deal, they will be getting well over 65 mil.. CRAZY

Yep.

I actually pointed that out in a post last night.

$35 million (2020 Big 12 payout) + $15 million (LHN) = 50 million

Big 10: $54 million (2020)
SEC: $45 million (2020)

 

[Red_Alert]

This is true, but it's also just a function of when you last negotiated your contract. The B1G just did, the SEC is about to with ESPN taking over from CBS. I kind of look at the SEC and B1G as being the same in money payouts if you average it out over a decent period of time. That said, OU and UT to SEC will clearly put it ahead of a B1G that stands pat. Don't think the B1G will stand pat.

Big 10 FOX/ESPN contract expires in 2023/2024

BTN contract expires in 2032.

 

[occupant]

Hope the SEC also-rans and bottom dwellers enjoyed all those free bowl games.

That shit is over.

 

[Fredmccallyrtr]

SEC 'sources' are saying they expect Oklahoma & Texas to play in the SEC next season.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Defeatist attitude.

He's a pussy, so there's that. See above where he really types "But we’ll never beat Bama." Unfucking real.

 

[outofyourmind]

SEC 'sources' are saying they expect Oklahoma & Texas to play in the SEC next season.

 

[Codaxx]

I think ESPN is very much also involved and factored into this expansion. It is a win for ESPN as they can get out of LHN and move Texas into their more profitable SEC Network and broadcasting. ESPN won't charge a dime to Texas for leaving the LHN because Texas is helping them.

ESPN would live to be done with LHN. It’s a complete disaster and they still owe like 115 million. ESPN would be happy to get out for .50 on the dollar

 

[Goldbug]

Yes it is. Broken Bow area is nice. I still get that Deliverance feeling.

That whole area of southeast Oklahoma is full of places hillbillies might rape you, but there is still good country music down there.

 

[WhosYourDawggy]

Big 10 FOX/ESPN contract expires in 2023/2024

BTN contract expires in 2032.

SEC TV deal in 2023, last negotiated in 2008. You guys last negotiated TV in 2018.

SECN good through 2034, although will be renegotiated with UT and OU joining.

The point I was making is that had we the ability to renegotiate TV in 2018, the numbers would have been different. Disney/ESPN is paying 6x what CBS was paying.

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