What If JFK Wasn’t a Conspiracy

dbldwn711 said:
so that’s a big one IMO. There’s a lot to that and I don’t recall it all right now but let me try to give an accurate and brief synopsis.

Shortly before the Kennedy shooting Oswald tried to kill general walker while he was in his home. The general was seated in his living room watching tv and Oswald approached his home from an adjacent open area behind it. I wanna say there were RR tracks but I’m not sure.

anyway, Oswald used this same rifle and shot at walker while he was sitting in his house. The bullet went thru a window and missed walker. Oswald then fled on foot.

why is this important imo. Couple of reasons. First, if Oswald was in some conspiracy to kill Kennedy why would he risk exposure/getting caught trying to kill walker? Why would whoever he was working with allow that to happen? Second, if Oswald was working alone as I have suggested then this shows that he wanted to kill somebody… anybody and not just Kennedy. This is a big insight into his mental state at the time around the shooting.
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Well said. He took the shot at Walker because he thought Walker a fascist who was trying to push fascistic and oppressive things on people.

He shot and ran. The bullet hit the window frame just slightly, deflected and grazed Walkers hair.

I don’t know the exact distance, but it wasn’t super close.
 
RoyMunson said:
official story doesn't have the first shot as a miss through a tree.
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yup. I agree. I said at the outset that IMO this was one big thing the WC got wrong. In fact, most people now agree that this was wrong.
 
dbldwn711 said:
no… but they just don’t vanish into thin air and leave no trace of ever having been there. Oh… and they don’t make any forensics disappear either.
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only evidence would be what? GSR? Did testing for that exist back then?
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
I agree fully. So what is it about other shooters or the knoll that sticks for you?
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This!!

For those of you who think there was a shooter on the knoll. What piece(s) if evidence do you think support that.
 
dbldwn711 said:
they clearly thought they heard something coming from there but as @Orlando_Eagles said, once they got there they found nothing. No forensic evidence of a shooter.
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People “thought” they heard something, so you’re dismissing those people. Lolzzz

I’m at the hospital, when I get home I’ll have more time to discuss.
 
Nosferatu said:
People “thought” they heard something, so you’re dismissing those people. Lolzzz

I’m at the hospital, when I get home I’ll have more time to discuss.
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damn… hope you’re ok.

im not dismissing those people. Lots of people thought that. they can’t just be dismissed. The fact that lots heard it supports that those thoughts were legitimate meaning someone isn’t making them up. However, there’s simply no forensic evidence to support that there was a shooter there. I’m not dismissing those people. I’m simply saying that they probably all heard the same echos.
 
RoyMunson said:
single shot fired from bolt action rifle leaves no spent shell.
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whoa! Stop there. Three shell casings were found on the 6th floor from where Oswald shot. Also, the witneses who were on the 5th floor directly below Oswald at the time of the shooting said they HEARD the shell casings hit the floor above them.

what you said above is simply not accurate.
 
dbldwn711 said:
damn… hope you’re ok.

im not dismissing those people. Lots of people thought that. they can’t just be dismissed. The fact that lots heard it supports that those thoughts were legitimate meaning someone isn’t making them up. However, there’s simply no forensic evidence to support that there was a shooter there. I’m not dismissing those people. I’m simply saying that they probably all heard the same echos.
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When it came to the shots there were two major groups. Those that heard it from the knoll, and those that sourced it quickly to the building. In many of those cases the difference can be explained by familiarity with firearms. Those familiar with them often sourced to the building.

If you’re not familiar with the sounds you’re more easily fooled by any bouncing around. It’s not dismissing them. It’s just not crediting them as an ear-witness as high as others.
 
RoyMunson said:
single shot fired from bolt action rifle leaves no spent shell.
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The Carcano is Italian and built from their engineering. The Carcano does release its brass when you run the bolt for a new round.
 
Here are the pictures of the shell casings found on the 6th floor

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of interest is that 2 are close together while the third is by itself. This makes some believe that Oswald moved after firing his first shot (that missed) in order to get a better vantage point.
 
dbldwn711 said:
whoa! Stop there. Three shell casings were found on the 6th floor from where Oswald shot. Also, the witneses who were on the 5th floor directly below Oswald at the time of the shooting said they HEARD the shell casings hit the floor above them.

what you said above is simply not accurate.
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oswald cycled rounds through the rifle.

If I fire a shot with a bolt action and don't pull the bolt back, no shell is ejected.

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Orlando_Eagles said:
The Carcano is Italian and built from their engineering. The Carcano does release its brass when you run the bolt for a new round.
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the shooter on the grassy knoll used the same rifle as Oswald?
 
Orlando_Eagles said:
The Carcano is Italian and built from their engineering. The Carcano does release its brass when you run the bolt for a new round.
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if you fire one shot and don't cycle the bolt, how many shells are ejected?
 
RoyMunson said:
the shooter on the grassy knoll used the same rifle as Oswald?
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had to. If there was a shooter on the grassy knoll and he hit the President in the head as people are claiming then the ballistics (including the type of bullet used) would have to match. I mean how could a second shooter have used a different type of gun, hit the President but left no forensic evidence?
 
dbldwn711 said:
no… but they just don’t vanish into thin air and leave no trace of ever having been there. Oh… and they don’t make any forensics disappear either.
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What evidence would be left behind?

It isn’t hard to not leave shell casing behind when firing a rifle.
 
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