How bad would Nebraska have beaten Michigan in 1997?

You validated Michigan's claim? LOL in what way? Talking about a common opponent.

Fucking A you guys are a laugh today. Did you guys coordinate this?


Both teams were undefeated - Nebraska had a philosophy where they would run up the score on much weaker teams in a conference that was inferior. It still continues, teams are leaving that conference for better competition. The only way to measure the teams is a common opponent. They had one Colorado.

Nebraska 27 - Colorado 24

Michigan 27 - Colorado 3

AP Poll - 1. Michigan (51.5 votes) 2. Nebraska (18 votes)

Coaches Poll - Nebraska (32 votes) 2. Michigan (30 votes)

A person could safely presume that there were sympathy votes for Nebraska because it was Tom Osborne's last season.

If thinking Nebraska was the better team helps Nebraska cope with their current mediocre team. I would rather look toward the future to cope with my mediocre team. Maybe even a win against ohio state this year.

Looking for your rationale that Nebraska was better. Other than we have more Nebraska people and Michigan haters. You had a coach that believe in running up the score and we had a coach that believed running up the score was classless. Nebraska played 4 ranked teams, and Michigan played 7 ranked teams.
 
Looking for your rationale that Nebraska was better. Other than we have more Nebraska people and Michigan haters. You had a coach that believe in running up the score and we had a coach that believed running up the score was classless. Nebraska played 4 ranked teams, and Michigan played 7 ranked teams.
I literally disproved your whole "running up the score". Is this a joke?

Go read post 100. This is stupid ridiculous.
 
I swear you are the only one that struggles this hard with the english language. You are right... I know what I meant, and I said what I meant. I think either team could win.

You make pitying you too easy.

But that is kind of the point, they were a flash in the pan. Or are you saying an undefeated team is nearly as good as a 4 loss team?

Yeah I am, because I do doubt that they would win. I would not be surprised at all if Nebraska won. I wouldn't be surprised if Miami won either.

Ah fuck, I think I just confused ralphie again.

That's because you're stupid.

Difference, Nebraska had the game controlled and won leading 31-17 going into the 4th quarter. Miami didn't you idiot. And anyone that watched the BC game knows that was practically their miracle game... you see, they are even more like 97 than you think.

"However, in the final minute of the fourth quarter, with Miami clinging to a 12–7 lead, BC quarterback Brian St. Pierre led the Eagles from their own 30-yard line all the way down to the Hurricanes' 9-yard line. With BC on the verge of a momentous upset, St. Pierre attempted to pass to receiver Ryan Read at the Miami 2-yard line. However, the ball ricocheted off the leg of Miami cornerback Mike Rumph, landing in the hands of defensive end Matt Walters. Walters ran ten yards with the ball before teammate Ed Reed grabbed the ball out of his hands at around the Miami 20-yard line and raced the remaining 80-yards for a touchdown. Miami won 18–7."

See above. Mo-ron.

Just like they did against Va Tech.

Being rivals matters. Teams often get up for those games regardless of current record.

"At all" as in "period" as in I doubt Miami could win at all... or I doubt Miami could win period. Meaning that I think Nebraska has a fair shot.

Damn, is reading that fucking difficult for you?
You are a fucking moron To think at all means 50/50. A fucking moron.

You make calling you a biased husker too easy.

VPI the program wasn’t a flash in the pan Program. Spare me any more of that argument please.

Dont say you doubt someone would win at all and then come back and say you meant 50/50. That’s bullshit and you know it. And you are calling someone else stupid?

BC finished ranked. Miami was still leading, the whole damn game. UCF was a 5 win team.

Absolutely they hung on vs a top 15 VPI, after they were up 20-3 at the half.

Your last few sentences is pure stupidity. You trying to flip this around to be something else is bullshit and you know it.
 
You are a fucking moron To think at all means 50/50. A fucking moron.
you are the only one having a hard time with it. Sure you aren't the moron here?
You make calling you a biased husker too easy.
Sure, except I have pretty easily refuted everything and substantiated plenty.... ya know, with facts and stats.
VPI the program wasn’t a flash in the pan Program. Spare me any more of that argument please.
It was 100% a flash in the pan in that regard, point to me ONE other time they made it to the big game?
Dont say you doubt someone would win at all and then come back and say you meant 50/50. That’s bullshit and you know it. And you are calling someone else stupid?
Yes I am, you. Again, you are the only one that had trouble with this.
BC finished ranked.
As did Missouri. Both miracle games, both opponents finished ranked.
Miami was still leading, the whole damn game.
by 2. Big whoop. And they trailed Va Tech by 3 after a quarter. Who cares?
UCF was a 5 win team.
Again and?
Absolutely they hung on vs a top 15 VPI, after they were up 20-3 at the half.
Again, and? BTW, Va Tech finished 18th.
Your last few sentences is pure stupidity. You trying to flip this around to be something else is bullshit and you know it.
Again, you are the only person having trouble with the english language here.
 
Can we lock all of the Nebraska fans and Ralphie into one board so they stop bickering in every thread?
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you are the only one having a hard time with it. Sure you aren't the moron here?

Sure, except I have pretty easily refuted everything and substantiated plenty.... ya know, with facts and stats.

It was 100% a flash in the pan in that regard, point to me ONE other time they made it to the big game?

Yes I am, you. Again, you are the only one that had trouble with this.

As did Missouri. Both miracle games, both opponents finished ranked.

by 2. Big whoop. And they trailed Va Tech by 3 after a quarter. Who cares?

Again and?

Again, and? BTW, Va Tech finished 18th.

Again, you are the only person having trouble with the english language here.
Ralphie dun't reed deh anglush sow gud.
 
you are the only one having a hard time with it. Sure you aren't the moron here?

Sure, except I have pretty easily refuted everything and substantiated plenty.... ya know, with facts and stats.

It was 100% a flash in the pan in that regard, point to me ONE other time they made it to the big game?

Yes I am, you. Again, you are the only one that had trouble with this.

As did Missouri. Both miracle games, both opponents finished ranked.

by 2. Big whoop. And they trailed Va Tech by 3 after a quarter. Who cares?

Again and?

Again, and? BTW, Va Tech finished 18th.

Again, you are the only person having trouble with the english language here.
No one is arguing for you on this here, so you saying I’m the only one having a hard time with it is bullshit.

Refuted what? You went back now on something you clearly claimed. You didn’t refute shit.

Not Making the big game doesn’t mean a programs a flash in the pan. VPI in that 10 year span finished in the top 10 6 times. That’s not some flash in the pan.

No one has come to your defense on this. But I’m the only one that doesn’t understand?

BC was not a miracle game. Instead of winning 12-7, Miami won 18-7.

Miami was up on tech 20-3 at the half. They turned off the gas just as I’m sure you’d make the argument NU did some games too.

And it was a 14 point game, to a 5 win team. Yet you are giving Miami shit for an 11 point game to a team that finished in the top 25.

My mistake, thought VPI was top 15. They were when they played but I was going by end of season rankings, good catch.

It makes no sense to say ”I doubt a teams wins at all” and then equate that with meaning a team would win 50% of the time.
 
Can we lock all of the Nebraska fans and Ralphie into one board so they stop bickering in every thread?
Say what you want about the others but at least blackshirts sticks on sports. I give him credit for that.
 
Not Making the big game doesn’t mean a programs a flash in the pan. VPI in that 10 year span finished in the top 10 6 times. That’s not some flash in the pan.


Hadn't really thought about this before.
Not sure what you call 10 good years.

@ralphiewvu
How many years is a 'flash in the pan' ?? 4-5 maybe? as little as 2-3
 
This is some funny shit.

Both teams had great D's. But Nebraska's offense was # 1 in the country. That team in ann arbor was 48th. Advantage Huskers.

'97 Nebraska > '97 UofM
 
Hadn't really thought about this before.
Not sure what you call 10 good years.

@ralphiewvu
How many years is a 'flash in the pan' ?? 4-5 maybe? as little as 2-3
It’s an interesting topic. Everyone probably has a different set of standards but good programs don’t necessarily have to make an NC appearance IMO. You could make an argument WVU from 05-07 was a flash in the pan. 3 awesome years and then back to being mediocre with some of that mediocre in the Big East. Not everyone will agree on a definition of it. But VPI from 99-09 finished in the top 10 6 years, that’s damn good.
 
No one is arguing for you on this here, so you saying I’m the only one having a hard time with it is bullshit.
No one needs to because they understood. It isn't bullshit, its proof. LOL
Refuted what? You went back now on something you clearly claimed. You didn’t refute shit.
The only thing I changed on was from saying that Miami would win to saying that 97 Nebraska would have a good shot.
Not Making the big game doesn’t mean a programs a flash in the pan. VPI in that 10 year span finished in the top 10 6 times. That’s not some flash in the pan.
Va Tech is ranked all the time, we aren't talking about rankings, we were talking about National titles. Again, name me just ONE other time Va Tech made it to the big game. You can't because their ONE appearance was.... say it with me.... a flash in the pan.
No one has come to your defense on this. But I’m the only one that doesn’t understand?
No one needs to come to my defense, I am not the one in needing of a defense. You are the one that doesn't understand. Again, the fact that no one has said anything remotely similar to you shows that YOU are the one that doesn't understand.
BC was not a miracle game. Instead of winning 12-7, Miami won 18-7.
Go on, lie to yourself so more. It only required a kicked ball into the air being caught by Miami.... just like the Missouri game.
Miami was up on tech 20-3 at the half. They turned off the gas just as I’m sure you’d make the argument NU did some games too.
Oh, but Nebraska being up on UCF 31-17 entering the 4th quarter means different.

Mental gymnastics. :rolleyes:
And it was a 14 point game, to a 5 win team. Yet you are giving Miami shit for an 11 point game to a team that finished in the top 25.
No, I am giving Miami shit for barely winning and dumbasses like you trying to claim some sort of elite team status because of irrelevant things that happened after the cfb season.
It makes no sense to say ”I doubt a teams wins at all” and then equate that with meaning a team would win 50% of the time.
I don't know how else to explain it to you. You don't have to like it, but you have to put up with it, just like I have to put up with your incoherent reading ability.
 
No one needs to because they understood. It isn't bullshit, its proof. LOL

The only thing I changed on was from saying that Miami would win to saying that 97 Nebraska would have a good shot.

Va Tech is ranked all the time, we aren't talking about rankings, we were talking about National titles. Again, name me just ONE other time Va Tech made it to the big game. You can't because their ONE appearance was.... say it with me.... a flash in the pan.

No one needs to come to my defense, I am not the one in needing of a defense. You are the one that doesn't understand. Again, the fact that no one has said anything remotely similar to you shows that YOU are the one that doesn't understand.

Go on, lie to yourself so more. It only required a kicked ball into the air being caught by Miami.... just like the Missouri game.

Oh, but Nebraska being up on UCF 31-17 entering the 4th quarter means different.

Mental gymnastics. :rolleyes:

No, I am giving Miami shit for barely winning and dumbasses like you trying to claim some sort of elite team status because of irrelevant things that happened after the cfb season.

I don't know how else to explain it to you. You don't have to like it, but you have to put up with it, just like I have to put up with your incoherent reading ability.

So going by that First statement, no one had to back me up ether because it’s proof? lolz

So you did infact change your mind. That’s no problem, but don’t try and tell you meant 50/50 when clearly you didn’t.

Making the national championship isn’t required for a program to be good. I clearly stated Va Tech was a good team and program not some flash in the pan that was good only a few years.

Actually yeah it would absolutely help when claiming I’m the only one that doesn’t get it. Literally no one has come here to tell you they get it. So stop saying I’m the only one that doesn’t get it.

Except, Miami was winning the BC game. That’s not a miracle. Nebraska needed that kicked ball to land in the receivers hands to force overtime. Miami didn’t need those points to win. See the difference?

It doesn’t mean different much, which brings us back to the original argument of ridiculous claim you made about Miami struggling with VPI and BC. NU struggled some games too. But I’m sure you “doubt that at all.”

You are giving Miami shit to prop up a Nebraska 90’s team. It’s the same shit I can call you out on for Nebraska doing too. Which is the whole original argument.

You literally say “the more I think about it I doubt Miami wins at all.” How in the actual fuck does that mean you think Miami would still win. 50% of the time? Stop being a dumbass and doubling down and just admit you didn’t mean that.
 
So going by that First statement, no one had to back me up ether because it’s proof? lolz
You made a claim about your inference on my words.... in order to substantiate your claim, you would need support... which you don't have.
So you did infact change your mind. That’s no problem, but don’t try and tell you meant 50/50 when clearly you didn’t.
I changed my mind from Miami winning to it being 50/50... WTF is so hard about this?
Making the national championship isn’t required for a program to be good. I clearly stated Va Tech was a good team and program not some flash in the pan that was good only a few years.
You explicitly cited their national title run from 2 years prior and then claim that they weren't a flash in the pan because 2 years later they were ranked 18th? You make the dumbest arguments.
Actually yeah it would absolutely help when claiming I’m the only one that doesn’t get it. Literally no one has come here to tell you they get it. So stop saying I’m the only one that doesn’t get it.
Because no one takes the time to stop to tell people they understand things you moron. You clarify things you don't understand, not the shit you do. How the fuck do you have conversations with people in real life?
Except, Miami was winning the BC game. That’s not a miracle.
It is. BC was driving, inside the Miami 10 yard line with under a minute to go in the game. A lucky kick up from a pass landed in Miamis hands that allowed them to win the game.
Nebraska needed that kicked ball to land in the receivers hands to force overtime. Miami didn’t need those points to win. See the difference?
I see a ball being kicked up that in essence decided the fates of both games. See the similarity?
It doesn’t mean different much, which brings us back to the original argument of ridiculous claim you made about Miami struggling with VPI and BC.
That's not ridiculous. That is a fact. They struggled against those teams.
NU struggled some games too.
I never once denied that 97 Nebraska did not struggle. Actually, I claimed multiple times in this thread that 97 Nebraska struggled with 2 teams as well.
You are giving Miami shit to prop up a Nebraska 90’s team.
It's pretty easy too. When you look at the seasons, 01 Miami and 97 Nebraska are similar in what they did, very much so in fact.
It’s the same shit I can call you out on for Nebraska doing too. Which is the whole original argument.
Which is?
You literally say “the more I think about it I doubt Miami wins at all.” How in the actual fuck does that mean you think Miami would still win. 50% of the time? Stop being a dumbass and doubling down and just admit you didn’t mean that.
I already explained it. Go back and read it again and if you still don't understand, do it again, and if you still don't.... ask @NU_FTW to explain it to you because apparently I can't dumb it down enough.
 
You made a claim about your inference on my words.... in order to substantiate your claim, you would need support... which you don't have.

I changed my mind from Miami winning to it being 50/50... WTF is so hard about this?

You explicitly cited their national title run from 2 years prior and then claim that they weren't a flash in the pan because 2 years later they were ranked 18th? You make the dumbest arguments.

Because no one takes the time to stop to tell people they understand things you moron. You clarify things you don't understand, not the shit you do. How the fuck do you have conversations with people in real life?

It is. BC was driving, inside the Miami 10 yard line with under a minute to go in the game. A lucky kick up from a pass landed in Miamis hands that allowed them to win the game.

I see a ball being kicked up that in essence decided the fates of both games. See the similarity?

That's not ridiculous. That is a fact. They struggled against those teams.

I never once denied that 97 Nebraska did not struggle. Actually, I claimed multiple times in this thread that 97 Nebraska struggled with 2 teams as well.

It's pretty easy too. When you look at the seasons, 01 Miami and 97 Nebraska are similar in what they did, very much so in fact.

Which is?

I already explained it. Go back and read it again and if you still don't understand, do it again, and if you still don't.... ask @NU_FTW to explain it to you because apparently I can't dumb it down enough.
LOL ive attempted to explain the english language to him, he just doesnt get it. No matter what you write, he reads something different that fits his retarded agenda. 100% of the time ralphie is wrong.
 
You made a claim about your inference on my words.... in order to substantiate your claim, you would need support... which you don't have.

I changed my mind from Miami winning to it being 50/50... WTF is so hard about this?

You explicitly cited their national title run from 2 years prior and then claim that they weren't a flash in the pan because 2 years later they were ranked 18th? You make the dumbest arguments.

Because no one takes the time to stop to tell people they understand things you moron. You clarify things you don't understand, not the shit you do. How the fuck do you have conversations with people in real life?

It is. BC was driving, inside the Miami 10 yard line with under a minute to go in the game. A lucky kick up from a pass landed in Miamis hands that allowed them to win the game.

I see a ball being kicked up that in essence decided the fates of both games. See the similarity?

That's not ridiculous. That is a fact. They struggled against those teams.

I never once denied that 97 Nebraska did not struggle. Actually, I claimed multiple times in this thread that 97 Nebraska struggled with 2 teams as well.

It's pretty easy too. When you look at the seasons, 01 Miami and 97 Nebraska are similar in what they did, very much so in fact.

Which is?

I already explained it. Go back and read it again and if you still don't understand, do it again, and if you still don't.... ask @NU_FTW to explain it to you because apparently I can't dumb it down enough.

What claim did I make? You said I was the only one that didn’t get it. You then state you don’t need anyone it’s just proof. You are a special kind of stupid on this one.

YA STATED “I doubt Miami wins at all”. I’m glad you changed your mind but that statement doesn’t mean 50/50.

I stated the program. You keep ignoring this. Stop.

Stop being the fucking dipshit and saying im the only one that doesn’t get it. No one has come to your defense because no one believes what you are trying you say ya meant.

If Miami doesn’t intercept that they still win the game. If Nebraska doesn’t catch that they lose the game. See the difference? It’s not the same thing. Miami was up, Nebraska was losing.

The claim is ridiculous when using it as a reason for why 97 Nebraska beats 01Miami.

The original argument was you giving Miami shit for close games but ignoring Nebraska’s while stating 97 Nebraska beats 01 Miami. Both had close games, but Miami’s close games weren’t with bad teams.

You didn’t explain it, you gave some bullshit excuse which made no fucking sense to not even NU is chiming in to address it. Only you think doubt at all means 50/50. Did I dumb that done enough for you?
 
LOL ive attempted to explain the english language to him, he just doesnt get it. No matter what you write, he reads something different that fits his retarded agenda. 100% of the time ralphie is wrong.

“I doubt Miami wins at all” means someone thinks Miami wins 50% of the time? How about we keep this civil and you answer this question.
 
Vick wasn't the best passer, but he was capable. But who out there at the QB spot now is as fast and as athletic as Vick was?

Just off the top of my head without researching, here is my list:

1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tua Togaveula
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Cam Newton
5. DeShawn Watson
6. Jalen Hurd
7. Justin Fields
8. Johnny Manziel
9. Vince Young
10. JaMarcus Russell
11. Russell Wilson
12. Tim Tebow
13. Marcus Mariota
14. Chris Leak
15. Steve Slaton


Granted some where not as fast as Vick but they had the same duel threat potential. It is starting to get where those players are common in CFB teams though.
 
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