How bad would Nebraska have beaten Michigan in 1997?

Volbound1700 said:
Just off the top of my head without researching, here is my list:

1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tua Togaveula
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Cam Newton
5. DeShawn Watson
6. Jalen Hurd
7. Justin Fields
8. Johnny Manziel
9. Vince Young
10. JaMarcus Russell
11. Russell Wilson
12. Tim Tebow
13. Marcus Mariota
14. Chris Leak
15. Steve Slaton


Granted some where not as fast as Vick but they had the same duel threat potential. It is starting to get where those players are common in CFB teams though.
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Kyler Murray
 
ralphiewvu said:
“I doubt Miami wins at all” means someone thinks Miami wins 50% of the time? How about we keep this civil and you answer this question.
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it could mean that to him, it is clearly a uncertain answer therefore the potential is open to be 50/50 it could be 60/40 or 70/30 or 80/20 or 20/80 or 40/60 or any variable of degree of doubt, that is the thing about doubt, it is UNCERTAIN... if it is uncertain it is undefined if it is undefined it can mean whatever the hell he says he means by it there are no mental gymnastics needed i havent followed the whole thread but from your simple quote it could mean that it could mean anything really and the original person who made the statement would have the sole discretion over its meaning.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Just off the top of my head without researching, here is my list:

1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tua Togaveula
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Cam Newton
5. DeShawn Watson
6. Jalen Hurd
7. Justin Fields
8. Johnny Manziel
9. Vince Young
10. JaMarcus Russell
11. Russell Wilson
12. Tim Tebow
13. Marcus Mariota
14. Chris Leak
15. Steve Slaton


Granted some where not as fast as Vick but they had the same duel threat potential. It is starting to get where those players are common in CFB teams though.
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Lets be real, you're not old enough to post here right?
 
NU_FTW said:
it could mean that to him, it is clearly a uncertain answer therefore the potential is open to be 50/50 it could be 60/40 or 70/30 or 80/20 or 20/80 or 40/60 or any variable of degree of doubt, that is the thing about doubt, it is UNCERTAIN... if it is uncertain it is undefined if it is undefined it can mean whatever the hell he says he means by it there are no mental gymnastics needed i havent followed the whole thread but from your simple quote it could mean that it could mean anything really and the original person who made the statement would have the sole discretion over its meaning.
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How hard did you laugh writing this? You may have a point if he didn’t say AT ALL. In no logical way could the person using “i doubt Miami wins AT ALL“ mean I think they have a 50/50 shot. I’m asking you to be logical here because lord knows if this was the other way around you two, RA and about 4 others would be in here pounding me on what was said.
 
If you want to see how Nebraska teams of old would do in modern football just look at Wisconsin or Paul Johnson's Georgia Tech teams. They run similar offenses with similar talent.
 
NU_FTW said:
Lets be real, you're not old enough to post here right?
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Translation: I have lost the argument and my homeroom is exposed. When Nebraska was good, most teams ran the ball constantly and there wasn't innovative offenses like the spread, Air raid, or wild hog yet. CFP since Nebraska's heyday.
 
Volbound1700 said:
Translation: I have lost the argument and my homeroom is exposed. When Nebraska was good, most teams ran the ball constantly and there wasn't innovative offenses like the spread, Air raid, or wild hog yet. CFP since Nebraska's heyday.
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What argument have i lost?

Ive noticed many many stupid mistakes on your part, mistakes that only a juvenile could possibly make.
 
ralphiewvu said:
How hard did you laugh writing this? You may have a point if he didn’t say AT ALL. In no logical way could the person using “i doubt Miami wins AT ALL“ mean I think they have a 50/50 shot. I’m asking you to be logical here because lord knows if this was the other way around you two, RA and about 4 others would be in here pounding me on what was said.
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I laugh at every post of yours, your retardation and inability to grasp the english language is simply amusing.

Most the time we dont bother with you because we know that no matter what is said you are going to not be able to understand it, im not even arguing in this thread because facts stand alone, we know you dont understand and dont bother.

Lack of support from 4 other huskers is not indicative of you being a "winner" lmfao you're no different than MNB (and i mean all aspects of his presence on this board, most of which are not in CFB)

No matter the facts you dig in on your retardation because you "see" it one way when the rest of the world sees it exactly as written and intended. You just like to read into shit like a drunk woman, shit that isnt there, constantly reading into shit and then you believe your own bs like MNB does the MSM.
 
NU_FTW said:
I laugh at every post of yours, your retardation and inability to grasp the english language is simply amusing.

Most the time we dont bother with you because we know that no matter what is said you are going to not be able to understand it, im not even arguing in this thread because facts stand alone, we know you dont understand and dont bother.

Lack of support from 4 other huskers is not indicative of you being a "winner" lmfao you're no different than MNB (and i mean all aspects of his presence on this board, most of which are not in CFB)

No matter the facts you dig in on your retardation because you "see" it one way when the rest of the world sees it exactly as written and intended. You just like to read into shit like a drunk woman, shit that isnt there, constantly reading into shit and then you believe your own bs like MNB does the MSM.
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Translation: you have nothing to combat what I just stated. You just jump right into the insults because that’s all you have. It’s ok, I didn’t expect anything less because I know how you are.
 
outofyourmind said:
Kyler Murray
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Yeah, he definitely deserves to be on the list, I also forgot other ones:

1. Lamar Jackson
2. Jameis Winston
3. Kenny Hill

There are probably many more than I am forgetting as well. Michael Vick was the first real dual-threat QB but since him, there have been tons of other QBs. Heck, it is a common staple in the game now.

These dual threat QBs changed the way the game was played because blitzes no longer worked as they did in the past because the QBs could generally run around and avoid blitzing defenders.
 
Nebraska and Michigan arguing about a season played 23-4 years ago? Is this because they have no chance this year and both of their Savior coaches are starting to get a warm chair.

And Nebraska had best start to worry about Illinois.
 
Kburjr said:
Nebraska and Michigan arguing about a season played 23-4 years ago? Is this because they have no chance this year and both of their Savior coaches are starting to get a warm chair.

And Nebraska had best start to worry about Illinois.
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To be fair to both fanbases, I understand the reasoning. Fans have no control over the performance of their team and it is fun to talk about your good teams. It sucks that historical programs continue to slide. It would be nice to see teams like Michigan, Miami, Nebraska, and my Vols teams get competitive again.
 
Volbound1700 said:
To be fair to both fanbases, I understand the reasoning. Fans have no control over the performance of their team and it is fun to talk about your good teams. It sucks that historical programs continue to slide. It would be nice to see teams like Michigan, Miami, Nebraska, and my Vols teams get competitive again.
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I have slipped into 'this season' mode.
 
ralphiewvu said:
What claim did I make? You said I was the only one that didn’t get it. You then state you don’t need anyone it’s just proof. You are a special kind of stupid on this one.
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Omg. The claim you made was telling me what my words mean. That is your claim. Does that help you? Yes, I don't need anyone to acknowledge that they understand, because THAT IS HOW CONVERSATIONS WORK. If you are telling a story to two different people, the first person nods and says nothing and the second person asks a question, WHO DO YOU THINK NEEDS THE CLARIFICATION? You don't clarify things people understand. So again, you are the only one commenting on that specific wording, hence everyone else likely understood.
ralphiewvu said:
YA STATED “I doubt Miami wins at all”. I’m glad you changed your mind but that statement doesn’t mean 50/50.
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I am sure it means whatever you want it to ralphie.
ralphiewvu said:
I stated the program. You keep ignoring this. Stop.
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YA STATED: "Spare me the schedule bullshit and how VPI (who was in the NC game 2 years prior) is a reason to give Miami shit for it being close."

Then I stated: "What does a Va Tech team from 2 years prior have to do with anything??"

Then you stated: "You are the one to bring them up forgetting they were a top 25 team and Miami held on after an early lead, away. Me bringing up VPI from 2 years prior was to show they weren’t just some flash in the pan, they were a good program and a good team."

To which I responded with: "But that is kind of the point, they were a flash in the pan. Or are you saying an undefeated team is nearly as good as a 4 loss team?"

Then you said: "VPI the program wasn’t a flash in the pan Program. Spare me any more of that argument please."


Tell me, if being ranked is the standard for being a "good" team (and I am not necessarily debating that), and VaTech was ranked..... then why did you feel the need to bring up their flash in the pan National Title run?
ralphiewvu said:
Stop being the fucking dipshit and saying im the only one that doesn’t get it. No one has come to your defense because no one believes what you are trying you say ya meant.
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Again bro, no one needs to come to my defense, because you don't clarify things that people understand. There is no reason for anyone to come and say 'yeah, I get what you mean' when I never asked if they needed help or clarification.

You are, in fact (at least at the moment), are the ONLY one that doesn't get it. If someone else says they don't get it as well, I will be the first to let you know.
ralphiewvu said:
If Miami doesn’t intercept that they still win the game. If Nebraska doesn’t catch that they lose the game. See the difference? It’s not the same thing. Miami was up, Nebraska was losing.
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The quote I gave earlier that said BC was on the verge of upsetting Miami prior to the kicked up INT, was from Miami football media themselves btw.

The truly hilarious part in all of this is that you claim 01 Miami to be the GOAT and yet I am able to make arguments to how they are similar to 97 Nebraska in what Miami accomplished. That is probably Nebraskas WORST national title winning team. You think they could compare to 71 or 95 Nebraska

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ralphiewvu said:
The claim is ridiculous when using it as a reason for why 97 Nebraska beats 01Miami.
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I am not using any of this as a reason to why 97 Nebraska would beat Miami. Idk if they would, I wouldn't be surprised if they did....

01 Miami - #3 offense, #1 defense. Scored 43ppg, allowed 10ppg.

97 Nebraska - #1 offense, #5 defense. Scored 47ppgs, allowed 16ppg.

Both had 2 close road games, one of which was in essence decided by a kicked ball, it's honestly pretty fucking crazy if you ask me.
ralphiewvu said:
The original argument was you giving Miami shit for close games but ignoring Nebraska’s while stating 97 Nebraska beats 01 Miami. Both had close games, but Miami’s close games weren’t with bad teams.
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1. I didn't ignore anything. Again, read the thread. Colorado was talked about, as was UCF, as was Missouri.
2. I never said that Nebraska would beat Miami.
ralphiewvu said:
You didn’t explain it, you gave some bullshit excuse which made no fucking sense to not even NU is chiming in to address it. Only you think doubt at all means 50/50. Did I dumb that done enough for you?
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I have explained it too many times. If you can't realize that nor understand from my explanation, then Idk what to tell you. I am not trained in explaining things to children, so Idk how to make you understand.
 
Kburjr said:
(1) Nebraska and Michigan arguing about a season played 23-4 years ago? (2) Is this because they have no chance this year and both of their Savior coaches are starting to get a warm chair.

(3) And Nebraska had best start to worry about Illinois.
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(1) 100% Agree

(2) Harbaugh deserves to be on the hot seat ... Scott Frost not so much, I think he's gonna be a good coach at Nebraska.

(3) Michigan needs to worry about Western Michigan as well!!
 
Volbound1700 said:
Just off the top of my head without researching, here is my list:

1. Robert Griffin III
2. Tua Togaveula
3. Josh Dobbs
4. Cam Newton
5. DeShawn Watson
6. Jalen Hurd
7. Justin Fields
8. Johnny Manziel
9. Vince Young
10. JaMarcus Russell
11. Russell Wilson
12. Tim Tebow
13. Marcus Mariota
14. Chris Leak
15. Steve Slaton


Granted some where not as fast as Vick but they had the same duel threat potential. It is starting to get where those players are common in CFB teams though.
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Then that's bullshit. You said there are 15 Michael Vicks right now, I thought that meant you were saying people that were as fast and as athletic, that's just not true and verified by your list here.

Dual threat QBs, yes, but even still, Nebraska has had 'dual threat' QBs for decades before Vick and Nebraska wasn't the only one. So if you aren't actually comparing them to Vick and just using Vick as a general dual threat definition, then ok, but that is dumb.
 
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