tOfficial PAC-12 Thread

trojanfan12 said:
Wrong again. I'm not "excited" about anything. It's way too early in the process to be excited or upset about any name. Because most of the names out there will never even be seriously discussed. I'm glad they're thinking big because previous AD didn't and that has been a big part of the problem. Now, they appear to be, so it's a step in the right direction.

If they get someone I really like, then I'll get excited. But even then, I still won't be all that excited because, as Kliff Kingsbury showed, hiring someone to coach your team, doesn't mean they'll be coaching your team when the season starts. Or, for that matter, even when the first practice starts.

Except, outside of Palmer saying Tomlin was mentioned, you still can't find anyone with USC getting excited or thinking Tomlin was a realistic target. All you nave is media, most of whom have never spoken to anyone from USC about it, taking something and running with it and geniuses like you showing how little you know about how these coaching searches work.

In fact, since it was mentioned oh his show, Dan Patrick has spent a good chunk of his show explaining what actually was said and how Tomlin was merely one of the names that were thrown out there.
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Ok so taking out the distractions (Tomlin, KK, etc), who are the real options for USC?
 
trojanfan12 said:
Clearly, everyone but you does know that.
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Quite the opposite, it’s why I laughed at your post about Tomlin originally. Everyone knew it wasn’t serious. I was surprised to see Tomlin mock the rumor publicly but of course that would be his reaction
 
trojanfan12 said:
The funny thing is, none of this has been going on with USC. USC is basically putting together their wish list. So folks involved in the decisions have basically been getting together and saying "Hey, what about this guy?"

Other than Carson Palmer on Monday, no one from USC has has even mentioned anyone publicly re: their search. Although I'm sure some of the names mentioned have been intentionally leaked.

USC is doing exactly what they should be doing. I'm sure that when Tomlin's name came up, it was something like "Hey he's been there 15 years, Roethlisberger is retiring soon, maybe he'll be looking to move on?" There was probably a minute or 2 of discussion before they moved on to another name.

This didn't even come from LA media, it came from an interview on Dan Patrick and was actually picked up more by the national media than LA media and dumbasses like duckboy actually thought a contract was drawn up and an offer made.

The funniest part is that USC was never even mentioned in Tomlin's presser. The reporter only asked about college football and Tomlin only mentioned college football in his answer. Obviously, everyone knew he meant USC, although prior to that another media person mentioned LSU being competition for Tomlin, but USC was still never mentioned.
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You think I thought a contract was drawn up? That’s some serious projection. I doubt USCs AD even discussed Tomlin
 
duckboy33 said:
Former players should be as well. Of course every coach will use openings as leverage but we should laugh at the more ridiculous ones
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Virtually every coach in the country is likely telling their agent to get them mentioned for the USC job. A lot of coaches that aren't even under consideration will likely get themselves a raise if they can get mentioned.

Hell, Mario Cristobal was mentioned early on. He's probably hoping his name resurfaces, so he can get himself a raise from Oregon. It's how the game is played.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Virtually every coach in the country is likely telling their agent to get them mentioned for the USC job. A lot of coaches that aren't even under consideration will likely get themselves a raise if they can get mentioned.

Hell, Mario Cristobal was mentioned early on. He's probably hoping his name resurfaces, so he can get himself a raise from Oregon. It's how the game is played.
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Sure, agents will use it to get their clients a raise, we see that every cycle. But at least names like Franklin or Marion are possible.
 
duckboy33 said:
Ok so taking out the distractions (Tomlin, KK, etc), who are the real options for USC?
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Hard to say because USC has said very little.

Right now, Franklin seems like "the favorite" to get the job. But the agent he just hired is supposedly pretty influential in the SEC, so that likely makes LSU a real threat. Luke Fickell seems like a strong candidate because Bohn is the AD that hired him at Cincy. But while he hasn't said he's not interested, he has said that he's a "Midwest guy".

Kellen Moore (Cowboys OC) and Dan Quinn (Cowboys DC) have been mentioned. As coordinators, they would be more likely to leave than a head coach, but they were just mentioned yesterday by an "unnamed source", so I have no idea how realistic they are. Especially since the Cowboys are in first place. Same with Rams DC Raheem Morris (who was mentioned early on as well). It may be interesting to keep an eye on them. But I wouldn't consider them "serious" yet.

Personally, I want them to go hard after Eric Bieniemy (if he becomes a serious candidate, then you might be able to say I'm excited), but talk about him seems to have quieted.

So right now, the only ones I see as candidates to be taken seriously, it's Franklin and Fickell. Especially Franklin since he's apparently distracted enough the he thinks Penn St. is playing Illinois in the Big House.

Although, I did hear this morning that some within USC have "cooled" on Franklin, but I have no idea why.

This whole thing is fun to watch...I'm just waiting for someone to make the claim that they saw Saban's wife looking at houses in Malibu. That's when we'll know things are getting serious. lol
 
duckboy33 said:
Sure, agents will use it to get their clients a raise, we see that every cycle. But at least names like Franklin or Marion are possible.
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Franklin is gonna get P.A.I.D by someone. You know that agent is going to leverage LSU against USC and both of them against PSU.
 
duckboy33 said:
Quite the opposite, it’s why I laughed at your post about Tomlin originally. Everyone knew it wasn’t serious. I was surprised to see Tomlin mock the rumor publicly but of course that would be his reaction
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Every post you've made says otherwise.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Franklin is gonna get P.A.I.D by someone. You know that agent is going to leverage LSU against USC and both of them against PSU.
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Franklin is gonna have to be offered in the 8-10M range for him to leave Penn State. I don’t know if Penn State would really want to match that but a lot of Penn States top donors like him
 
trojanfan12 said:
Hard to say because USC has said very little.

Right now, Franklin seems like "the favorite" to get the job. But the agent he just hired is supposedly pretty influential in the SEC, so that likely makes LSU a real threat. Luke Fickell seems like a strong candidate because Bohn is the AD that hired him at Cincy. But while he hasn't said he's not interested, he has said that he's a "Midwest guy".

Kellen Moore (Cowboys OC) and Dan Quinn (Cowboys DC) have been mentioned. As coordinators, they would be more likely to leave than a head coach, but they were just mentioned yesterday by an "unnamed source", so I have no idea how realistic they are. Especially since the Cowboys are in first place. Same with Rams DC Raheem Morris (who was mentioned early on as well). It may be interesting to keep an eye on them. But I wouldn't consider them "serious" yet.

Personally, I want them to go hard after Eric Bieniemy (if he becomes a serious candidate, then you might be able to say I'm excited), but talk about him seems to have quieted.

So right now, the only ones I see as candidates to be taken seriously, it's Franklin and Fickell. Especially Franklin since he's apparently distracted enough the he thinks Penn St. is playing Illinois in the Big House.

Although, I did hear this morning that some within USC have "cooled" on Franklin, but I have no idea why.

This whole thing is fun to watch...I'm just waiting for someone to make the claim that they saw Saban's wife looking at houses in Malibu. That's when we'll know things are getting serious. lol
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Active NFL coordinators are tough because most of them aren’t going to quit mid season and with the early signing day, you need to get someone in there by early December
 
duckboy33 said:
😂 no it doesn’t but go on
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Sure they do. You're the only one who's been on here talking about delusional "USC people" are going around drumming up that Tomlin was going to be USC's coach. Literally, the only one. Everyone else saw exactly what it was except you. You're the only one that tried to say it was anything else.

Congrats on becoming OD though.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Sure they do. You're the only one who's been on here talking about delusional "USC people" are going around drumming up that Tomlin was going to be USC's coach. Literally, the only one. Everyone else saw exactly what it was except you. You're the only one that tried to say it was anything else.

Congrats on becoming OD though.
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Lol and you were saying others have reading comprehension issues? I always mocked fans and alums for keeping the rumor out there. I’ve also stated that USC knew that hiring Tomlin was nonsense. That doesn’t suggest I believed SC drew up a contract, it suggests the exact opposite
 
duckboy33 said:
Active NFL coordinators are tough because most of them aren’t going to quit mid season and with the early signing day, you need to get someone in there by early December
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Maybe. It would depend on how recruiting is going, imo. So far, there doesn't seem to be much negative effect on recruiting (probably due to Donte being really good at it).

Also, while it's not ideal, there is always the transfer portal and guys flipping. So, I could see a scenario where USC doesn't get some guys they want because the coach isn't hired yet, but then get some of them back because they like who was hired.

Also, I don't know how the Rams or Cowboys would react, but we've seem coordinators get hired, but stay with their team through the playoffs for the continuity and then moving on once their season is over.

But yeah, the ideal would be that they get their guy prior to the early signing period.
 
duckboy33 said:
Active NFL coordinators are tough because most of them aren’t going to quit mid season and with the early signing day, you need to get someone in there by early December
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Speaking of candidates, it's highly unlikely that he gets the job, even if USC wins out. But if they did win out, I wouldn't hate the idea of giving Donte a 3 or 4 year incentive laden contract. I really like a lot of what he's trying to do. Especially with regard to holding players accountable for their mistakes on the field. Accountability was a glaring issue under Helton.
 
duckboy33 said:
Lol and you were saying others have reading comprehension issues? I always mocked fans and alums for keeping the rumor out there. I’ve also stated that USC knew that hiring Tomlin was nonsense. That doesn’t suggest I believed SC drew up a contract, it suggests the exact opposite
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You thought the "delusional USC people" had him all but hired. The only reason you joked about it was because you're too stupid to understand how things work and thought you read things that you didn't.

The only "USC people" that you've mentioned was me and you were shown to be wrong even on that.

But yeah, keep digging that hole OD.
 
Thiefery said:
Guess you haven't heard.. SC is joining the SEC too 👀
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They just made a good point re: USC's interest in Tomlin on the Dan Patrick show.

A guy like Tomlin would be a dream candidate. Completely buttoned up, great coach, very well respected, runs a clean, tight ship and doesn't allow distractions. Obviously, they aren't getting him, but that's the kind of coach they should be looking for. Which is why his name came up in the first place.
 
trojanfan12 said:
Maybe. It would depend on how recruiting is going, imo. So far, there doesn't seem to be much negative effect on recruiting (probably due to Donte being really good at it).

Also, while it's not ideal, there is always the transfer portal and guys flipping. So, I could see a scenario where USC doesn't get some guys they want because the coach isn't hired yet, but then get some of them back because they like who was hired.

Also, I don't know how the Rams or Cowboys would react, but we've seem coordinators get hired, but stay with their team through the playoffs for the continuity and then moving on once their season is over.

But yeah, the ideal would be that they get their guy prior to the early signing period.
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Umm USC is down to 8 commits and Devin Brown may flip. It's had a pretty negative impact on USC's class.

You're right about the transfer portal but that's definitely less than ideal.
 
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