Coaching Carousel Scorecard This Season

[Wild Turkey]

Is this Dabo to LSU rumor..has any real legs?

Dabo isn't going anywhere. He has won 2 national championships at Clemson, has more than enough money to last him the rest of his life, has a contract that pays him 8.3 million for the next 8 years guaranteed. They will name the field for him.

If he leaves things will never be the same for him at Clemson as there will always be resentment. Dabo is smart enough to go the Bobby Bowden route and stay put retiring as a hero.

The only way to successfully pull this off would be to go to the NFL as that wouldn't hurt feelings as much but a lateral move to LSU would burn bridges.

 

[Wild Turkey]

About as real as @Handicappers legs

Bad analogy as Handi has legs and is deadly with them in the Octagon of Pain.

 

[trojanfan12]

Texas $9.95er prediction;

10/26/21 Predictions

USC: Fickell
LSU: Franklin
Penn State: Matt Campbell
Tech: Kendal Briles
TCU: Jeff Traylor
Miami: Mel Tucker
Cristobal: Stays put
Kiffin: Stays put

Can't really speak to the others, but your USC/LSU predictions seem accurate. Obviously it is all speculation at this point, but I read that Fickell has replaced Franklin as USC's top choice. Apparently the agent that Franklin hired is pretty powerful in the SEC.

So it looks like either Franklin is likely headed to LSU or the agent wants to expand his influence to the PAC-12.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Can't really speak to the others, but your USC/LSU predictions seem accurate. Obviously it is all speculation at this point, but I read that Fickell has replaced Franklin as USC's top choice. Apparently the agent that Franklin hired is pretty powerful in the SEC.

So it looks like either Franklin is likely headed to LSU or the agent wants to expand his influence to the PAC-12.

Zero doubt Sexton wants to expand to the PAC and everywhere else that he can. Dude represents NFL coaches now.

Franklin is a bad fit in Baton Rouge in my opinion and I see Tucker going there, Franklin to USC and Fickle to Penn State. It just makes the most sense.

 

[trojanfan12]

Only chance is when there’s someone who’s a college lifer who jumped into the NFL and isn’t having a ton of success. See Nick Saban.

Urban Meyer and Matt Rhule are the only guys I can think of who fit that description. I know USCs president was reluctant to hire Urban because of his past.

And both of them are only in their first year. Unless they get fired, it's hard to see either of them being available after 1 season since both teams are in a re-build. And yeah, I'd be floored if USC hired Urb. Too much baggage.

 

[duckboy33]

I know I’m in the minority but I think Franklin stays at Penn State. He’s wanted them to upgrade facilities for a while and I think he will leverage this into a raise and program upgrades.

Fickell to USC makes the most sense due to Fickells connection with USCs AD.

LSU? I have less of a feel on that one. I think Aranda would be a good hire but I wonder if they would offer him the job.

 

[duckboy33]

And both of them are only in their first year. Unless they get fired, it's hard to see either of them being available after 1 season since both teams are in a re-build. And yeah, I'd be floored if USC hired Urb. Too much baggage.

Matt Rhule is in his 2nd year but the point is the same. I doubt they would get fired at this point, it would have to be a Nick Saban style change of heart

 

[trojanfan12]

Pete Carroll back to USC?

Not likely...and to be honest, I'm not sure he could repeat his earlier success. He's 70 now (he was 51 when USC first hired him). He still has plenty of energy, but he's become kind of stuck in his ways.

My guess would be that it would be similar to when John Robinson was brought back. He was better than the guy he replaced, so the team improved...but he never got it all the way back to standards.

 

[trojanfan12]

no way he walks away from the NFL who he was trying to get in for the past several years. He's in year 2 of his huge deal. If he ever comes back to CFB it will be another 3 years

I agree that he's unlikely to leave now. But if what @Deep Creek says is accurate, that could change things. He may have a big NFL contract, but it's not like a big school is going to pay him minimum wage. My guess would be that, if he wants to return to college, the biggest issue would be the buyout.

 

[trojanfan12]

It hurts the job search and the perceived desirability of a job if you have people turning down your job, even if it is high end people. See Tennessee, Michigan with Hoke/Rich Rod.

Yeah, it's kind of a delicate balance, imo.

On the one hand...why not ''shoot for the stars'' and make them turn you down?

On the other hand...as you point out...if it happens too much, the narrative changes from ''good for them, they aren't limiting themselves,'' to...''why doesn't anyone want that job?''

Meanwhile, other possible candidates are being hired by other programs.

 

[Handicappers]

 

[7samurai13]

Not likely...and to be honest, I'm not sure he could repeat his earlier success. He's 70 now (he was 51 when USC first hired him). He still has plenty of energy, but he's become kind of stuck in his ways.

My guess would be that it would be similar to when John Robinson was brought back. He was better than the guy he replaced, so the team improved...but he never got it all the way back to standards.

In all honesty, it was a joke about Pete coming back to college. He has been away from the game too long and with all the rules and differences, I don’t think he is going to want any part of that.

 

[trojanfan12]

In all honesty, it was a joke about Pete coming back to college. He has been away from the game too long and with all the rules and differences, I don’t think he is going to want any part of that.

Yeah, but his name comes up all the time. There are a somewhat surprising number of people who think he could just come back and immediately repeat his earlier success.

 

[CorpRebel]

And both of them are only in their first year. Unless they get fired, it's hard to see either of them being available after 1 season since both teams are in a re-build. And yeah, I'd be floored if USC hired Urb. Too much baggage.

Yep! I'd hate that too. IF that somehow unfortunately happened, fortunately the NCAA has lost much of it's bite these days, so might escape some shit ... but NAH!!! I just don't see it worth it in the long run.

 

[wildturkey]

Looks like there's some building smoke about Billy Napier and Va Tech having mutual interest. Several national media types have mentioned Napier and VT as potential fits and Stephen Godfrey went as far to say that if LSU doesn't offer Napier, he expect him to take the VT job

 

[CorpRebel]

Yeah, but his name comes up all the time. There are a somewhat surprising number of people who think he could just come back and immediately repeat his earlier success.

Yep! It ain't gonna happen and I agree with you... second time around rarely works out for the best.

But I still think it would be crazy fun to try Kiffin again, but with an incentive laden contract. Though I doubt he'd even consider that after that tarmac abandonment crap done to him. It definitely would be interesting to see the "what if?".

I know... I'm a rebel myself - but what the heck?

Carry On!!

 

[wildturkey]

Matt Rhule is in his 2nd year but the point is the same. I doubt they would get fired at this point, it would have to be a Nick Saban style change of heart

I don't think it'd be a change of heart for Rhule going back to college if its for Penn St. He's a Penn St alum and there's talk among insiders on PSU boards that Rhule reached out to them that he'd be interested if Franklin bolted. That's apparently the root of the "Rhule might have interest in college jobs" story from earlier in the week. It's not that he'd go to LSU or USC, but he'd be interested in his alma mater if its available

 

[trojanfan12]

Yep! I'd hate that too. IF that somehow unfortunately happened, fortunately the NCAA has lost much of it's bite these days, so might escape some shit ... but NAH!!! I just don't see it worth it in the long run.

To be fair, it's not really about NCAA violations. I may be missing something but, despite the rumors, I don't remember any school he was at, being in NCAA trouble after he left.

It's more his players getting in trouble off the field and embarrassing stuff he does or that his assistants do and he handles it poorly. But either way, I don't think USC wants to be associated with that reputation (now watch them hire him lol).

 

[trojanfan12]

But I still think it would be crazy fun to try Kiffin again, but with an incentive laden contract. Though I doubt he'd even consider that after that tarmac abandonment crap done to him. It definitely would be interesting to see the "what if?".

He is actually the one re-hire that I could see working.

The problem with bringing back Carroll, imo, would be the same problem that emerged when John Robinson came back. He's been out of college football for over a decade. The game has changed. Most of the kids today, don't know a lot about what he did at USC because they weren't born when it started and were still pretty young when it ended.

Outside of the brief time with the Raiders, Kiffin really hasn't left college football, he is part of the change in style that has taken place and all the kids know who he is.

Really, the only concern I would have with him is that I don't think he pays a lot of attention to defense. You don't have to have a great defense to compete for an NC...but you have to have a solid one.

 

[CorpRebel]

To be fair, it's not really about NCAA violations. I may be missing something but, despite the rumors, I don't remember any school he was at, being in NCAA trouble after he left.

It's more his players getting in trouble off the field and embarrassing stuff he does or that his assistants do and he handles it poorly. But either way, I don't think USC wants to be associated with that reputation (now watch them hire him lol).

Oh yeah... I get that. I think it can move from that kind of thing to a NCAA type of issue and I don't want to see USC get into any more issues one way or the other. They had enough recently as it is. It's not worth it.

AND... IMO, I don't think Urbie would have all that much "lasting" success here or anywhere else on the west coast. It's just soooo different out there. And the CFB landscape is changing dramatically and not necessarily for the good.

But we shall see...