TV Series The Wheel of Time

rfjeff9 said:
They explain Nynaeve in the next episode.
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...that she wasn't dead, she's too central a character, can't kill her off at the beginning. I just wondered how they would bring her back. Obviously in the books she went with them from the start. I guess this way she can impress Lan with her tracking ability
 
Watched ep 2 last night with the family, we're all enjoying it so far, although I'm the only one who has read the books. (wife tried to read Eye of the World years ago but never finished)

Overall, I think that despite the differences from the books, the characters are pretty true to the ones Jordan created. Details aren't going to be the same for lots of things because they're not "cinematic," but the total story line is true.

As soon as they got to the Whitecloak encampment, my daughter said, "what, the KLAN?!?"
 
Hu War Yu said:
...that she wasn't dead, she's too central a character, can't kill her off at the beginning. I just wondered how they would bring her back. Obviously in the books she went with them from the start. I guess this way she can impress Lan with her tracking ability
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In the book, she followed after them and tracked them down. It was Thom that left with them.
 
rfjeff9 said:
In the book, she followed after them and tracked them down. It was Thom that left with them.
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Really? Am I that far off? Been a while since I read EOTW...
 
rfjeff9 said:
Yeah but the stuff that happened to her in the show wasn't in the books. She just got mad the children were taken and followednthe group to bring them back.
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Completely forgot that part, my memory ain't as good as it used to be.

Still a little bothered that Thom hasn't shown up yet (in Ep 2), but my theory is that he provided too much levity, and the show runners want it all to be very dark and brooding from the beginning
 
Re: Mattrim Cauthon - Tons of spoilers from the books; don't read this if you don't know the books:

I can't remember the significance of the dagger Mattrim found in Shadar Logoth. I know he eventually finds the Horn of Valere, but I can't remember where he did. I'm trying to figure out if the TV show changed that part of the story by making it a dagger.
 
Sickness said:
Re: Mattrim Cauthon - Tons of spoilers from the books; don't read this if you don't know the books:

I can't remember the significance of the dagger Mattrim found in Shadar Logoth. I know he eventually finds the Horn of Valere, but I can't remember where he did. I'm trying to figure out if the TV show changed that part of the story by making it a dagger.
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I was trying to remember as well...I know that there was some spirit or force in Shadar Logoth that basically tracked Mat down because he took the blade out of the city. It possessed him to some degree, and the Aes Sedai had to do some sort of "exorcism" on him at the White Tower. Details are fuzzy for me...but the dagger is separate from the horn, I recall that much
 
Hu War Yu said:
I was trying to remember as well...I know that there was some spirit or force in Shadar Logoth that basically tracked Mat down because he took the blade out of the city. It possessed him to some degree, and the Aes Sedai had to do some sort of "exorcism" on him at the White Tower. Details are fuzzy for me...but the dagger is separate from the horn, I recall that much
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Thanks.

So far, they did a damn good job with the sets, IMO. I remember watching the movie adaptation of Disney's The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe way back and thinking what a cheap piece of crap it was because the sets sucked so badly. This one is well done.

I'm surprised they got an actress as huge as Rosamund Pike to play in this series. I've met like 2 people in my entire life who read these books; it was never that popular.

I'm sure part of the reason she took it is because Moraine dies (I think) pretty early on in the series, so she's not on the hook for like 10 years of shows if the series takes off.
 
Sickness said:
So far, they did a damn good job with the sets, IMO. I remember watching the movie adaptation of The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe way back and thinking what a cheap piece of crap it was because the sets sucked so badly. This one is well done.
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I read something about this a few weeks ago that described how much effort they put into making the village of the Two Rivers -- and then they set it on fire before they even finished the first episode.

Bezos is spending a LOT of money on this.

Sickness said:
I'm surprised they got an actress as huge as Rosamund Pike to play in this series. I've met like 2 people in my entire life who read these books; it was never that popular.
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I got into them as an adult, after most of them had been published. Had never heard of them before about 10-12 years ago. I was reading one at work one day when a co-worker saw me and said "man, I didn't think I'd ever come across anybody else who read these"
 
Sickness said:
That sucks. I thought Harris did a great job so far.

The dude who plays Rand? Ehhh so far... The dude who plays Lan? Pretty good so so far... The dude who plays Perrin seems pretty convincing.

Pike & Harris did the best acting jobs in the first 3 episodes, IMO. That's a bummer, but at least it's only after 1 season.
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They did an outstanding job with Perrin. He's exactly how I pictured him when I read the books. I wasn't sure about Lan but agree with you that he's doing a great job so far.

Mat (Harris) has come off as the most sympathetic and complex of the young men so far. A lot of that has to do with how they've enlarged the role of his family in the series.
 
Hu War Yu said:
I got into them as an adult, after most of them had been published. Had never heard of them before about 10-12 years ago. I was reading one at work one day when a co-worker saw me and said "man, I didn't think I'd ever come across anybody else who read these"
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The problem is few have the patience for 1,000-page books. I took one on a trip for my track team in high school, and they called me "Bible boy" because one of the books looked as long as the Bible.
 
One thing they're really doing a great job on is the exposition. It's incorporated very well. Like when

When Nynaeve says, "I know the bond between a Warder and an Aes Sedai... bla bla bla.... so prepare yourself because this is gonna hurt." The exposition wasn't just for the sake of exposition; it made sense for what was going on.

With such a long story, it's going to be difficult for them to get enough exposition in smoothly, but they're doing it kind of like the books did: slowly. I like it.

If you're not patient with this story, it can seem boring, dumb and cheesy. And if you don't like the fantasy genre, that's what people will think anyway. But I think people who stick with it will love them.
 
Sickness said:
With such a long story, it's going to be difficult for them to get enough exposition in smoothly, but they're doing it kind of like the books did: slowly. I like it.
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Yeah, loved when Lan talked about Shadar Logoth in Ep 2, and Mat says "that's the most you've said all day"
 
Hu War Yu said:
Yeah, loved when Lan talked about Shadar Logoth in Ep 2, and Mat says "that's the most you've said all day"
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I hope they give some attention on how incredibly superior Lan is to pretty much anyone else in that world at combat (with some eventual competition). In the books, he's pretty much unmatched. So far, he just kind of seems like a body guard in the TV show.

The concept of warders is a really cool one. I like the themes of empathy, loyalty, duty, etc.
 
Upon rereading, it turns out Egwene wasn't blonde; they got her hair color right. I must have confused her in early reading with Illana, who was Lews Therin's wife in the prologue. Now I have to go back an re-imagine like 8 books of Egwene with dark hair. :mad2:

This WoT super-nerd has some good takes on the TV adaptation:

 
Perfect timing. Been working my way through 4k of Game of Thrones re-watch. I have just two episodes to go to finish it and I will need this to jump right into to fill the void.
 
RememberTheKoy said:
Perfect timing. Been working my way through 4k of Game of Thrones re-watch. I have just two episodes to go to finish it and I will need this to jump right into to fill the void.
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I've never seen Game of Thrones, but I doubt The Wheel of Time is much like it. Lord of the Rings is probably a lot closer to what The Wheel of Time is, except WoT is about 10 times more elaborate & detailed. It's like the more adult version of LOTR, and I think it's about 10 times better (although I really liked LOTR).

Also, people probably aren't going to get their schlong fix in WoT.

 
Sickness said:
I've never seen Game of Thrones, but I doubt The Wheel of Time is much like it. Lord of the Rings is probably a lot closer to what The Wheel of Time is, except WoT is about 10 times more elaborate & detailed. It's like the more adult version of LOTR, and I think it's about 10 times better (although I really liked LOTR).

Also, people probably aren't going to get their schlong fix in WoT.

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I love Lord of the Rings too. I have a bit of a loop I do where I will re-watch Game of Thrones. Then a few months later re-watch Braveheart then a few months later re-watch the Lord of the rings trilogy.


I just enjoy well done stuff with that medieval feel to it and in regards to Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings I do appreciate the good fantasy aspects as well.



And you should absolutely watch Game of Thrones. It is disappointing how it was ended and it does go a bit off the rails in the final two seasons when they rush to tie everything up by jamming so much into every episode without proper story development and distances that once took characters entire seasons to cross they were now traveling from scene to scene in the same episode. Still though there were some really great episodes in the final 2 seasons. The first 3 episodes of Season 8 might be the best 3 episode stretch of the series. That 4th episode of the final season is so ridiculously bad though it is easily the worst in show history.
 
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