Texas to use non profit charity to pay Offensive Linemen 50k a year

Goldbug said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and make a prediction. The SEC will eventually find itself in the same predicament that the SWC did when the members turned against each other and starting ratting people out for stuff that had always been kept on the down low. When you get millions of dollars sloshing around to buy/keep/sway/entice/recruit players it is inevitable someone is going to F up on occasion. My prediction is someone is going to get the red ass about something and expose another school, or schools, and that's when the SHTF. The school doing the exposing could even be outside the SEC. Just imagine what the people in Washington D.C. will do in the hallowed halls of Congress to investigate this nefarious plot to deceive [FILL IN THE BLANK].
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You know the money they are spending to get rid of/hire new coaches is already sticking in their craw. Their problem is they can't control the source of where it is coming from to do such.
 
Thiefery said:
lol this is really rich coming from a Bama fan that program is known to drop bags to recruits to sign. Can of worms was opened a long time ago. Now that you can do NIL deals that rival or even surpass some McDonalds bags of cash or a fresh new Charger, it's the end?

Please tell me how NIL was supposed to work in your mind?
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Blah blah blah, Bama cheats. This is old and tired, got new material yet?

The purpose of NIL was companies and sponsorship, not charities created so boosters can put money into it and pay players. That was not the purpose. A recent player was signed(TAMU I believe) to a sponsorship deal for Durex Condoms. This was not charity money, nor was it set up as a non profit corporation. The purpose is for actual corporations needing ambassadors of their products for their company to sign a kid to a deal.

If charities can be set up to do this, its nothing more than funneling money to a kind via a charity. If you cant see this, then thats on you.
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
Blah blah blah, Bama cheats. This is old and tired, got new material yet?

The purpose of NIL was companies and sponsorship, not charities created so boosters can put money into it and pay players. That was not the purpose. A recent player was signed(TAMU I believe) to a sponsorship deal for Durex Condoms. This was not charity money, nor was it set up as a non profit corporation. The purpose is for actual corporations needing ambassadors of their products for their company to sign a kid to a deal.

If charities can be set up to do this, its nothing more than funneling money to a kind via a charity. If you cant see this, then thats on you.
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What’s the difference?

Kid gets money from willing contributors either way.
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
Blah blah blah, Bama cheats. This is old and tired, got new material yet?

The purpose of NIL was companies and sponsorship, not charities created so boosters can put money into it and pay players. That was not the purpose. A recent player was signed(TAMU I believe) to a sponsorship deal for Durex Condoms. This was not charity money, nor was it set up as a non profit corporation. The purpose is for actual corporations needing ambassadors of their products for their company to sign a kid to a deal.

If charities can be set up to do this, its nothing more than funneling money to a kind via a charity. If you cant see this, then thats on you.
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You know it's more than one charity and they are too getting money. It's non profit because the guys that are putting the money into this aren't expecting a dime back.. it's going to the players and the actual charities of the players choice.

They are using their name, image, likeness for fundraisers, appearances and even volunteer labor (habitat for humanity).

If you can't see this is legit, I don't know what to tell you.. and don't worry, these same players can still do condom deals or charger dealership deals too.

So cry me a river about how this is the death of CFB and this wasn't intended because you have a separate vision.

hey did you know that Bama gives out money to players to sign? Waddell was a deal btw.. 80k. If you can't see it, then that's on you
 
broncosmitty said:
What’s the difference?

Kid gets money from willing contributors either way.
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Unless the contributors at Durex(or some other named company) are getting big donations from boosters from a specific school to support said kid, it is a huge difference. A charity has the ability to be set up as a non profit, and then have money from boosters placed into it, and sent to kids as payment for whatever small charitable work they do. This is a slippery slope.

To look at this in a different light, the companies currently supporting these kids with sponsorship deals are established companies and looking to boost thier product with sponsoring a big name player. No one is creating a company and product simply to support these kids.
This is about optics and it appears the new way to funnel booster money to a kid is through non profit charities. Thats not a good look honestly.
 
Thiefery said:
LOL,, could happen but the schools will still be happy, they are still making much more than the SWC could dream of
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Thiefery, that cavalier attitude is what's gonna do people in someday. Schools thinking they are bullet proof is what will lead to their inevitable demise. Here's a post I made last Friday. I got a phone call asking me if I'd be willing to pony up money for future "obligations". I asked what "obligations" and was told how OU was going to have to spend a LOT of money to be competitive with what was already SEC-standard spending but the spending in the future was going to skyrocket. Full disclosure: I told my wife about the phone call and she's a stickler for supporting the academic side of OU as much as the athletic side. The woman is merciless about that. When she asked me if I was also prepared to open a vein for the academic side, it gave me pause and I've been thinking about this a lot since then. All this runaway spending really makes me concerned for the future of college football and the universities too. Here's my post from last week.

Finally heard something that is no shit. There is a lot of discussion about OU's willingness to spend the money necessary to bring it up to the level of commitment Oklahoma will need in order to be competitive in the SEC and more than one candidate has raised tough questions. Resources cost money and it's really waking some people up about what success in the SEC is likely going to demand. The head coach's salary isn't the issue; it's more about recruiting budgets, assistant coaching salaries and some damned expensive improvements in facilities, etc. Here is the conundrum: OU hiring anyone who doesn't have the resources to do the job right in the SEC is a recipe for eventual failure. But asking the donors to pony up the money + using a substantial portion of the expected higher revenues from SEC membership to make those resources available is a helluva financial commitment to make. Resources. But apparently it's THE elephant in the room. And if we do spend a God-awful amount of money, how is it spent....how is it raised....and who will be the HC/staff trying to leverage it? OU was pretty comfortable in the Disfuctional XII and this whole move to the SEC is proving to be a lot for OU to bite off.
 
Thiefery said:
You know it's more than one charity and they are too getting money. It's non profit because the guys that are putting the money into this aren't expecting a dime back.. it's going to the players and the actual charities of the players choice.

They are using their name, image, likeness for fundraisers, appearances and even volunteer labor (habitat for humanity).

If you can't see this is legit, I don't know what to tell you.. and don't worry, these same players can still do condom deals or charger dealership deals too.

So cry me a river about how this is the death of CFB and this wasn't intended because you have a separate vision.

hey did you know that Bama gives out money to players to sign? Waddell was a deal btw.. 80k. If you can't see it, then that's on you
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Funny how you make a claim but have no proof to back it up. Lets see that proof on Waddell. Wonder why the NCAA has turned a blind eye on that since its so well known. Actually, its not well known, first I have ever heard of it and I am a Bama booster.
 
BigRedMoe said:
Guess we're gonna find out how much $$$ Runza really has.
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also if you have a passionate base.. you too can do this. If Hoopla was a NU site, they could sponsor a few players to come on here and chat with us for an hour.. While we all kickup $10 or so monthly.
 
Goldbug said:
Thiefery, that cavalier attitude is what's gonna do people in someday. Schools thinking they are bullet proof is what will lead to their inevitable demise. Here's a post I made last Friday. I got a phone call asking me if I'd be willing to pony up money for future "obligations". I asked what "obligations" and was told how OU was going to have to spend a LOT of money to be competitive with what was already SEC-standard spending but the spending in the future was going to skyrocket. Full disclosure: I told my wife about the phone call and she's a stickler for supporting the academic side of OU as much as the athletic side. The woman is merciless about that. When she asked me if I was also prepared to open a vein for the academic side, it gave me pause and I've been thinking about this a lot since then. All this runaway spending really makes me concerned for the future of college football and the universities too. Here's my post from last week.

Finally heard something that is no shit. There is a lot of discussion about OU's willingness to spend the money necessary to bring it up to the level of commitment Oklahoma will need in order to be competitive in the SEC and more than one candidate has raised tough questions. Resources cost money and it's really waking some people up about what success in the SEC is likely going to demand. The head coach's salary isn't the issue; it's more about recruiting budgets, assistant coaching salaries and some damned expensive improvements in facilities, etc. Here is the conundrum: OU hiring anyone who doesn't have the resources to do the job right in the SEC is a recipe for eventual failure. But asking the donors to pony up the money + using a substantial portion of the expected higher revenues from SEC membership to make those resources available is a helluva financial commitment to make. Resources. But apparently it's THE elephant in the room. And if we do spend a God-awful amount of money, how is it spent....how is it raised....and who will be the HC/staff trying to leverage it? OU was pretty comfortable in the Disfuctional XII and this whole move to the SEC is proving to be a lot for OU to bite off.
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Again, this is not on the school.. if your base is as passionate as i know they are, they will do something like this too.
 
Goldbug said:
Thiefery, that cavalier attitude is what's gonna do people in someday. Schools thinking they are bullet proof is what will lead to their inevitable demise. Here's a post I made last Friday. I got a phone call asking me if I'd be willing to pony up money for future "obligations". I asked what "obligations" and was told how OU was going to have to spend a LOT of money to be competitive with what was already SEC-standard spending but the spending in the future was going to skyrocket. Full disclosure: I told my wife about the phone call and she's a stickler for supporting the academic side of OU as much as the athletic side. The woman is merciless about that. When she asked me if I was also prepared to open a vein for the academic side, it gave me pause and I've been thinking about this a lot since then. All this runaway spending really makes me concerned for the future of college football and the universities too. Here's my post from last week.

Finally heard something that is no shit. There is a lot of discussion about OU's willingness to spend the money necessary to bring it up to the level of commitment Oklahoma will need in order to be competitive in the SEC and more than one candidate has raised tough questions. Resources cost money and it's really waking some people up about what success in the SEC is likely going to demand. The head coach's salary isn't the issue; it's more about recruiting budgets, assistant coaching salaries and some damned expensive improvements in facilities, etc. Here is the conundrum: OU hiring anyone who doesn't have the resources to do the job right in the SEC is a recipe for eventual failure. But asking the donors to pony up the money + using a substantial portion of the expected higher revenues from SEC membership to make those resources available is a helluva financial commitment to make. Resources. But apparently it's THE elephant in the room. And if we do spend a God-awful amount of money, how is it spent....how is it raised....and who will be the HC/staff trying to leverage it? OU was pretty comfortable in the Disfuctional XII and this whole move to the SEC is proving to be a lot for OU to bite off.
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When was OU's last major upgrade?

Nebraska just dropped $155 million.
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Nebraska Announces “Go Big” Athletic Facility Project - University of Nebraska

University of Nebraska Chancellor Ronnie Green and Athletic Director Bill Moos announced Friday plans to embark on construction of a new athletic facility housing the Nebraska football program. The 'Go Big' project will provide Nebraska Athletics with a facility that will be the largest of its...
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I remember an OU upgrade back in Stoop's early years.

It was an upgrade to the trophy room at the minimum.
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
This was the slippery slope that has been talked about. College football opened a can of worms and now those supposed amateur players will be paid athletes moving forward. This could be the end of college football as we knew it, or it might end this NIL situation. This is not how this was supposed to work, but a loophole was found apparently.
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College football as we knew is ending with or without NIL, might as well let the kids get paid for their work.
 
TheDayMan said:
College football as we knew is ending with or without NIL, might as well let the kids get paid for their work.
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I was not, and am still not a proponent of paying these kids. To me, the education they receive and the notoriety they get from national television games is enough. They get a high quality education that many people would kill for. I just dont like the idea of paying these kids, but especially not from non profit entities. This seems like a bad idea that can get these schools in trouble eventually.
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
I was not, and am still not a proponent of paying these kids. To me, the education they receive and the notoriety they get from national television games is enough. They get a high quality education that many people would kill for. I just dont like the idea of paying these kids, but especially not from non profit entities. This seems like a bad idea that can get these schools in trouble eventually.
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LOL.. but your cool with coaches making over 10 mil and assistants getting closer to 2 mil a year.. and the kids should be happy with getting a scholarship

Everyone getting paid except the players..
 
Northwestern is 8th on that global net worth list.

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Thiefery said:
also if you have a passionate base.. you too can do this. If Hoopla was a NU site, they could sponsor a few players to come on here and chat with us for an hour.. While we all kickup $10 or so monthly.
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Are you asking me to go into bizzness with you? *spits in hand*
Happy Pop Tv GIF by Schitt's Creek
 
BandwagonBo2 said:
I was not, and am still not a proponent of paying these kids. To me, the education they receive and the notoriety they get from national television games is enough. They get a high quality education that many people would kill for. I just dont like the idea of paying these kids, but especially not from non profit entities. This seems like a bad idea that can get these schools in trouble eventually.
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Clearly. Just be honest about it like that. No point in pretending this is college football’s downfall. The transfer portal is currently doing that all on its own.
 
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