Is your team a has been program or a never was program?

Blackshirts BLVD said:
55-78-2 with a 40% win percentage = "major conference"

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What does record have to do with conference? They didn’t play any G5 equivalent or FCS equivalent teams.
 
Records are out dated. Quit living in the past

Florida gators are undefeated in 2022.
 
Hitman Hart said:
Everyone should hate Bama, so those old timer Tech fans are pretty smart people
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@Wild Turkey knows the story better than I do and I remember a very heated argument between Jakology and 4down20(RIP to both) about it.

But Tech fans are generally smart. I wish their football team was in better shape though. Not good enough to beat UGA, but good enough to mention it on a resume
 
Hitman Hart said:
weird, b/c GT joined the ACC for men's basketball in 1979, but didn't join it for football until 1982.
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Illustrious Potentate said:
They got mad at Bama and left the SEC. They had the one magical season in 1990, but other outside of that year, they haven’t been the same as a program since then. Old timer Tech fans still hate Bama more than they hate UGA
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GT left the SEC because they thought they would fair better in football and have a better shot at national championships being independent like ND and playing a national schedule. They also thought by playing outside the Southeast they would get exposure for the school in more places and help them in recruiting top students. So they went independent in football and put their other sports in the ACC. They eventually realized they were delusional and joined the ACC in football also.

The Alabama and GT issue is the following: THE GAME was remembered as the starting point of hatred between Alabama and Georgia Tech because of a serious injury followed by an irresponsible action. It was an incident that displayed dirty football by Darwin Holt, a senior linebacker from Alabama. Georgia Tech player Chick Graning was running down field without any opposition, he assumed the play was over and left his guard down. Then Alabama player, Darwin Holt, jumped at Graning, and punched him in the face with his forearm. Holt struck Chick in the face with his left elbow. According to 'Engineering The New South', the full diagnosis, as indicated by the Tech team physician, was: “fracture of facial bones, five missing upper teeth and remaining front teeth broken, fracture of nasal bone, fracture of right maxillary sinus and sinus filled with blood, fracture of bone beneath right eye, cerebral concussion, possible fracture of base of skull.” [2]. The local newspaper and the articles from later in the year published many articles about the dirty football sport in general, especially about the game between Alabama and Georgia Tech. Due to this incident Chick was not able to finish the season for the Yellow Jackets. The Atlanta Constitution ran photos of the "brutalized young Graning lying in his hospital bed with his face smothered in bandages, and the papers called for Holt to be suspended for what was, to them, an obviously late and dirty hit" [3]. There was another reason why this game was very famous around the world. It was Coach Bryant. Despite the violation of sportsmanship, clearly recorded on film and in people's memories, Coach Bryant refused to announce a public apology and did not remove Holt from the team. In January 1962, Coach Dodd described Bryant’s behavior as the "expiration of the contract in 1964". The contract was originally between Georgia Tech and Alabama and agreed on appropriate and clean football games. Furthermore, Dodd's announcement showed that the contract was not important to him anymore because of Coach Bryant's reaction. Subsequently, in that time, "Bryant [had] already earned a reputation as an outlaw school that not only played dirty, but also received in their reputation as a dirty football team" [4]. The Graning incident served to confirm what other people already believed about Coach Bryant's reputation, and that hurt him externally. In fact, even local newspapers in Alabama criticized Bryant's actions. Georgia Tech also announced that Tech would no longer play Alabama, even though years later Tech decided to play against Alabama shortly before Bryant’s death, at that point memories of the incident had subsided.

I went to school with Darwin Holt's daughter Tate and he never really lived this down. He claimed it wasn't a cheap shot and he didn't know the play was over and I think we can all see how that could happen. The problem is the brutality of it as such and the hatred between the programs so great it never really left the memory of fans for years. My suspicion is that Bear and Dodd hated each other so much they both decided to die on their respective hill and let this thing get out of control from a PR standpoint. Sad thing is that Darwin Holt had some professional repercussions from this and for years there were whispers behind his back and I felt bad for him. He was a victim of cancel culture before that was a thing.
 
Wild Turkey said:
GT left the SEC because they thought they would fair better in football and have a better shot at national championships being independent like ND and playing a national schedule. They also thought by playing outside the Southeast they would get exposure for the school in more places and help them in recruiting top students. So they went independent in football and put their other sports in the ACC. They eventually realized they were delusional and joined the ACC in football also.

The Alabama and GT issue is the following: THE GAME was remembered as the starting point of hatred between Alabama and Georgia Tech because of a serious injury followed by an irresponsible action. It was an incident that displayed dirty football by Darwin Holt, a senior linebacker from Alabama. Georgia Tech player Chick Graning was running down field without any opposition, he assumed the play was over and left his guard down. Then Alabama player, Darwin Holt, jumped at Graning, and punched him in the face with his forearm. Holt struck Chick in the face with his left elbow. According to 'Engineering The New South', the full diagnosis, as indicated by the Tech team physician, was: “fracture of facial bones, five missing upper teeth and remaining front teeth broken, fracture of nasal bone, fracture of right maxillary sinus and sinus filled with blood, fracture of bone beneath right eye, cerebral concussion, possible fracture of base of skull.” [2]. The local newspaper and the articles from later in the year published many articles about the dirty football sport in general, especially about the game between Alabama and Georgia Tech. Due to this incident Chick was not able to finish the season for the Yellow Jackets. The Atlanta Constitution ran photos of the "brutalized young Graning lying in his hospital bed with his face smothered in bandages, and the papers called for Holt to be suspended for what was, to them, an obviously late and dirty hit" [3]. There was another reason why this game was very famous around the world. It was Coach Bryant. Despite the violation of sportsmanship, clearly recorded on film and in people's memories, Coach Bryant refused to announce a public apology and did not remove Holt from the team. In January 1962, Coach Dodd described Bryant’s behavior as the "expiration of the contract in 1964". The contract was originally between Georgia Tech and Alabama and agreed on appropriate and clean football games. Furthermore, Dodd's announcement showed that the contract was not important to him anymore because of Coach Bryant's reaction. Subsequently, in that time, "Bryant [had] already earned a reputation as an outlaw school that not only played dirty, but also received in their reputation as a dirty football team" [4]. The Graning incident served to confirm what other people already believed about Coach Bryant's reputation, and that hurt him externally. In fact, even local newspapers in Alabama criticized Bryant's actions. Georgia Tech also announced that Tech would no longer play Alabama, even though years later Tech decided to play against Alabama shortly before Bryant’s death, at that point memories of the incident had subsided.

I went to school with Darwin Holt's daughter Tate and he never really lived this down. He claimed it wasn't a cheap shot and he didn't know the play was over and I think we can all see how that could happen. The problem is the brutality of it as such and the hatred between the programs so great it never really left the memory of fans for years. My suspicion is that Bear and Dodd hated each other so much they both decided to die on their respective hill and let this thing get out of control from a PR standpoint. Sad thing is that Darwin Holt had some professional repercussions from this and for years there were whispers behind his back and I felt bad for him. He was a victim of cancel culture before that was a thing.
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they didn't join the ACC for any sports until the late 70s, though. They left the SEC in the mid 60s.
 
Hitman Hart said:
they didn't join the ACC for any sports until the late 70s, though. They left the SEC in the mid 60s.
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I’m just telling you why they left the SEC. It was football related decision and a desire to market GT to other parts of the country.
 
Wild Turkey said:
I’m just telling you why they left the SEC. It was football related decision and a desire to market GT to other parts of the country.
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Also, Bobby Dodd kinda laid down an ultimatum on the old 140 rule where teams would over sign their scholarship limit, and they didn’t change the rule and they were out the door immediately
 
NewPhoneWhoDis said:
fuck disney -- them bitches just fleeced me for about $6k in the last week
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did you atleast enjoy the overpriced drinks being served at the swimming pool? I did
 
Thiefery said:
did you atleast enjoy the overpriced drinks being served at the swimming pool? I did
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i have an 8 year old -- the overpriced drinks i had were $6 diet cokes and $8 mickey pretzels
 
steelerssb said:
God damnit I hated his last few games at LSU when him going to Cincy was inevitable. Like "welp, might as well keep rooting for him now while I can before I root against him for the next 15 years."
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He’s special for sure. I was wrong about him.
 
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