2023 Hall of Fame Voting

They take all of the shit but most of the Hall's worst selections were admitted through avenues other than the writers' ballot.
Most are arguing against them not because of who they have let in, but because who they are keeping out.
 
it's going to be so annoying if we get a shutout. BBWAA writers past 60 should be euthanised
 
David Ortiz was first ballot and he tested positive lololol

it really is about how much the mouth breathing baseball writers like you at this point
He juiced and only played half of the game, but he’s likable and looks like Florida from Good Times, so he’s in.
 
He juiced and only played half of the game, but he’s likable and looks like Florida from Good Times, so he’s in.

helps that he also looks like Shrek
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he voted for Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield and Vizquel last year and now he's worried about ethics? it's also weird he voted for Sheff, but not A-Rod.
Did Sheff fail PED tests?

ARod got 3 strikes.

Apples and oranges.
 
thought he did, my bad. I'd still vote for either.
Sheff was mentioned in the Mitchell Report. So he belongs in the convo with Bonds, Clemens and Ortiz.

ARod failed tests multiple times (I think 3x?), so that puts him in a class all his own. If you are pro-ARod, than I suspect you are pro-Rose as well. They are very comparable.
 
Rolen was not a better player than andruw Jones
Couldn't even get a spot on the Phillies wall of fame, guess I know which one is a more prestigious honor now.
 
Couldn't even get a spot on the Phillies wall of fame, guess I know which one is a more prestigious honor now.
I was pretty young when it went down, but I seem to remember Rolen getting booed in Philly after he went to the Cardinals
 
If Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are not in, there should not be a Hall of Fame.

while I wouldn't place any of these players above Clemens/Bonds (and I fully support them), HOF worthy players shouldn't have that held against them just because the BBWAA is full of holier than thou douchebags.
 
Rolen had a career 70.1 WAR. 10th best 3B ever.

Jones had a career 62.7 WAR. 14th best CF ever.
Jones is one of the greatest defensive CF the game ever saw. He had a shorter career due to his style of play. Rolen was a fat bum on the corner.

WAR is a great stat at times, but doesn't tell near the whole story. Only a homer could argue Rolen over Jones.

Also 14th best in CF (a premium position) is more valuable than 10th best at 3rd.
 
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