2023 season thread

Dude made that look easy.
 
ahh shit overtime
 
Elliott, Busch, Logano and Almirola all had trouble in the first half of the race and all seem to be headed for top 10s.
 
well apparently Bubba just lost his mind.
 
Bubba L
 
Haley and Elliott both need wins to make the Mickey Mouse shit show that only morons recognize. They have to be aggressive here, this might be their only shot
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
Haley and Elliott both need wins to make the Mickey Mouse shit show that only morons recognize. They have to be aggressive here, this might be their only shot
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was just gonna say wee are about to find out what type of driver Haley is in a minute.
 
Schmoopy1000 said:
was just gonna say wee are about to find out what type of driver Haley is in a minute.
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He’s right reared Riley Herbst on a straight at Pocono in the Busch Series.

SVG has much better tires, so if he gets a good start, he’ll be too far ahead unless it’s a ridiculous dive bomb that takes both out
 
What is overtime in racing and does it happen when laps are completed under yellow? I really don't follow racing, so excuse my dumb question
 
dont know who this guy is. but I am rooting for him!
 
A wild weekend for Justin Marks, completed only 3 laps yesterday and wins today.
 
psaboy said:
What is overtime in racing and does it happen when laps are completed under yellow? I really don't follow racing, so excuse my dumb question
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so Nascar doesnt want a race to end under yellow.
So if a yellow comes out before the white flag. They will extend the amount of laps need to finish the race under green. So even though they go past in this case the 75 laps because of the yellow they will restart with 2 laps to go. If a yellow comes out again before the white flag they will go into overtime again. As many timers as they need. Now if they take the white flag (final lap) then the next flag ends the race (Checkers or yellow)
 
Honestly, it was a better race than I was expecting, but I still hope they never do this again.

Give Dover its second race back
 
Schmoopy1000 said:
so Nascar doesnt want a race to end under yellow.
So if a yellow comes out before the white flag. They will extend the amount of laps need to finish the race under green. So even though they go past in this case the 75 laps because of the yellow they will restart with 2 laps to go. If a yellow comes out again before the white flag they will go into overtime again. As many timers as they need. Now if they take the white flag (final lap) then the next flag ends the race (Checkers or yellow)
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Thanks, Wish Indy car did that, hate seeing races end on yellow
 
I didn't watch much (bits and pieces and then the final 15ish laps), but from what I saw, NASCAR should be very happy. They can't control the weather but from everything else, they pulled that off pretty well. The track was set up nicely. It had plenty of room and was racey enough (also not their fault some of the series regs, including some prominent names, couldn't drive it worth a shit) to make it competitive. The background images looked great, which is also important for TV and marketing (also shout out to NBC for their camera work and decision to call the race like its a radio broadcast). And they couldn't have drawn up a better winner. To get a new team (Trackhouse project car) with a skilled driver from another series to win in his first race is a slam dunk for them. They get the story of his win and it draws in more interest from other people, sponsors, corps from outside of NASCAR to maybe give them a look.

I said earlier they probably should have gone with a place that had already done a street race before, but it turns out it didn't matter. They nailed this. It's well worth doing again
 
wildturkey said:
I didn't watch much (bits and pieces and then the final 15ish laps), but from what I saw, NASCAR should be very happy. They can't control the weather but from everything else, they pulled that off pretty well. The track was set up nicely. It had plenty of room and was racey enough (also not their fault some of the series regs, including some prominent names, couldn't drive it worth a shit) to make it competitive. The background images looked great, which is also important for TV and marketing (also shout out to NBC for their camera work and decision to call the race like its a radio broadcast). And they couldn't have drawn up a better winner. To get a new team (Trackhouse project car) with a skilled driver from another series to win in his first race is a slam dunk for them. They get the story of his win and it draws in more interest from other people, sponsors, corps from outside of NASCAR to maybe give them a look.

I said earlier they probably should have gone with a place that had already done a street race before, but it turns out it didn't matter. They nailed this. It's well worth doing again
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I think a guy winning in his first ever start is a bad look for NASCAR. I’m happy it happened, but there’s gonna be a lot of shit talking from F1 snobs about that even if Jenson Button JJ Yeleyed himself in the race.

Wasn’t a bad race, but that never needs to happen again. There’s talk of Bristol only having one race even with the no dirt, Dover is down to one, New Hampshire is down to one, North Wilkesboro doesn’t have a points race, and they’re trying to bring back the Nashville Fairgrounds and Rockingham. Too many established good tracks for gimmicks.

I don’t like it when F1 and Indy does street courses and their cars are meant for those kinds of tracks. NASCAR has no business doing them.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I think a guy winning in his first ever start is a bad look for NASCAR. I’m happy it happened, but there’s gonna be a lot of shit talking from F1 snobs about that even if Jenson Button JJ Yeleyed himself in the race.

Wasn’t a bad race, but that never needs to happen again. There’s talk of Bristol only having one race even with the no dirt, Dover is down to one, New Hampshire is down to one, North Wilkesboro doesn’t have a points race, and they’re trying to bring back the Nashville Fairgrounds and Rockingham. Too many established good tracks for gimmicks.

I don’t like it when F1 and Indy does street courses and their cars are meant for those kinds of tracks. NASCAR has no business doing them.
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Street courses are big for corporate and TV dollars. They look fantastic if pulled off correctly and showing potential investors and partners those events is what drives that cash, which is the most important thing. Even if older fans or fans of the old style like Rockingham or Dover, where the money is, no one gives 2 shits about it. You can still have them mixed in, but the survival of the sport is actually with pulling off more unique spectacle events because that's where the money is. NASCAR cannot survive running a ton of 1.5 mile tracks, like 3 short tracks, and oversaturating a specific market by running at multiple tracks all in the same general area (like how there's a bunch of tracks all within a few hrs of each other in VA/NC). They need events like this, the Coliseum race, trying COTA instead of the 1.5 track, etc all mixed in. Even if means other tracks get cut to one date, its what they're gonna have to do because its necessary for the long term health of the sport. It's not like they did in the early to mid 00s where they cut a bunch of duplicate dates and replaced them all with cookie cutter tracks. They're doing it a smarter way this time around by looking at variety (road courses, street courses, shorter tracks, etc)
 
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