2024 Season Thread

But last night tells me that Kyle Busch isn’t what he used to be. Dillon had the race won on speed before Spinhouse happened. Ran down Hamlin, passed him and gapped him. Mean while at one of Kyle’s best tracks, he runs in the mid teens pretty well the whole race
 
Honestly with how terrible RCR’s short track program has been the last few years and Dillon having a terrible year, this might be the biggest upset on a non superspeedway oval with no fuel mileage or rain I can remember
On second thought, that’s probably Regan Smith at the 2011 Southern 500. Used tire strategy, so doesn’t fall into the gas mileage category like Menard at the Brickyard
 
And also, Dillon nearly failed the first rule of auto racing. Learn to wreck someone without wrecking yourself. You execute a proper spin and win on the 22, the 11 isn’t even a factor
 
And back to the hiding behind a baby deal. I doubt Logano cared too much. I mean, he tried to run down Dillon’s wife and child on pit road, and is probably gonna have the biggest penalty of anyone involved
 
Hiding behind babies? There was a zero percent chance he was gonna get attacked during the victory speech whether he was holding a baby or not, especially since NASCAR decided they’re gonna start fining drivers for fighting for some reason

Logano has done the same thing and hid behind his pit crew

Hamlin pretty well wrecked himself, he was coming up the track, and wasn’t mad enough to fight anyways, even said he was living in a glass house.

Logano needs to think about the moves he’s pulled in his career and cool his tits. Remember when he straight up dumped Kyle Busch, and then his voice got all high pitched and he hid behind his crew when Busch wanted to fight?
I don't see Hamlin coming back up the track. Even looking at DIllons dash cam you can see him veer down the track and into Hamlin. Hamlin was pissed, but he's smart enough not to fire off and make it obvious when he dumps Dillon in an upcoming race.
 
But last night tells me that Kyle Busch isn’t what he used to be. Dillon had the race won on speed before Spinhouse happened. Ran down Hamlin, passed him and gapped him. Mean while at one of Kyle’s best tracks, he runs in the mid teens pretty well the whole race
His pit screwed him over, also.
 
Doesn’t change the fact, he is still a low class chicken shit.
He’s got payback coming, but he ran down and passed Logano and Hamlin under green and gapped them. He had the race won with a lap and a half to go before Stenhouse pulled his usual stuff. To say he can’t win without wrecked someone is a dishonest take

And like I said, Logano and Hamlin have pulled the same shit numerous times, so I don’t feel bad for em, just like I won’t feel bad for Dillon when he gets paid back(probably gonna have to be Hamlin, Logano is probably getting put on probation after his attempted murder on pit road of a woman and a child)
 
I don't see Hamlin coming back up the track. Even looking at DIllons dash cam you can see him veer down the track and into Hamlin. Hamlin was pissed, but he's smart enough not to fire off and make it obvious when he dumps Dillon in an upcoming race.
I haven’t watched many replays, but live, it looked like Hamlin was coming up as Dillon was going down. It was most likely intentional, but Dillon does have the plausible deniability of cutting left to avoid the spinning Logano as well.

Dillon most certainly has payback coming, but with the system in place, having an easy win put in jeopardy because of two cars multiple laps down not even fighting for position with a lap and a half to go right in front of the leader, I don’t fault him for what he did, especially given the not so clean histories of the other two involved. Had he been running third before the caution and wiped out two clean drivers like say Buescher and Stenhouse, I’d have more of an issue, but the best car of the race won at the end of the day and the two victims have long histories of pulling similar stuff
 
His pit screwed him over, also.
He was running mid teens when that happened. Put strategy also got him back to where he was running and he managed to recover to 12ty after all the late race drama
 
Even though is was a wreck, that whole GWC felt manufactured too. No wrecks or debris cautions the whole night, then with a lap and a half to go, two of the most mocked drivers in the field, multiple laps down, not even racing for position get into each other and wreck right in front of the leader. It’s like that Martinsville race where Reutimann didn’t go down pit road and stopped on the front stretch to set up that Bowyer-Gordon feud
 
I haven’t watched many replays, but live, it looked like Hamlin was coming up as Dillon was going down. It was most likely intentional, but Dillon does have the plausible deniability of cutting left to avoid the spinning Logano as well.

Dillon most certainly has payback coming, but with the system in place, having an easy win put in jeopardy because of two cars multiple laps down not even fighting for position with a lap and a half to go right in front of the leader, I don’t fault him for what he did, especially given the not so clean histories of the other two involved. Had he been running third before the caution and wiped out two clean drivers like say Buescher and Stenhouse, I’d have more of an issue, but the best car of the race won at the end of the day and the two victims have long histories of pulling similar stuff
If I'm DIllon I 100% do the same thing. Faster car and pretty high shot of winning if you can get Logano out of the way. Very very good chance that when he gets paid back he isn't sitting in 1st or 2nd on the final stretch. He will be in the first stage of a race and probably not really contending.

You take that win and the playoff spot that comes with it 100% of the time and deal with consequences later.
 
Even though is was a wreck, that whole GWC felt manufactured too. No wrecks or debris cautions the whole night, then with a lap and a half to go, two of the most mocked drivers in the field, multiple laps down, not even racing for position get into each other and wreck right in front of the leader. It’s like that Martinsville race where Reutimann didn’t go down pit road and stopped on the front stretch to set up that Bowyer-Gordon feud
And I didn't watch the all star race, so whats the deal with the special softer tires? Feels like NASCAR trying to take a page out of the F1 book with their DRS.

What would be wrong with just making both sets of tires available to teams whenever they want? Everyone still gets the same number of tire sets but how many of each hardness doesn't matter. Since you get much fewer laps with the red tire, if some teams wants to run them more and then risk running out of tires or having a blowout, then let them. I much prefer the other racing circuits that reward teams willing to take risks, unlike NASCAR that tries their best to make all of the cars exactly the same so it comes down to just the driver and luck.
 
If I'm DIllon I 100% do the same thing. Faster car and pretty high shot of winning if you can get Logano out of the way. Very very good chance that when he gets paid back he isn't sitting in 1st or 2nd on the final stretch. He will be in the first stage of a race and probably not really contending.

You take that win and the playoff spot that comes with it 100% of the time and deal with consequences later.
I think Dillon isn’t delusional either. He’s said stuff that leads you to believe he’s self aware of his position in the sport and his chances to win don’t come often. I don’t blame him for doing what it took to win a race where he had to field covered before a caution that would have ended the race when I was a kid happened

And the system is stupid, but it is the system, and that win locks his team into the playoffs and guarantees a no worse than 16th place position in the final official standings and that comes with a significant pay bump from the 30 something position he likely finishes without that win
 
And I didn't watch the all star race, so whats the deal with the special softer tires? Feels like NASCAR trying to take a page out of the F1 book with their DRS.

What would be wrong with just making both sets of tires available to teams whenever they want? Everyone still gets the same number of tire sets but how many of each hardness doesn't matter. Since you get much fewer laps with the red tire, if some teams wants to run them more and then risk running out of tires or having a blowout, then let them. I much prefer the other racing circuits that reward teams willing to take risks, unlike NASCAR that tries their best to make all of the cars exactly the same so it comes down to just the driver and luck.
Richmond’s only saving grace the last few years is that tired do matter a lot, and the tire wear results in a bunch of mixed strategies. I don’t see how the softer compound really changed all that. Pretty sure Blaney and Suarez were the only lead lap cars without any soft tires left for the last pit stop
 
Richmond’s only saving grace the last few years is that tired do matter a lot, and the tire wear results in a bunch of mixed strategies. I don’t see how the softer compound really changed all that. Pretty sure Blaney and Suarez were the only lead lap cars without any soft tires left for the last pit stop
I was watching most of this race with nothing else on, and Suarez got a huge advantage using his red tires early. Didn't end up helping in the end once everyone else used their first set but he was driving around people with that first red like everyone else was on skates.
 
I was watching most of this race with nothing else on, and Suarez got a huge advantage using his red tires early. Didn't end up helping in the end once everyone else used their first set but he was driving around people with that first red like everyone else was on skates.
Suarez was the first to use them and would have been the last to use them had the GWC not happened. He was on pace to run Dillon down from 15 seconds back before the tires evened out and would have likely had a top 5 anyways

I wasn’t a fan.
 
But now that I think about it more(it’s been a slow day, I haven’t had too much to think about), I’m not so sure Hamlin or Logano get a chance for payback on Dillon.

Unless this wasn’t a fluke and RCR somehow found some speed, the only tracks that I can see Dillon even racing near Hamlin or Logano would be the plate tracks, and I doubt they’d intentionally take out half the field for revenge when they have a real shot at a Mickey Mouse title to focus on. I mean, Logano is probably gonna wreck half the field at Daytona and Talladega anyways, and odds are Dillon gets caught in at least one of em, but he’s not gonna flat out dump Dillon at a plate track
 
Dillon gets to keep the win, but it doesn't count towards the playoffs.
Penalized 25 points.
Dillon's spotter suspended 3 races.

Logano fined $50k for his actions on pit road.
 
Dillon keeps the win, but it doesn’t qualify him for a shot at a Mickey Mouse title.

Probably a big deal for his team, but as far as I’m concerned all that was was a win to make a terrible season a little better. Kinda like Rudd’s Martinsville win in 98
 
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