27 years ago Kurt Cobain shot himself

"discreditably?"


Never did care for his music
 
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meh...
 
Cobain was just one of those many people (rather common in artists) who was simply too mentally & emotionally unstable to live a long & healthy life. Also rather common among that demographic is that they were not exactly model citizens and do not deserve to have the general population idolize them as they do.

Interesting that @ojb81 posted a gif of Eminem, because I directly relate Cobain to Marshall Mathers in that... had Cobain lived a full career he would've turned out exactly like Marshall Mathers did... ...eventually becoming an empty discarded parody of himself.
 
The “meh, sooo overrated” comments have ironically become the douchey typical response, since they started as a response to douchey Nirvana love.

There’s nothing overrated about them if you get past Nevermind, which no one with their edgy overrated comments has.
 
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RP-29 said:
Cobain was just one of those many people (rather common in artists) who was simply too mentally & emotionally unstable to live a long & healthy life. Also rather common among that demographic is that they were not exactly model citizens and do not deserve to have the general population idolize them as they do.

Interesting that @ojb81 posted a gif of Eminem, because I directly relate Cobain to Marshall Mathers in that... had Cobain lived a full career he would've turned out exactly like Marshall Mathers did... ...eventually becoming an empty discarded parody of himself.
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Maybe. I think Nirvana would have released one more album (or not), broke up, and he would have stayed pretty under the radar (whether he got clean or not).
 
Never really got into him or Nirvana in general, never been big into grunge, but Alice In Chains is by far my favorite band from the grunge scene.

Don’t have anything against Nirvana, just never really moved the needle much for me
 
TheDayMan said:
The “meh, sooo overrated” comments have ironically become the douchey typical response, since they started as a response to douchey Nirvana love.

There’s nothing overrated about them if you get past Nevermind, which no one with their edgy overrated comments has.
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I think Foo Fighters are overrated as well, for the same reason. Dave Grohl seems like he' d be fun to hang out with, but doesn't mean their music does nothing for me. Foo Fighter formula = lets sing nice and mellow and gentle and THEN SCREAM AND RAGE AND FIRE UP STUPID HORMONAL BOYS and then back down to be nice and melodic and THEN SCREAM SOME MORE BECAUSE SCREAMING IS COOL.
 
fordman84 said:
I think Foo Fighters are overrated as well, for the same reason. Dave Grohl seems like he' d be fun to hang out with, but doesn't mean their music does nothing for me. Foo Fighter formula = lets sing nice and mellow and gentle and THEN SCREAM AND RAGE AND FIRE UP STUPID HORMONAL BOYS and then back down to be nice and melodic and THEN SCREAM SOME MORE BECAUSE SCREAMING IS COOL.
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I at least understand Nirvana’s appeal, but I’ll never understand the Foo Fighters popularity
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
I at least understand Nirvana’s appeal, but I’ll never understand the Foo Fighters popularity
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Nirvana did do some cool chord work that I hadn't heard before, but I am only a mainstream music guy. It was new and cool, but most of it wasn't earth shattering for me. I'd listen to some of it on the radio and then change the channel when it got too mumble-mouthed.
 
fordman84 said:
Nirvana did do some cool chord work that I hadn't heard before, but I am only a mainstream music guy. It was new and cool, but most of it wasn't earth shattering for me. I'd listen to some of it on the radio and then change the channel when it got too mumble-mouthed.
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You being from Texas with all the great underground music that has come out of there since the 60’s it breaks my heart to see you say you only like mainstream. Townes Van Zandt and Robert Earl Keen are Gods
 
fordman84 said:
I think Foo Fighters are overrated as well, for the same reason. Dave Grohl seems like he' d be fun to hang out with, but doesn't mean their music does nothing for me. Foo Fighter formula = lets sing nice and mellow and gentle and THEN SCREAM AND RAGE AND FIRE UP STUPID HORMONAL BOYS and then back down to be nice and melodic and THEN SCREAM SOME MORE BECAUSE SCREAMING IS COOL.
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I’ve tried so hard to like the Foo Fighters, just because Grohl seems like such a genuinely cool person, and I can’t.

I guess I’m just wondering what the difference between doesn’t do it for you and overrated is. Nirvana wasn’t really meant for mass public consumption in general. But they had one overproduced album with a couple catchy songs that one intern at MTV convinced her boss to put in rotation and they exploded. They (that album, specifically) ended up being a good entry to alternative rock for people who weren’t into it before.

I’m glad it happened that way, because it got music I really like into the mainstream and even got it its own cultural movement. Was Nirvana overrated? I don’t think so, I don’t even really know what that means, but they weren’t ever gonna be for everyone anyway.
 
Illustrious Potentate said:
You being from Texas with all the great underground music that has come out of there since the 60’s it breaks my heart to see you say you only like mainstream. Townes Van Zandt and Robert Earl Keen are Gods
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I'm familiar with both and quite a bit more. But I'm not going out to Ricks in Denton anymore to see em, though not actually sure if Ricks ever rebuilt after the last fire.
 
TheDayMan said:
The “meh, sooo overrated” comments have ironically become the douchey typical response, since they started as a response to douchey Nirvana love.

There’s nothing overrated about them if you get past Nevermind, which no one with their edgy overrated comments has.
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I think the issue is the godlike pedestal Nirvana gets put on. Yes they were good (and I have all of their albums), but they weren't the best band from that era. It was only after his death that the Myth of Cobain really started. IMO, had he not died, they wouldn't be remembered the same way.
 
Courtney Love's story is waaaay more interesting than Kurt's.

Kurt was basically a groupie, that was set up with the other band members, ostensibly so he would go away. Prolly ended up a CIA tool to sell heroin. :biggrin:
 
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