ACC Looks To Be Going To The Pod System In 2023

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ACC On Track To End Football Divisions, Establish New Scheduling Format

It has become apparent over the years that the ACC would benefit from moving away from the divisional format schedule. Now, the idea of abolishing the It's Time For The ACC To Move Out Of The Division Format And Present Better Matchups For All Involved.
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I suspect the SEC will do the same.

The most likely scenario that could play out is that each of the fourteen conference teams would be assigned three annual opponents, then rotate with the remaining ten teams every other season. This would give teams the ability to play each other at least once every two years.
 
It's just the smart thing to do.. People want to see more matchups and for them to happen more frequently. Still boggles the mind how aggy and UGA have just played once in conference play all these years.
 
Thiefery said:
It's just the smart thing to do.. People want to see more matchups and for them to happen more frequently. Still boggles the mind how aggy and UGA have just played once in conference play all these years.
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It helps with the unbalanced division issue as well. You are still going to have teams that easier schedules but if you do your job forming the pods correctly there should be more parity with schedules.

It just makes sense.
 
How is that going to work with Notre Dame?


Hopefully the B1G follows suit.

Given the nature of B1G having a ton of trophy games, I felt I kept the important ones. I did have to adjust Nebraskas to better accommodate some time-tested trophies. This is what I came up with...

Illinois - Ohio St, Purdue, Northwestern
Indiana - MSU, Purdue, Maryland
Iowa - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Maryland - Rutgers, Penn St, Indiana
Michigan - MSU, Ohio St, Minnesota
MSU - Indiana, Michigan, Penn St
Minnesota - Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan
Nebraska - Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern
Northwestern - Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers
Ohio St - Illinois, Michigan, Purdue
Penn St - MSU, Maryland, Rutgers
Purdue - Illinois, Indiana, Ohio St
Rutgers - Maryland, Northwestern, Penn St
Wisconsin - Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
How is that going to work with Notre Dame?


Hopefully the B1G follows suit.

Given the nature of B1G having a ton of trophy games, I felt I kept the important ones. I did have to adjust Nebraskas to better accommodate some time-tested trophies. This is what I came up with...

Illinois - Ohio St, Purdue, Northwestern
Indiana - MSU, Purdue, Maryland
Iowa - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Maryland - Rutgers, Penn St, Indiana
Michigan - MSU, Ohio St, Minnesota
MSU - Indiana, Michigan, Penn St
Minnesota - Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan
Nebraska - Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern
Northwestern - Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers
Ohio St - Illinois, Michigan, Purdue
Penn St - MSU, Maryland, Rutgers
Purdue - Illinois, Indiana, Ohio St
Rutgers - Maryland, Northwestern, Penn St
Wisconsin - Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska
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It won't. The ACC bent over backwards to be affiliated with ND in any capacity. This won't change anything.
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
How is that going to work with Notre Dame?


Hopefully the B1G follows suit.

Given the nature of B1G having a ton of trophy games, I felt I kept the important ones. I did have to adjust Nebraskas to better accommodate some time-tested trophies. This is what I came up with...

Illinois - Ohio St, Purdue, Northwestern
Indiana - MSU, Purdue, Maryland
Iowa - Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Maryland - Rutgers, Penn St, Indiana
Michigan - MSU, Ohio St, Minnesota
MSU - Indiana, Michigan, Penn St
Minnesota - Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan
Nebraska - Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern
Northwestern - Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers
Ohio St - Illinois, Michigan, Purdue
Penn St - MSU, Maryland, Rutgers
Purdue - Illinois, Indiana, Ohio St
Rutgers - Maryland, Northwestern, Penn St
Wisconsin - Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska
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shouldn't you figure out the pods first then assign the cross overs?
 
OlyDuck said:
shouldn't you figure out the pods first then assign the cross overs?
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There are no pods. Only annual match ups. As listed inside the spoiler, those would essentially be the individual "pods" if you wanted to look at them like that.
 
Blackshirts BLVD said:
There are no pods. Only annual match ups. As listed inside the spoiler, those would essentially be the individual "pods" if you wanted to look at them like that.
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They are getting 3 annual opponents so that’s a four team pod. You can call anything you want but it’s a pod.

If it looks like a pod, walks like a pod, talks like a pod then it’s a pod.
 
Wild Turkey said:
They are getting 3 annual opponents so that’s a four team pod. You can call anything you want but it’s a pod.

If it looks like a pod, walks like a pod, talks like a pod then it’s a pod.
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It's like you think I am the one not understanding. Nothing I said was incorrect or inaccurate.
 
Wild Turkey said:
They are getting 3 annual opponents so that’s a four team pod. You can call anything you want but it’s a pod.

If it looks like a pod, walks like a pod, talks like a pod then it’s a pod.
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FWIW, the nomenclature that has been used is that a "pod" is where there are 3 or 4 teams and they play each other in a round-robin format within the pod. The defining characteristic of the pod is that the 4 teams round robin one another. Where each team has 2 or 3 permanent rivals, I've seen that described as "permanent rivals." As used in this thread "annual matchups" was used. The distinguishing characteristic of this method is that there isn't a round-robin ... each team has a distinct group of 2 or 3.

Honestly, if you go with the pod methodology, calling them "divisions" would make just as much sense. The SEC could have a south, north, west and central. This would actually align more with pro sports.
 
i'm guessing its going to look similar to this:

BC: Syracuse, Pitt, Miami
Clemson: GT, FSU, Wake
Duke: UNC, Wake, NCSU
FSU: Miami, Clemson, Louisville
GT: Clemson, UVa, VT
Louisville: Louisville, Pitt, FSU
Miami: FSU, BC, VT
Pitt: Syracuse, BC, Louisville
Syracuse: BC, Pitt, Louisville
UNC: NCSU, Duke, UVa
NCSU: UNC, Wake, Duke
UVa: VT, UNC, GT
VT: UVa, Miami, GT
Wake: NCSU, Duke, Clemson

only ones I'm pretty confident in are Duke, UNC and NCSU. Louisville not having much history with the rest of the league makes things a little weird. Clemson/Wake playing each other every year would be weird, but not really sure who else makes sense. The long running series between UVa and UNC ruins the all North Carolina "pod". not sure how the league perceives the fake Louisville/Virginia rivalry. could also see the league scrapping NCSU/Duke and doing Clemson/NCSU instead.
 
Hitman Hart said:
i'm guessing its going to look similar to this:

BC: Syracuse, Pitt, Miami
Clemson: GT, FSU, Wake
Duke: UNC, Wake, NCSU
FSU: Miami, Clemson, Louisville
GT: Clemson, UVa, VT
Louisville: Louisville, Pitt, FSU
Miami: FSU, BC, VT
Pitt: Syracuse, BC, Louisville
Syracuse: BC, Pitt, Louisville
UNC: NCSU, Duke, UVa
NCSU: UNC, Wake, Duke
UVa: VT, UNC, GT
VT: UVa, Miami, GT
Wake: NCSU, Duke, Clemson

only ones I'm pretty confident in are Duke, UNC and NCSU. Louisville not having much history with the rest of the league makes things a little weird. Clemson/Wake playing each other every year would be weird, but not really sure who else makes sense. The long running series between UVa and UNC ruins the all North Carolina "pod". not sure how the league perceives the fake Louisville/Virginia rivalry. could also see the league scrapping NCSU/Duke and doing Clemson/NCSU instead.
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I would think you would want NCSU, UNC, Duke and Wake as "pod." Let UVa and UNC schedule each other for a NC game like Wake and someone did last year. That Tobacco Road pod would be hard to pass up on.
 
WhosYourDawggy said:
I would think you would want NCSU, UNC, Duke and Wake as "pod." Let UVa and UNC schedule each other for a NC game like Wake and someone did last year. That Tobacco Road pod would be hard to pass up on.
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i agree, but i doubt it happens
 
Hitman Hart said:
i'm guessing its going to look similar to this:

BC: Syracuse, Pitt, Miami
Clemson: GT, FSU, Wake
Duke: UNC, Wake, NCSU
FSU: Miami, Clemson, Louisville
GT: Clemson, UVa, VT
Louisville: Louisville, Pitt, FSU
Miami: FSU, BC, VT
Pitt: Syracuse, BC, Louisville
Syracuse: BC, Pitt, Louisville
UNC: NCSU, Duke, UVa
NCSU: UNC, Wake, Duke
UVa: VT, UNC, GT
VT: UVa, Miami, GT
Wake: NCSU, Duke, Clemson

only ones I'm pretty confident in are Duke, UNC and NCSU. Louisville not having much history with the rest of the league makes things a little weird. Clemson/Wake playing each other every year would be weird, but not really sure who else makes sense. The long running series between UVa and UNC ruins the all North Carolina "pod". not sure how the league perceives the fake Louisville/Virginia rivalry. could also see the league scrapping NCSU/Duke and doing Clemson/NCSU instead.
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NCSU/Clemson should be in the same pod.

I wish it was Clemson/FSU/NCSU/Wake. I have no interest in GT, but I'm sure they'll continue that.
 
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RubinRock said:
NCSU/Clemson should be in the same pod.

I wish it was Clemson/FSU/NCSU/Wake. I have no interest in GT, but I'm sure they'll continue that.
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issue with that pod is the ACC views UNC's primary football rival as NCSU. Same with Duke/Wake. That and the long running Clemson/GT series.
 
Hitman Hart said:
issue with that pod is the ACC views UNC's primary football rival as NCSU. Same with Duke/Wake. That and the long running Clemson/GT series.
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Oh I have very little hope that it will actually happen for the exact reasons you just stated. That would just be perfect for me.

Which means it'll probably be something stupid like Clemson, GT, Louisville, and Cuse. And every other year Clemson will get screwed with a Friday night game at Cuse and a Thursday nighter between either Ville or GT.
 
luckily Clemson and NC st would still play home and home games twice in 4 years..

This 3-3-5 or pod system is much better
 
Good, somebody finally breaking the seal on this. It makes the most sense once you get bigger than 12 member schools. You can actually preserve MORE rivalries this way, and teams get to play each other more frequently.
 
Thiefery said:
It's just the smart thing to do.. People want to see more matchups and for them to happen more frequently. Still boggles the mind how aggy and UGA have just played once in conference play all these years.
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Truth be told, there are probably some conference members that certain teams really don't care if they EVER play. I doubt A&M vs UGA was one of them, but................
 
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